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AC Jazz CRJ-705  
User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5151 times:

I just saw an Air Canada Jazz CRJ-705 land in YQM (Moncton, NB). Does anyone know when they entered service? Or the routes they are deployed on. This must be one of the first ones in the fleet.


Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
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User currently offlineACYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5036 times:

They're not actually supposed to start service until sometime in June. Perhaps its a delivery flight to AC and they're gonna spend the next month on test flights? Who knows.

User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4974 times:

Actually, I just checked the press release on AC Jazz's site (www.flyjazz.com) and it says that the CRJ-705 would be put into service in May. I also saw on another website that C-GJAZ and C-FBJZ, both CRJ-705s, were slated for delivery in May 2005. So I take it that they've been delivered and are being used on select flights. Basically, I've answered my initial question!  Wink Any more information, however, would be appreciated.


Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

From yyznews:

Jazz Air are expecting to take delivery of the first two CRJ-705s in late May and initial plans (subject to change) are to utilize them from Calgary to Vancouver and Calgary to Houston routes.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

Any pics? The CRJ-705 is the same size as the CRJ-900, isn't it?

User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4898 times:

It is indeed - it's effectively just a CRJ900 with a lower-density (ie. two-class) layout.

Rich


User currently offlineRadialman From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

The winglets are also a little different.They are more spreadout,adding another 5.8 ft to the wing spam and also swept back a bit more.The cabin will have around 34 in seat pitch.Its a whole new adventure for Jazz.

User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1119 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4798 times:

Why is AC introducing new CRJ200's into its MAINLINE fleet [along with the new E175s and E190s]? I know AC's existing CRJs are being transferred to Jazz, but AC has [apparently] ordered 50 new CRJ200's for its mainline fleet.

User currently offlineAC7E7 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 666 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4767 times:

Quoting Pdpsol (Reply 7):
but AC has [apparently] ordered 50 new CRJ200's for its mainline fleet.

AC did not order 50 more CRJ-200s. All mainline CRJ-100s are being transfered to Jazz. Jazz has ordered CRJ-200s on its own. Jazz is expecting 15 CRJ-705s and I believe 15 more CRJ-200s.

AC is receiving the Embraers.


User currently offlineAC787 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4557 times:

All of these new CRJ-705's will have PTV's right?

User currently offlineRadialman From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

not right away.They will get PTV`s at a later stage.

User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2223 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4451 times:
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Does the CRJ705 have full hot galleys as well so they can offer full meals and drinks services or will in-flight service be pretzels only?


Come, fly the prevailing winds with me
User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4325 times:

For those who care, AC now has the CRJ705 on its fleet page, including a seat map. EMB175 is also posted

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/crj705.html

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/embraer-175.html


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2223 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4283 times:
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ChrisA330: thanx for the tip - had to have a browse.

And I wonder: BBD list the CRJ705 as having a range of 3,700 kms but AC list the range as 2,400 kms - why???

Also, the CRJ705 only have 2 overwing exits according to the seatmap (instead of 4). At how many pax/seat numbers must they install the other 2?

The CRJ705 and EMB175 are virtually identical in seat # and range - how can that be economical, sans the CF34-8C/8E engines?



Come, fly the prevailing winds with me
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4249 times:

I still cannot get over the operational lunacy of an airline ordering both 75-seat CRJ-705's for its commuter wing and 73-seat ERJ-175's for the mainline. It's operationally inefficient. No financials will ever justify this nonsense.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1119 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4241 times:

Quoting AC7E7 (Reply 8):
All mainline CRJ-100s are being transfered to Jazz. Jazz has ordered CRJ-200s on its own. Jazz is expecting 15 CRJ-705s and I believe 15 more CRJ-200s.

While the new AC Jazz CRJ200s only number 15, is AC's plan to eventually replace all its CRJ100s [including all the transferred AC examples] with newly-ordered CRJ200s??

So, AC Jazz will eventually [I suppose] fly an all CRJ fleet once [or if] the DHC-8-100 and DHC-8-300 examples are phased out? Of course, the five B1900Ds may continue their "puddle-jumper" status!


User currently offlineCO737800 From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

I hope that before they put the PTV's on the CRJ 700 they put them on the A320 and A319s

User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

Finally some other company is flying the crj900.

User currently offlineAC7E7 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 666 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 14):
I still cannot get over the operational lunacy of an airline ordering both 75-seat CRJ-705's for its commuter wing and 73-seat ERJ-175's for the mainline. It's operationally inefficient. No financials will ever justify this nonsense.

Jazz is a separate company from Air Canada. The CRJs are cheaper to fly than the Embraer 175s. Jazz will be able to utilize these jets on the smaller routes while AC will have the the 175s for flights like YUL-LGA. They will offer more comfortable seating. AC already ordered the 190 and they felt they needed a 75 seater in their mainline that would offer big-jet comfort for the passenger while offering the airline great fuel efficiency as well as commonality with its 190s.

Quoting Pdpsol (Reply 15):
While the new AC Jazz CRJ200s only number 15, is AC's plan to eventually replace all its CRJ100s [including all the transferred AC examples] with newly-ordered CRJ200s??

AC is nor replacing its -100s with -200s. They are simply transfering their CRJs (which happen to be 100 series) to Jazz (who happen to have the -200 series). AC will operate the new Embraer 175/190s while Jazz will operate the 100/200 and 705s.

A number of Dash-9s will be retired, but not the entire fleet. There have been rumours that Jazz was looking into the new Q-Series Dash-8s, but I think they were only rumours.

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 11):
not right away.They will get PTV`s at a later stage.

I thought they were coming with them already installed?


User currently offlineEnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

Quoting AC7E7 (Reply 18):
I thought they were coming with them already installed?

That's what I thought too and it makes sense to do it before they enter service rather than messing around with all the seats later. Have they dilly-dallied too long making a decision on the IFE vendor?


User currently offlineCXYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

Quoting Pdpsol (Reply 15):
once [or if] the DHC-8-100 and DHC-8-300 examples are phased out?

As long as AC Jazz wish to continue operating from YTZ, they'll keep the turboprops around as jets are not permitted at Toronto City Centre airport.

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 14):
still cannot get over the operational lunacy of an airline ordering both 75-seat CRJ-705's for its commuter wing and 73-seat ERJ-175's for the mainline

I believe one of the explanations for the order split at the time it was announced was delivery slots. AC wanted a relatively large number of RJs and neither Bombardier nor Embraer were able to deliver the entire order within the timeline set by AC.


User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Quoting EnviroTO (Reply 19):
That's what I thought too and it makes sense to do it before they enter service rather than messing around with all the seats later. Have they dilly-dallied too long making a decision on the IFE vendor?

The only IFE system currently certified in Canada is Westjet's ExpressVu Live TV. As a result anything AC chooses has to be certified by Transport Canada. Considering there's quite few aircraft types to be certified on, this is not a small task.


User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

Does anybody know where the CRJ-700 is at now, and where it's journey will be taking it in the next few days?


Mark McWhirter...Contrails Photography
User currently offlineMark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Yyz717--I still cannot get over the operational lunacy of an airline ordering both 75-seat CRJ-705's for its commuter wing and 73-seat ERJ-175's for the mainline. It's operationally inefficient. No financials will ever justify this nonsense.

What might you intend to do about it, then?  Smile


It is kinda quirky to be sure but then I guess they just had too much domestic political pressure to go All-Embraer.


User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

AC adjusted their original BBD order downwards by 15 airframes. My guess is that AC got a steal of a deal with the EMB175s to be the launch customer, and in doing so they also fulfilled their obligations with ACPA. Of course who really knows, that's just my thought.

25 Spyderz : The sole reason Bombardier and Embraer both received orders is due to labour issues. By having two seperate fleets, both companies can operate a seper
26 Sebring : The 705 has a great deal of commonality with the CRJ-200, and it has more range than the 175. For the kind of flying the CRJ-705 is projected to do,
27 CRJ900 : I just noticed on the CRJ705 info page at AC: the picture is of a CRJ701 - a standard -700 and there are 66 seats in economy instead of 65. Shouldn't
28 Miami1 : I assumed that perhaps seat 12B would not exist due to the offsest in the aisle between J and Y. Sometimes airlines do this so as to limited the amoun
29 Arrow : Anyone have any efficiency numbers comparing the CRJ705 with the E175? And if the 705 has a 34 inch seat pitch, is the Embraer that much more comforta
30 Post contains images HiFi : Get inside a E175 if you can... I'm 2m tall and I can walk the aisle without having to put my chin against my chest. seats are wider, aisle is wider.
31 Post contains links and images Samurai 777 : This is it - the 1st pic of a CRJ-705 in AC Jazz colors! View Large View MediumPhoto © Eric Fortin - AirImages
32 Fallingeese : Does anybody know the schedule, and day the plane will be put on it's first routes.
33 ChrisA330 : The main routes that it'll be put on are the Texas routes: YYC-IAH June 1 replacing A319 YYZ-IAH July 1 replacing CRJ200 YYZ-DFW August 1 replacing CR
34 Fallingeese : So where is it going to be for the next 3 weeks if it starts service on June 1st?
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