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YVR Strikes A GOL?  
User currently offlineJpyvr From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 124 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Driving past the Air Canada main hangar at YVR yesterday, in addition to the usual AC aircraft and a CX 744 (in the hangar itself, a maintenance problem?), there was a 737NG wearing GOL livery. I know that GOL's rapidly expanding, but I'm wondering how one of theirs got so far from home! Anybody know what the plane was doing in YVR?

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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Isn't YVR near the B737NG factory?
My guess is that the GOL plane is a brand new and had something to be fixed before flying to Brazil.
GOL may be doing charters, But a Brazil - YVR charter on a B737NG?!



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

You're sure it was a 73G and not a 732?
AFAIK at least one of Zip's ex-732s was to be operating for GOL.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 483 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Kaz, it was definitely a 737NG with winglets.

Perhaps AC installed the winglets?


User currently offlineRG828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2576 times:
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Around here there is a rumour saying GOL is to receive either an ex-Aloha or ex-Alaska 73G with winglets.

I remember AC doing some work for Aloha in their North hangar, so maybe thats a clue.

For the record, GOL operates 73Gs, 738s and 733 classics, no 737-200s.



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User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 483 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

RG828, ex-Aloha makes a lot of sense.

User currently offlineJpyvr From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Thanks for the info....I agree with Allee that RG828's supposition makes the most sense

User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

I saw the GOL 737NG on Wednesday too, in Air Canada's hangar and wondered why it was there. I assumed Air Canada was doing third party maintenance on it.
There was an all white 757 at YVR on Wednesday, it departed at about 10:30. Does anyone know who it belongs to?



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9623 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2310 times:
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an ex-ATA 738.

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting Boeing764 (Reply 7):
There was an all white 757 at YVR on Wednesday, it departed at about 10:30. Does anyone know who it belongs to?

If it's the one I saw at YOW last week with no markings and no legible US reg, then it belongs to the US military.


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 8):
an ex-ATA 738.

Which one?



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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2196 times:


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I think Cathay's 747 was a freighter ! Both aircraft had winglets.


User currently offlineBoeing764 From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days ago) and read 2057 times:

There is a Cathay 747 in Air Canada's south hangar today, May 18. Anybody know what's up with that?


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User currently offlineRG828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2016 times:
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The GOL 73G apparently left YVR last Saturday to Belo Horizonte in Brazil, via Aruba. Aircraft is now registered PR-GID.

Aircraft seems to be ex-Aloha N745AL.


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User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 1):
GOL may be doing charters, But a Brazil - YVR charter on a B737NG?!

LOL, no they´r not.

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 2):
AFAIK at least one of Zip's ex-732s was to be operating for GOL.

Sorry to say, but U´r way wrong, they have 3 733 that will be returned as soon the 737G comes.

Quoting RG828 (Reply 13):
Aircraft seems to be ex-Aloha N745AL.

why would they get used ac´s?? they just ordered a lot of brand new ones.

Maybe a short term lease to do GRU-EZE, they´re getting good on that route.



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User currently offlineEMBTucano From Brazil, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

I also heard from a GOL's captain that they are getting 5 73NG in the next few months. But i am not sure if they would be all brand new.

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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

Quoting RG828 (Reply 13):
The GOL 73G apparently left YVR last Saturday to Belo Horizonte in Brazil, via Aruba. Aircraft is now registered PR-GID.

Aircraft seems to be ex-Aloha N745AL.

And note that the a/c has winglets...all recent additions of GOL have winglets, which means that GOL is planning to fly further away! [wouldnt be surprise to see a route such as MAO-MIA!].


User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 16):
[wouldnt be surprise to see a route such as MAO-MIA!].

Easy tiger, think they have better places to fly within south-america first.

Wouldn´t be bad at all to see MAO-MIA, specially for cargo.



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User currently offlineRG828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1699 times:
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Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 16):
And note that the a/c has winglets...all recent additions of GOL have winglets, which means that GOL is planning to fly further away! [wouldnt be surprise to see a route such as MAO-MIA!].

Thats not really clear, I'm hearing mixed observations about winglets in their fleet. Once they started receiving their 73Gs they considered winglets as unecessary to their needs.
The only reason they have WL-equipped now aircraft is obviously because the only ones readily available where those returned by ATA and tha Aloha bird. The ATA 738's even have HUDs, but I'm not sure if GOL uses them though.

What I've heard is that as soon as they begin receiving their new fleet directly form Boeing, most - if not all - of their current fleet will be let go, and that these new-builds wont have winglets installed.

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 14):

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 2):
AFAIK at least one of Zip's ex-732s was to be operating for GOL.

Sorry to say, but U´r way wrong, they have 3 733 that will be returned as soon the 737G comes.

I've even heard the contrary; that they are receiving 5 more classics, and plan on keeping all of them for several years.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

RG828 tks forthe interesting info.

Quoting RG828 (Reply 18):
The ATA 738's even have HUDs

Sorry for the ignorance, but could anyone explain the meaning of HUDs?

Rgs,


User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

Quoting RG828 (Reply 18):
I've even heard the contrary; that they are receiving 5 more classics, and plan on keeping all of them for several years.

man, if this is true, doesn´t make anysense.
Why have 732 if U have a fleet plan of 737G 737NG only?! the 737-300´s are here to help while the NG´s don´t arrive, they will return it next year, if I´m not wrong.

Also, why take Zip´s 732 if VP 732 are all parked in Brazil??they must be real cheap I think.

hardy, HUD isn´t the short for Help Unit Display??? think I´ve seen it somewhere.



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User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Quoting RG828 (Reply 18):
I've even heard the contrary; that they are receiving 5 more classics, and plan on keeping all of them for several years.

man, if this is true, doesn´t make anysense.
Why have 732 if U have a fleet plan of 737G 737NG only?! the 737-300´s are here to help while the NG´s don´t arrive, they will return it next year, if I´m not wrong.

Also, why take Zip´s 732 if VP 732 are all parked in Brazil??they must be real cheap I think.

hardy, HUD isn´t the short for Help Unit Display??? think I´ve seen it somewhere.



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User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

HUD = Heads Up Display
Its a screen similar to a sunscreen that acts similar to an LCD display for the primary flight instruments. A little piece of fighter jet technology filtering down to the civil market. Do a search in the photo database and I'm sure you'll come across a photo or 2.  
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User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1643 times:

Hardi, found it man, sorry.
Translated from Jetsite, if U can read in Portugues check here:
http://www.jetsite.com.br/2004/busca_terminologia.asp?termo=todos

HUD:
Head-up display, mirrors system that projects vital data of the aircraft to the front windsheild so the pilot can fly looking up (head-UP).

hope that helps, from what I understand is this.


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User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

AvroArrow, U beat me to it in about 5 min  bigthumbsup 


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25 Post contains links and images RG828 : Hi Erikwilliam, I think you're confusing the "classics." "Classic 737s" are of the -300 variety. For some reason the title was not given to the older
26 Hardiwv : Erik and AvroArrow: Tks for all the explanations on HUDs! RG828: Awesome photos of GOL's B73G with winglets and HUDs! Rgs,
27 Erikwilliam : Yes I did, thx for the correction. Awesome pic of GOL`S NG. Did U see how tall the winglet is?!Amazing.... HArdi, U´r welcome.
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