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How About UA Restarting Flights To India?  
User currently offlineJoyA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 530 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3710 times:

NW is there with daily flights to BOM and is about to introduce new services to BLR....I suppose. DL is there too but UA is not even in the vicinity. Why is it so, for the largest US international airline?? There used to be flights from DEL operated by UA in the past. With steady increase in the no of PAX between US-IND, UA needs to restart flights to India once again.
These route options are my choices:-
DEL-NRT-LAX
DEL-LHR-IAD
DEL-LHR-ORD
BOM-HKG-SFO
Whats your opinion on this thread??  scratchchin 
Regards
JOY


If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

YES!!! Why don't we serve India again!?! It kills me that we never started that nonstop they were talking about back in 2001 (ORD-DEL)! Now CO has announced EWR-DEL, but where is UA? Isn't America the number one location for Indian Ex-pats? Additionally our economies become more intertwined everyday!

I could imagine UA corporate saying that our resources are better used on more profitable routes presently and that with our code share agreement with SQ and LH, we actually do have plenty of service to the sub-continent from the East Coast and the West Coast.

Here's hoping for someday! There's always rumors floating around both inside UA and outside about starting service there again. Just recently I heard from friends at LHR about LHR-BOM service starting. But they are just rumors.

FA4UA



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33054 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Quoting FA4UA (Reply 1):
It kills me that we never started that nonstop they were talking about back in 2001 (ORD-DEL)!

It wasn't just talked about. The flight was announced and put up for sale.

Quoting FA4UA (Reply 1):
Isn't America the number one location for Indian Ex-pats?

Maybe in total numbers, I am not sure, but London and Toronto have the largest Indian ex-pat communities as a whole, IIRC.



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User currently offlineTsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 629 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

UA was serving India w/ the "round the world flt" that they resurrected from Pan Am..flt 1 JFK/LHR/DEL/HKG/LAX...flt2 JFK/LAX/HKG/DEL/LHR...I think they cut the flt after 9/11...I'm sure they must still have authority that they inherited from PA...

User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Maybe in total numbers, I am not sure, but London and Toronto have the largest Indian ex-pat communities as a whole, IIRC

Are you sure? OK, with the suburbs this might be true, but afaik there are places in Africa with a larger population.. OK, it epends on the definition of expats: UK and US Indians have migrated more recently than "Afrcan Indians"


User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1811 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
I am not sure, but London and Toronto have the largest Indian ex-pat communities as a whole, IIRC.

Nowhere near Singapore, Mauritius or Dubai.



Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineWhlinder From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

UA and SQ do not codeshare. They are Star partners, but do not have a codeshare together.

User currently offlineLHRCS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

Hiya FA4UA,

I,v heard that one about us going back to India via LHR. At the moment that's all it seems to be just a rumor, but I believe we are going to be code sharing with JET Airways when they start flying LHR - BOM later this month.

Now seeing as the UK and India have doubled their air services agreement to 84 flights a week and the USA / India have an open skies agreement in place now. It can only be a matter of time till we do go back. Hopefully we will get some of the action through LHR.

Yep I can hear the cabin baggage arguments already.


User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 5):
Nowhere near Singapore, Mauritius or Dubai.

The communities in Singapore and Dubai are much more transient however- many go abroad for 3-5 year and work, make money and return to India. The communities in the UK, USA, and Canada rarely if ever move back to India.


User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

Here is what I hear:
Since United and Lufthansa are partners, they have a gentlemens agreement. United is allowed to cover mostly Asia, while Lufthansa covers India for American pax. This way they have less competition, and can work together on these routes.


User currently offlineJoyA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

So is JET really going into Aliiances with UA-LH??


If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

The US-India routes that have been considered recently at UA are ORD-DEL and SFO-BLR.

User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3262 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 9):
Since United and Lufthansa are partners, they have a gentlemens agreement. United is allowed to cover mostly Asia, while Lufthansa covers India for American pax. This way they have less competition, and can work together on these routes.

If this is true, it's truly sad for the average commuter! LH & UA need to wake up and realize that other airlines (that are expanding) will get all the traffic, while LH/UA will loose gaining any of the growth in the market. Stupid! Stupid!! Stupid!!!

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 11):
The US-India routes that have been considered recently at UA are ORD-DEL and SFO-BLR.

SFO-BLR non-stop would be my dream route  cloudnine 



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 12):
Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 9):
Since United and Lufthansa are partners, they have a gentlemens agreement. United is allowed to cover mostly Asia, while Lufthansa covers India for American pax. This way they have less competition, and can work together on these routes.

If this is true, it's truly sad for the average commuter! LH & UA need to wake up and realize that other airlines (that are expanding) will get all the traffic, while LH/UA will loose gaining any of the growth in the market. Stupid! Stupid!! Stupid!!!

As LH's presense in Asia is big enuff, i don't believe this to be true. UA won't be that stupid to surrender the potential to LH, regardless of their partnership (or they are that stupid, seeing that they are almost bancrupt  Yeah sure )


User currently offlineBAW716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2028 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

UA does not have an aircraft that could do SFO-BLR nonstop. Great Circle route is 8717 miles. However, ORD-DEL is doable at 7414 miles, with a routing NE over Greenland, proceeding over 85N and then straight down over Siberia and Nepal into India. Flight would have to be done with the -400, because it would be just outside the ETOPS180 range...just. Its real close. If UA wanted to do DEL from SFO, they could probably make it, but BLR is just too far south.

baw716



David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3333 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 12):
SFO-BLR non-stop would be my dream route

It's a VERY long way! wouldn't it make sense to offer ORD-DEL or or ORD-SFO, perhaps operating with the same flight number and a change of aircraft at ORD. This would provide feed some other parts of the US as well.


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