AirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1410 posts, RR: 27 Posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2627 times:
Question for those in the know at GTAA.
I noticed that the "hammerhead" portion of the new Pier F (currently under construction) appears to have six (6) double height gate structures.
I am going to assume that they are for handling the 380, but doesn't the number seem a bit excessive when airports like LHR will have only 4?
Other than EK and BA (if they order them) I can't fathom anyone else bringing in a 380 into YYZ.
Mind you I would love to see 6 380s at Pearson!
EnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 820 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2525 times:
It is a new terminal which will be around for at least 50 years. Who knows what will be needed? They probably would have only created one or two gates if they had been simply upgrading an existing terminal to handle the A380.
IMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
And don't forget that double bridges can be very handy for speeding up boarding on other widebodies, like the 747 or even 777, assuming that these bridges are of the same kind that we have in AMS, where the higher one is over the wing and can attach to a rear door..
IMatAMS From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2316 times:
So two bridges straight on top of each other... That WOULD be a 380-only config...Although I presume that, if there's not enough 380 demand, they'll be able to use them on other types, not using the upper bridge, right? Otherwise it'll be a massive waste of capacity for years to come..
YOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 5): At least the GTAA isn't thinking along the same lines that the Gov't did back in the 50's when they built T1-old. IT was almost out-dated the day it opened hahaha.
The feds did that to pretty much every terminal they built (except maybe YYZ's T2), until they got out of the aiport biz in the 90s.
I would hope the GTAA is not wasting more money for the second bridge on these 6 gates so that they're solely A380-compatible. You would have to think the upper-level bridge can be lowered enough to reach the L1 or L2 door on other single-level widebodies, or at the very least the upper deck door of a 747.
Olympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2076 times:
I was going to suggest the same thing - only the other way round. Arrivals on the lower level, departures on the upper. At least that's the way it is when you first arrive at terminal 1 - either to fly somewhere or to meet someone arriving by plane.
EnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 820 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
The roadway levels do not match the post-screening (pier) levels. On the roadways the upper level is departures, the middle level is arrivals, and the lower level is ground transportation. In the piers (beyond security) the levels flip and the middle level is the departure lounges, the upper level is arrivals, and the lower level that isn't accessible to the public is for baggage and such.
CanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1985 times:
I walked around T1 a few weeks ago.
First impression: WOW. What a big terminal! I got the same feeling that a lot of poeple have expressed, however, and that being that it felt very sterile. There is no need for such an open check-in area, it felt way too big.
EnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 820 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 1979 times:
It is hard to judge whether or not the scale of the check-in area is waranted yet because it is only being used for something like a third of its intended capacity. Once Pier F and Pier G are connected to the check-in area it might be a little more crowded. It could use more colour though... perhaps they should hang something colourful over the check-in area to liven things up. Even hanging the flags of the world in there would really liven it up. I would imagine that the main hall (post screening) in AA's Chicago terminal would look fairly sterile too if they didn't have the flags or other decorations in there.
JAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3398 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
YUL's aeroquay is very old (my dad flew out of there in the 70s on DC8s) and the jetways there now have about 5-6 steps which you must climb to get in/out of the jetway itself. I assume this was because those gates were meant for lower planes of the 70s/80s and now the planes are higher meaning the original jetways would not be able to accomedate them.
Supported the beer and soda can industry, recycle old airplanes!