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UAL SFO-Nagoya Load Factors?

Sfo212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 219 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

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Well the service has been in operation for a little over a month now. Anyone know how UA is doing with the flight and how full the flights are, with people and cargo.

Has the NGO-TPE leg started yet?

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StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

On a related note, how is the SFO-HKG-SGN flight doing also?

Legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1837 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

The NGO route started off very slow. The firt week of operations load factor was about 50% (not sure about cargo) Today, there was 225 inbound to SFO and out bound was 205. SFO -HKG is always running full. Not sure about the HKG-SNG

John@SFO

Centrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3597 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

When it comes to flying to japan, most people in the States go to Tokyo or Osaka as those are the Big cities. Nagoya is small but the through traffic is what makes it go. It has lower landing fees and better access to domestic routes than Tokyo or KIX.

The loads to SFO are higher due to the huge promotion by travel companies here for flights to the West coast. There are more pamphlets prmoting travel to places like PHX, LAS and DEN all through SFO. These appeal to the Japanese tourist.

When it comes to the TPE route, I feel it will do well. It will give competition to JO, CX and CI. I believe the flight is also codeshare with NH. NGO has become the favored airport for those flying from domestic airports like Sendai and Niigata. The connection is easier than NRT or KIX and cheaper.

I wonder how the AA route is doing. I have had two groups come through on AA and both say the flight seemed empty. Maybe AA needs to get a 5th freedom route out. Right now the flight lines up so people can fly on to TPE or HKG on CX and connects to the JL network nicely. AA is doing well to the states because of their connection to NYC. Also Chicago is a desintation within itself.

NW is still doing better through NGO. it is always packed. But sadly the numbers coming from Japan are low. Most is through traffic from MNL.

Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!

FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Another bit of info... UA has a great contract with Toyota out of NGO to connect them via SFO to AUS.

FA4UA

The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better

Uadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

In the last 3 days ua has shipped over 93k lbs of cargo between ngo and sfo.....thats not including the stuff that is loaded on in tpe.....also the ngo-tpe flt went out with 0 open seats in y on the 3rd .....i guess the tag on is working

bus driver.......move that bus:)

AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

FA4UA....Is this one of the reasons SFO-AUS went to a A319 vs. the CR7?

ASSFO

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"

Roots From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

I flew UA831 SFO - NGO on April 15th and NGO - SFO on April 24th. The outbound flight seemed light to me (the one FA I spoke to also said "it was very light today").

I was sitting in Economy+ and I took this shot:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSCN0979.jpg

There were probably only about 2 dozen in there.

The Economy section was more crowded, probably 70-80%. I don't know about up front.

The return flight looked about the same to me.

Sfo212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1392 times:

Did both of your flights have the crew rest bunks? Are they curtained off for the whole flight?

Nethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 985 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

I am going to fly NGO-SFO on the 7th May. I will let you guys know. The booking figure is about 50%.

Don't be annoyed knowing the passengers around you are non-revs and op-upgraders, be grateful for them. Life is beautifu

DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Is this flight operated on the 744 or 772? I'm having a bit of a brain fart over here...

Uadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

dlkapa,
777 on the route.............you missed a good day here last week....34 total amongst all of them

bus driver.......move that bus:)

DLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 11):
dlkapa,
777 on the route.............you missed a good day here last week....34 total amongst all of them

So I've heard... Unfortunately Aaron got written up for the last time we were down there.

Roots From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

Quoting Sfo212 (Reply 8):
Did both of your flights have the crew rest bunks? Are they curtained off for the whole flight?

Yes the crew rest area was curtained off for the duration of the whole flight (well by that I mean from the time we reached cruising altitude until we started descent).

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