BoeingForEver From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 216 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
I just came home on one of continentals 777 business first seats, and i was disappointed. in fact, i noticed that the seat was more comfortable in the cradle position, than it was in the lie flat position. although, im 6'3, i have seen other lie flat business class seats(raffles,qantas), and those were fine. Continentals engineers have some work on their hands. the angle just doesnt work
TinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1727 times:
I have never flown anyone's J-class product...just domestic first on DL (yawn) but anyway. If you have the window seat and need to get up for the bathroom while the person next to you is sleeping...how does that work? Do you climb over them?
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BoeingATL From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1677 times:
CO does not really have lie-flat seats. Nor does DL, but DL does have 60" of pitch compared to CO's 55". DL's seats are leather, CO cloth also CO has this weird footrest, like a metal stirrup. If you're window on either DL or CO and your aisle partner is fully reclined it can be a very awkward climb over especially when you're 2 meters tall and have to deal with the overhead bin. That's why I always fly the middle row on both. CO's 767's have a single seat in the middle. Flying it for 11 hours next week, we'll see how it feels with an aisle on both sides.
Carfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1727 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1573 times:
I actually like NW's WBC seats better than CO. CO's BF seats are also an earlier generation of lie flat seats...
Well to be honest, I actually like the old style sleeper seats... and find all the angled lie flat seats very uncomfortable, even CX or SQ. DL Business Elite seats don't bother me at all... as well as BMI's business seats.
Of course, the Virgin suites are truly the best J sleeper seats out there, but I guess only NZ is going with these seats. BA sleeper seats are also fully flat, but the problem is the narrowness of the seats.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1510 times:
Quoting Richard28 (Reply 1): The other type is the true horizontal J class flat bed, pioneered by BA, and now with SAA and VS also.
NZ too
Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4): If you have the window seat and need to get up for the bathroom while the person next to you is sleeping...how does that work? Do you climb over them?
There is plenty of space to get out
Quoting Carfield (Reply 7): Of course, the Virgin suites are truly the best J sleeper seats out there, but I guess only NZ is going with these seats.
NZ are the only ones allowed to use them as Virgin owns the patents and has only licensed it to NZ
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Richard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1570 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1378 times:
Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4): If you have the window seat and need to get up for the bathroom while the person next to you is sleeping...how does that work?
it varies.
On BA you have to step over the feet of your neighbour. On VS every seat has aisle access (they have a herringbone layout) so there is not a problem.