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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

Good day folks. I don't always write on here very often but when I find a post that is interesting, I will hit it up. The future looks bright for aviation and those of us that are TRUE aviation enthusiasts. Yes I am from the United States but that does not mean that I have total loyalty everything American all the time. I do love all types of airplanes, some more than others. Although my username is that of a FedEx flight out of ONT, California because that is where I worked for the past 3 years, I now work for DHL. We operate an Astar 727 and an ABX Air 767. I spend every afternoon out at the 727, to hear that awesome sound every single day is truly an experience. The 727 is one of the best looking aircraft around. I like the design of the wing and the tail. Our other a/c on the other hand is not as interesting to look at. The 767 is a nice plane but I would much rather see an A330/340, DC/MD-10, MD-11, 747, or even an A380, YES an A380, that airplane is indescribable. I don't care how the politics of the industry affect the actual airplane itself. When I sit at the In-N-Out on Sepulveda near LAX, I don't look at that China Eastern A340-600 and say to myself wow that airplane sucks because it was built with subsidies from European countries, i just think that it is so cool to look at an airplane that massive and be in awe that something that weighs so much can become airborne. Yes I do believe that Airbus does receive subsidies from different European nations but to think that Boeing does not recieve anything from the U.S. government is to be totally naive. Both companies build great products, it is not as if Airbus or Boeing airplanes just fall out of the sky.

Last week I stayed up until 0130 local time, last wednesday to witness the first flight of the A380 on television, wish I could have been there but at least I will get the chance to see one at LAX sometime. I felt alot of pride as a human being to see that airplane take off, yes it is not the most attractive A/C around but that is ok because it has a look all its own. For those who wished that it would have failed last week are just a disgrace to people everywhere, no matter what nationality. How could you root for something bad to happen to the 380, the airplane itself has nothing to do with the politics that might have brought it about, it was merely an aircraft, begging so to speak, to take flight, it did and I am glad and excited for the folks at Airbus who brought her to life. Those are the same feelings I will have for Boeing when the 787 takes flight. I have no doubt it too will be just as successful on its first flight as the 380.

I know some of you will read this and think I am full of crap and some of you might not. Some might think that I know nothing about what I am stating. To let you in on a little secret, I am 24 years old and have been working with a/c since I was 4 years old, no joke. I used to work the Emery 727's and DC-8's at ONT with my dad. My uncle is also a captain for Delta, flying and airplanes are not just a hobby with me, they are my life. I grew up with them, I have worked on nearly every aircraft around from Boeing to MCD to Lockheed, Convair, Canadair and Airbus. To me, an Airplane is an Airplane, I don't care what country they are made in, they all have my respect and I would love to fly anyone of them.

I apologize if I have bored anyone here but this is just something I had to say.

Climb and Maintain flight level 280, DHL 200, good day

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User currently offlineAirboeing From France, joined Apr 2005, 223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

Believe me, when you'll see it in real at LAX, you'll find it a bit less ugly... Especially with the appropriate livery...

Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
Those are the same feelings I will have for Boeing when the 787 takes flight. I have no doubt it too will be just as successful on its first flight as the 380

So do I.. And I'm looking forward to see it happening...



Some times my English is purely fonatiks...
User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 827 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5087 times:

Awesome post!!!

I stood up till 4:30am EST just to see the A380 takeoff and when I have a kid one day there will be 2 things I can say that I've seen.

1. 9/11
2. A380 takeoff


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2759 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5053 times:

FX1816... May I just congratulate you on what must be the most sensible post on Boeing/Airbus and aviation in general for a long time on these internet forums. If only more people could share your outlook. If you don't mind, I am going to add you as the first person on my list of respected users.

Well done!



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

FX1816,

You deserved to be the first user to be added to my respected list (not a big honor, I know  Wink ).

Great post indeed, thanks!



If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6939 posts, RR: 63
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5036 times:

Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
I apologize if I have bored anyone here but this is just something I had to say.

Don't apologise for your post. We're all meant be be enthusiasts on this site and you're enthusiastic. Good on you!


User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

It is nice to see that some people agree with me. Lets leave the childish behavior behind us and enjoy aviation for what it is. Thank you

Contact Ground on 121.9,
121.9 for DHL 200


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4999 times:

Yes!!! i really like youre post man!!! and it does A.net good, especially since youre american... it raises the American RR rating in general  Wink

just like you, im also a dual Airbus/boeing lover, so its really great to see someone posting such an good topic


RR for you....


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

Very well posted Ryan.My views are very similiar.
A very sensible post after a long time.
Congrats.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineGlidepath73 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 1020 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4964 times:

Hey Ryan,

it was very nice to read your post. I agree fully with you. Amazing what do you have experienced already in the aviation. Really nice! Would have loved to do stuff as you did.
I love even both- Airbus and Boeing. Lets hope those good company's will always go on to produce amazing aircrafts for the world airtraffic.

Regards,
Patrick



Aviation! That rocks...
User currently offlineAMSSpotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

I started today's lunch reading your post and the start couldn't have been better. Like fellow-A.netters stated before me: not boring at all (on the contrary) and unbiased.

Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
I felt alot of pride as a human being to see that airplane (A380) take off

Spcecially liked that one! Like you said very well: big events such as these are world-achievements. They show what human beings are capable of. Just like Inca-temples, Pyramids, mega-structures like Golden Gate, the Millau viaduct, etc., etc...


User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 878 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

Hey, great post.....really positive message that sums up how many of us feel, despite the fact that those who berate either boeing or airbus seem to take of a.net sometimes. About to head to work at LHR and this is a great way to start.

Cheers and welcome to my respected users list.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9903 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

WOW, very nice post FX1816. Can't agree more on how you put it. An aircraft is an aircraft, doesn't matter who manufactures it. Like AMSSpotter said, this post is 'not boring at all (on the contrary) and unbiased'. Very well said my friend. I have added you to my respected users list.

A388


User currently offlineJumpJet From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

FX1816, very well said! An excellent post that makes such a refreshing change from the plethora of xenophobic rantings that bounce back and forth across the Atlantic... Well done and many thanks for putting it far better than I could have done!

User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 660 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4690 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Congratulations, you have the clearest and cleanest concept of aviation; you are a real enthusiast on the matter.

It does not matter whether you are a strict Airbus or Boeing fan, it matters that you have a feel and wonder for all the awe inspiring aspects of aviation from around the world without prejudice.

Best regards:
AV757


User currently offlineJamesvf84 From Switzerland, joined Sep 2003, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

FX1816.................................I am lost for words!  Wink and seeing as Jumpjet took the only remaining words I had left out of my mouth  Smile I can only say:

Have a nice one!  Smile


User currently offlineTravisKensil From United States of America, joined May 2005, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

FX1816...AWESOME, your a true asset to this community!

Sounds like a great job, getting to work on the 727 and the 767 everyday...if you don't mind me asking, what is your job? Mechanic, baggage guy, fueler?


User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4602 times:

And I was about to ignore the thread as another A V B starter.

Well said.



Knowledge Replaces Fear
User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4503 times:

TravisKensil From United States, joined May 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted Wed May 4 2005 16:45:32 UTC+2 and read 146 times:

Sounds like a great job, getting to work on the 727 and the 767 everyday...if you don't mind me asking, what is your job? Mechanic, baggage guy, fueler?

Actually I am a Manager with DHL so I go to the 727 and I coordinate the load plan with our hub in CVG.

I did however use to work the bellies throwing bags and freight. I was a supervisor at FedEx for 2 years and so I mainly made sure the job was done right.


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

Great post, I like to see this once in a while. I also love all aircraft including Airbus, Boeing and Embraer...
I thought it was going to be AvB but I was wrong!
Thanks FX1816!


User currently offlineN60659 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

FX1816, great post. I have followed this forum for some time, and whenever Airbus and Boeing appear on the same line (anywhere in any of the posts), there is usually an acrimonious exchange that ensues. I am so glad to see a post that highlights how true aviation enthusiasts should view aviation. Good job!! I hope we can see more of these with more constructive dialog and less flames and fire.

-N60659



Nec Dextrorsum Nec Sinistrorsum
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Very positive message although I don't agree with the fact that you assumed people wanted the a380 to fail. I don't think anyone wants a plane to fail.

By the way, I like to go to that In-n-Out just so I can see that China Eastern flight. This might be odd but I am always amazed at how smaller that a346 looks in real life than on the pictures.


User currently offlineKLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 697 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

Thank you for a great post. Finally, an example of how most of us here feel toward aviation. you are the first person on my respected list  Smile

Have a great day,
Billy.


User currently offlineAGrayson514 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

Quoting FX1816 (Thread starter):
Airplane is an Airplane, I don't care what country they are made in, they all have my respect and I would love to fly anyone of them.

There was something even poetic about that post, thank you so much for voicing something I think many of us feel but never say.

~ Andrew



Give a little bit...
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

I tend to think all major airplane manufacturers take hand-outs from their governments, directly or indirectly.

25 FX1816 : my point exactly. Airbus and Boeing would probably not survive without a little help from the gov.
26 Post contains images NorCal : Gotta love those double doubles Yep I agree, the 727 is a magnificent a/c and I too have the opportunity to see one nearly every single day. No apolo
27 FX1816 : NORCAL, what do you do that you get to see a 727?
28 Post contains links and images NorCal : Purdue has a 737 and a 727. A couple of our classes use these planes as static trainers. We also have 2 727 simulators and we are expecting on gettin
29 FX1816 : That sounds cool....are you going for your A&P????
30 JMJAirways : Just great ! There are still good persons in this crule world!
31 TravisKensil : Sweet...sounds like a fun job!
32 Mikefly562 : Wow...what a great post. Even though I work for Boeing (On the C-17 program), I was very excited about the A380's first flight. I believe fierce compe
33 Post contains images Zeekiel : Much respect to you FX1816. If only there were more people like you, the world would be a better place . No seriously, there are quite a few people on
34 DLKAPA : Or maybe reconsider their aviation hobby in the first place.
35 Post contains images Collyw : I agree with Fx1816 whole heartedly-planes are great doesn't matter what they are Airbus,Boeing,Lockheed,MD,etc whether they are GE,PW or RR powered
36 Freedom4all : Well said...great post!!, I'm a big Boeing fan, but seeing the A380 fly was great, its just another step in modern flight, it doesn't matter who built
37 Post contains images B767400ER : Agree with everyone above me. Great post. Nuff said.
38 Douglas7seas : Hey FX1816, Great Post!! I grew up with the latter Douglas propliners, the Viscounts, Vanguard, Brittanias, Convairs, and Lockheeds. I loved them all,
39 Post contains images Jacobin777 : hey..I live a few blocks away from it on a more serious note....I agree with the first post......actually, even though I bash The Leviathan in cerata
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