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EuroAirport After Switzerland Joins Schengen  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11151 posts, RR: 59
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2933 times:

Does anyone know if preparations are being made to have one set of passport control in Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg EuroAirport once Switzerland joins Schengen in the near future?

As many of you probably know, EuroAirport is located in France near the border with Germany and Switzerland and is operated by two countries, France and Switzerland. Half of the terminal is operated by French authorities and has French passport control and customs for those who are destined to France and Germany, while the other half of the terminal is operated by Swiss authorities and has Swiss passport control and customs for those who are destined to Switzerland. A special customs-free road connecting Basel, Switzerland with the airport exists to avoid having to go through French customs after crossing into France.

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Geneva Cointrin is also in a similar having a French customs area for those destined to France, but I believe it only applies for Air France flight.

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Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


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User currently offlineAhlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1339 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

At Geneve Cointrin the French area is for all flights destined to France, be it with AF, LX, or U2.

I do wonder what kinds of changes they will make, as Schengen only applies to passport control, but not customs, which means that they cannot combine the two areas given differences in customs regulations. Sort of makes the whole thing pointless from an ease-of-travel point of view, as the borders (including land borders) will still have to be manned by customs agents.


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

Wow, I did not know Switzerland was about to join Schengen!!

I have flown between Schengen countries and did not have to clear customs, since you arrive at terminals used for both, domestic and Schengen flights. Example CDG-BCN...

For BSL, I guess the airport will open gates for domestic and Schengen flights, which does not require to clear both, immigration and customs (just like AF gates for their domestic flights in the French side). It will be interesting to see the Charter flights, since most of them have their check in counters in the French side, specially the ones flying between Schengen countries.

I will miss the experience of arriving at BSL. The best part is when you are in the Swiss side and you need to clear immigration and customs twice just to get Euros from the ATM machine (Credit Mutuel)


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

There's a voting about joining or not joining Schengen soon! It is expected that people will vote for joining Schengen but I think nothing will change at the airport. They need the staff anyway to control the people arriving from non-Schengen countries so I think it will stay like it is today.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5565 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 3):
There's a voting about joining or not joining Schengen soon! It is expected that people will vote for joining Schengen but I think nothing will change at the airport. They need the staff anyway to control the people arriving from non-Schengen countries so I think it will stay like it is today.

When we join Schengen there will change a few things at the airports. The passengers to and from the Schengen countries are treated else, they won't have passport controls. The airports HAVE to separate the Schengen and non Schengen flights. This is one of the regulations of the Schengen treaty. After the latest construction works Zurich is prepared for it.

[Edited 2005-05-07 16:17:25]

User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Thanks for the information ZRH. It will be interesting to see what happens here at EAP. At the moment I don't have a clue how they want to seperate Schengen and non-Schengen passengers here as the facilities are too small. Maybe they have plans to rebuild the passport control and custom facilities here. With the passenger numbers raising quickly they should do that anyway.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Quoting BA (Thread starter):
Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg EuroAirport

It's only Basel-Mulhouse, isn't it ?


User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3769 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Quoting Sebolino (Reply 6):
It's only Basel-Mulhouse, isn't it ?

Actually no, it is Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg. I live in Freiburg, please don't take my airport away from me!  Smile

Booking flights is a mess: You get three different prices by using the airport's three (!) different codes!

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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3292 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2444 times:
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May sound naïve based on where I am from, but what exactly is Schengen? I have heard of it many times but never knew exactly what it is. Thanks.

TIS

P.S. I think GVA is one of the best airports around, if only because it is so easy to get to and get around in.



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User currently offlineJouy31 From France, joined May 2003, 447 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Well, Schengen is a treaty between a number of countries (13 countries, and 2 associated countries) which has created a zone where you can travel from member country to member country (ie going from Paris to Madrid) without being submitted systematically to immigration controls. Its coverage is not the same as the EU, as some EU countries such as the UK are not part of the Schengen agreement, while a non-EU country such as Norway cooperates with the Schengen treaty countries.

So, from a traveller's point of view, you have the three following areas :
1/ Schengen, focused on external immigration controls :
- Austria
- Belgium
- Denmark
- Finland
- France
- Germany
- Greece
- Italy
- Luxembourg
- Netherlands
- Portugal
- Spain
- Sweden
with Norway and Iceland being two associated countries
2/ the EU, with its 25 member countries, with a focus on customs control
3/ the EEA (European Economic Area), which, in addition to the EU countries, includes,
- Iceland
- Liechtenstein
- Norway
and having a passport from these countries or Switzerland (which did not ratify the EEA treaty but now has a number of bilateral agreements with the EU) usually determines that you do not need a landing card when arriving in the Schengen area or an EU country which does not belong to the Schengen area, and that you have access to somewhat faster immigration lanes.

[Edited 2005-05-07 20:25:12]

User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Hi guys

I think the official name of the airport is Basel-Mulhouse, based on a contract between Switzerland and France.

The airport calls itself EuroAirport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg because of its location in the heart of the "TriRhena-Region" with the agglomerations of Basel (Switzerland), Mulhouse (France) and Freiburg (Germany).

At the moment, Germany is thinking of taking a stake in the airport as the airport is becoming more and more important for the region. So if they join the contract with Switzerland and France then the airport will be renamed into Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg.

I recommend you just to speak about "EAP" like the locals here  

Regards,
RJ100

P.S.: I think Schengen is a small town in Luxembourg, probably the town where the contracts were signed.

[Edited 2005-05-07 21:03:22]


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5565 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 5):
At the moment I don't have a clue how they want to separate Schengen and non-Schengen passengers

Me too. I don't have a clue how they will separate it here in Zurich. Now you have two passport control positiones on two different floors in each of the two terminals. At the moment it does not matter which of the four you take.
Perhaps with Schengen the upper level will be for Schengen flights and the lower for the others (or the other way round). But I can not imagine how it works after that, in the Airside Center (I think all passengers should be able to use the entire Airside Center). I only read somewhere that with the end of new construction works Zurich would be prepared for Schengen. I am really wondering how it will work. Perhaps anybody knows it here, "Unique"?

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 10):
I think Schengen is a small town in Luxembourg, probably the town where the contracts were signed.

Yes you are right. Schengen is in Luxembourg. The treaty was signed there.


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

I was wrong in my earlier post.

The airport was called Basel-Mulhouse until 1987 when they renamed it into Euroairport Basel-Mulhouse-Freiburg. This is a registered name.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3224 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Jouy31, about Schengen, Norway and Iceland are full members. The Scandinavian countries have long had a customs union amongst themselves and while they all signed the Schengen agreement they did not immediately adopt it because of their pre-existing arrangements, along with the fact that Norway and Iceland were - and still are - outside the EU. Nonetheless Sweden, Denmark and Finland adopted the full tennets of the agreement in 1999 and became full Schengen members while Norway and Iceland were made associate members at that time. After 2 years, in 2001, it was decided that Norway and Iceland fully satisfied Schengen requirements and thus they became full members.

I did not know Switzerland was in the process of joining Schengen, its entry requirements have generally been rather different from those of the Schengen area. Oh well, things are changing now. It would then just be the UK and Ireland outside the group - the new EU countries are obliged to join once they set up the necessary structures.

TrintoCan.



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