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User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7726 times:

I was wondering what the current status of all the Delta Tristars is? are there any left, i know one was used for the show lost and one used as a flying hospital but what about the others. the faa registry lists ship 728 as destroyed but the last i heard DL still had all the tristars in their posession and they could not sell them or somthing like that. if anyone can tell me the current status of these Tristars id appreciate it alot.

if this has been discussed before please tell me

--COAMiG29--

LONG LIVE THE L-1011


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7720 times:

DL has retired all of their L-1011s. Most have been scrapped by now, but a few are still parked in the desert. Yes, the scrapped hull of a DL TriStar was (is?) used as part of the backdrop for the current TV show 'Lost'.

User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

how many tristars are left , i heard it was unprofitable to scrap them. are they by any chance for sale?


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7700 times:

Two former DL Tristar's have gone to Thai carrier, Thai Sky! They operate from BKK to HKG and are soon going to expand to other Asian cities!

HS-AXA and HS-AXE!


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Looks in pretty good condition!

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7677 times:

DL loved the TriStar, it turned out to be a great airplane for them, they had the worlds largest fleet of L-1011s at one time. Sadly, DL-191(H), a L-1011, was lost at DFW in August 1985 in a windsheer accident. A few former DL L-1011-500s are still flying with TZ as military charters. It's good to see a few others have found homes.

User currently offlineCOAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7667 times:

are any still parked pending sale or scrap?


If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7658 times:

A large number of them are still stored at VCV. If you look at this photo,

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there were still 27 Tristars left as of January 31st, and given that not to many planes are being scrapped, it should still be over 20 of at VCV as of today.
Delta also used to have alot of L-1011s stored at MHV, but I believe those have all been scrapped or sold.
And as an add-on info, over the years, Delta operated a total of 78 different L-1011s, out of 250 produced, with the highest one-time number being 51, IIRC.


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1968 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7628 times:

http://flytristar.tripod.com/


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7533 times:

are any still parked pending sale or scrap?
As old as they are and with limited support, most will be scrapped.....
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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7449 times:

Some of the older birds have been scrapped. Many are still sitting in VCV awaiting their fate, since many Third World airlines can only afford older airplanes, even though they are fuel guzzlers and maintenance nightmares in their later years. Although they are old, most were kept in as immaculate condition as possible, so they still have a few years life in them. And a few have gone on to live again. A website to look into to see some pics of revived L-10's, as well as the "Lost" movie plane was created by a DL flight attendant and her husband. It also talks of the DC-3 "Ship 41" and DL 727's. The website is:


http://www.l1011.homestead.com/


And the last I heard, Ship 728, the "Delta Belle" is still in one piece. She was donated to the Flying Hospital, a nice thing to do, but for spare parts, meaning she will be cannibalized. But the last I heard from my people, she is still in one piece and has not needed to be used. She is probably wherever the Flying Hospital is located, somewhere in AZ, I think.


User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7121 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 9):
Ship 728, the "Delta Belle" is still in one piece

I would love to know if that is true.... I was lucky enough to be one of the employee's to take the "Belle" to the desert, so i have a huge bond with that Star. I wish somebody could get a recent picture of the "Belle" where ever she is....

N160LH



"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7112 times:

Quoting COAMiG29 (Reply 2):
how many tristars are left , i heard it was unprofitable to scrap them. are they by any chance for sale?

Unprofitable? Of course DL is not getting back what they paid for them, but they still get some money selling them to a scrapper. Many are being used for spares as Lockheed is not exactly producing L1011 spares in droves, though the engines are still readily available as Rolls still produces the RB211. The best examples are often sold, which is why DL actually keeps them in decent shape down in VCV.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineKC135R From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 728 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7090 times:

Quoting COAMiG29 (Thread starter):
LONG LIVE THE L-1011

First of all, let me say this is not meant to agitate anyone, this is truly a question purely based on curiosity, so here goes -

Why do so many people love the L-1011 so much?

I don't get it, I flew on one once - a DL sometime in the mid 90's, it was OK I guess, but I wasn't enamored with it. I do remember it had the same funny, oily smell coming from the AC system that all military Lockheed planes have also. I don't find it particularly attractive looking, though it does have a certain uniqueness that is kind of cool. At 250 produced, it wasn't overly successful - so why the fascination with this plane? The L-1011 has a definite cult following, for lack of a better word.

Just curios - nothing beyond that.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

Quoting KC135R (Reply 12):
Why do so many people love the L-1011 so much?

Many reasons, see below

Quoting KC135R (Reply 12):
I don't find it particularly attractive looking,

You are in the minority as most find it one of the most beautiful designs ever to fly

Quoting KC135R (Reply 12):
The L-1011 has a definite cult following, for lack of a better word.

Actually, it is not so much a cult following. Those old enough to have flown the L1011, especially people who are not airplane nuts, have praised the L1011 for its smoothness and stability in the air, its amazing safety record and its comfort (a great deal of space was built into it by Lockheed, something MDC did not do as much of with the DC-10). I am lucky enough to have flown the L10 on several occassions and can totally attest to all of those things.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7052 times:

Quoting KC135R (Reply 12):
Why do so many people love the L-1011 so much?

There is nothing like hearing an L-1011 spin up all three Rolls-Royce's on takeoff... It was just the most comforting humming noise... Thats what did it for me... I absolutely hated working the "Star's", but would plan a trip around flying on one....



Quoting KC135R (Reply 12):
I don't find it particularly attractive looking

that's where you are wrong the L-1011 is simply beautiful!



"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7039 times:

Thai Sky L-1011 HS-AXA was actually DL L1011 N722DA

User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7035 times:

Some of us are also lucky enough to work them on a regular basis.  Silly

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
A few former DL L-1011-500s are still flying with TZ as military charters.

ATA's four -500's are all ex-Royal Jordanian, not DL. We used to have some ex-DL -50's (converted from -1) but they're all retired.



- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineKC135R From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 728 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7030 times:

Quoting N160LH (Reply 14):
that's where you are wrong the L-1011 is simply beautiful!

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I said "I" don't find it particularly attractive.  Smile


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6987 times:

Having grown up in Atlanta you came to the conclusion that if you wanted to go anywhere interesting an L-1011 was in your future. I have logged many hours in the back of various Tri-Stars. As we used to say, if you want to leave Atlanta you have 2 choices; fly Delta or walk!


"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20728 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6965 times:

Quoting KC135R (Reply 12):
Why do so many people love the L-1011 so much?

The sound. The checkerboard ceiling. The performance. The sculpted lines of the tail engine. The perfect balance it seemed to feel inflight.

While I grew to like the DC-10 after flying it numerous times on the DEN-LGW route, it just never had the same overall feel to it as the Tristar.

For the longest time, I'd spent more time and logged far more miles on a TWA L-1011 to more destinations than any other single aircraft type. All of them enjoyable moments.



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3694 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

Best flight I've ever had was on a TW L1011 STL-MCO.....


PHX based
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6859 times:

There is one ex-DL L-1011 (N781DL) parked @ MGE. It was involved in an inflight incident back in 1995, where the a/c suffered a major structural issue:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001207X04273&key=1

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http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mariet...82&spn=0.005311,0.007832&t=k&hl=en


User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6839 times:

The L-1011 was simply the greatest airplane ever. I had the pleasure of flying on Delta's L-1011's 9 times and I loved every flight. I will miss the spacious cabin of the L-1011, as well as the smokey startups, sound of the RB-211's, and smooth flights. I will really miss these birds.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6808 times:

What are the numerous prop planes on the tarmac in that marietta image? I assume they're C130's, but I see a couple that look like P3 orions... is marietta a naval air station or an air force base or what?

And to go back on topic, the L1011 was one of the first planes I flew on my way from Miami to Atlanta to maine when I was a child, I particularly remember the spaciousness of the cabin....


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

I remember flying on Delta L-1011... DL is a huge fan of L-1011s.


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25 Da man : Marietta is Lockheed's assembly site in Georgia. The C-130, C-5, C-141. da man
26 COAMiG29 : Unfortunantely i never got to fly one, i know ATA still has some but they are militry charter, after the war in iraq will these return to commerical?
27 Lrgt : That is actually incorrect. There are too many spares available and they're worth nothing!
28 AirEMS : Wasn't a DL L-1011 used in the movie SWAT? Fly Safe -Carl
29 APFjoker : When I worked ground crew for TZ at RSW in 1999, the L-1011 used to come in on the weekends. When we would push back, and the number 3 would start up,
30 777STL : Sure was.....................
31 N160LH : I have to say this post is like a breath of fresh air... I have so many good memories of working/flying on Mother Delta that have been so hard to thin
32 COAMiG29 : as i said before, is it ever going to be possible in the near future to fly on a L-1011 and if so with who and where to? id also like to speculate abo
33 GARUDAROD : If you want to fly a Tristar, you should head to Bangkok! Between Orient Thai, Fly Thai, Thai 1-2-3 you can capture the glistening Lockheeds once agai
34 DAL767400ER : Only fuel cost approximately 50% less, but with fuel prices on the current level, no chance. Personally, I got to fly the L-1011 multiple times, espe
35 AirEMS : Yet another 3 hole aircraft I would have loved to fly on.. Long live the L-1011, the DC-10 and MD-11 Fly Safe -Carl
36 Tom in NO : I'm very partial to the 1011. It's what put food on our table for many years while I was growing up. My dad worked for Lockheed for over 30 years at B
37 Post contains links Srbmod : The four C-130s parked next to the L-1011 are among the eight Libya ordered in the 1970s, but the a/c were blocked from being delivered to them by th
38 COAMiG29 : OK. thanks for all the info if you want to post your stories of L-1011 flights please feel free. if anyone can tell me where to book a flight id love
39 TZTriStar500 : You're in luck! Our scheduled LAX-CUN roundtrip is an L15 beginning June 18 on Saturdays and Sundays for the summer months....last and only chance to
40 COAMiG29 : what airline are you refering to, ATA? thanks alot for that info by the way
41 LN-MOW : He's indeed referring to ATA, and first flight seems actually to be on the 11th ...
42 COAMiG29 : is it only lax>cun or are there other available options, im out of dfw.
43 OttoPylit : I would say it is that uniqueness that others find as attractiveness. Granted, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think many people find it
44 COAMiG29 : is the LAX>CUN the only flights ata is offering, im out of dfw, the lax is not a problem but the international ticket price is pretty close to breakin
45 WDBRR : I believe EASTERN was the launch customer of the L1011, they used to have a large fleet. Eastern was also the launch customer of the A300 and B757. Ca
46 COAMiG29 : so the flights are on sat and sun beginning on june 18, how long do they go? till what date
47 Dasheighty : There is a Ex Delta L-10-11 parked at Atlantic City International (It looks like it is in one piece) Also United sp "Friendship one is there also." I
48 DAYflyer : I guess you have answered your own question to a degree. But, the L1011 had many technology firsts as well. It is a beautifull, reliable old gas hog
49 Stirling : One of the most terrifying landings I've ever experienced was on a Rich International flight SFO-OGG which landed something like 30 degrees off the ce
50 TZTriStar500 : The ATA LAX-CUN flights are the only scheduled service planned for the L15s. I haven't checked for sure, but I believe they operate through most if no
51 COAMiG29 : i know this is a stupid question but just to be sure in case i buy a ticket L-15 is the L-1011-500 correct? if so i have the flight planned
52 TZTriStar500 : Yes, L15 is the common three letter scheduling code for the L-1011-500
53 COAMiG29 : TZTriStar500, assuming that i am correct and you work for ATA, is there any way you can help me get a discount on the L-15 flight,i know its alot to a
54 COAMiG29 : TZTriStar500 in case you dident notice im just joking, id never ask for a favor like that. im lined up for a summer job to pay for my flight, if there
55 WDBRR : Didn't Delta buy a large number of Eastern's L1011's after they shut down in 1991?
56 COAMiG29 : they may have but all of delta's L-1011s are gone now anyway
57 DeltaA380 : My last L-1011 flight (unless I get lucky some time in the future,) was also DL1949 from MCO-ATL about a month before DL retired the last one to VCV.
58 Flyabunch : I always looked forward to L1011 flights. For its time, it was my favorite plane. I was fortunate enough to fly on L10's on four different airlines. P
59 N160LH : Loved to fly on them but I absolutely hated working them. I remember working flight 16, 17 DFW-HNL-DFW may times where we would have to wait for a GS
60 Post contains images Tribird1011 : Here's a crazy idea; given that the L10 was such a great airplane in more ways than one, is there any possibility that Lockheed may open up the assemb
61 Milesrich : How can any write anything like the post that asks if Lockheed may open the L1011 assembly line again? And then states it could be make into a profita
62 N160LH : Almost every airlines trims there aircraft like this, this by no means is just a L-10 or DL deal. Never met a pilot that had flown the L-10 that had
63 CWAFlyer : That being said, a lot of people respect the aircraft for her tremendous safety record. Of course, no aircraft will ever be perfectly safe, but over
64 ToTheStars : As a flight attendant, I loved working our L-10's at TWA (except for the overhead bins.) My favorite position to work was the lower galley. It was gre
65 DeltaA380 : TotheStars: Flight 401 was which incident? I had a colleague at DL, in the last years of the L-1011, who loved working DL219 routing SLCSFOHNL, in SFO
66 OttoPylit : Flight 401 was the Eastern L-1011 that crashed into the Everglades on approach to MIA. The crew crashed the plane after accidentally knocking the cont
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