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Northwest And DCA  
User currently offlineERJ145LR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

Hey all,
I have two questions about NWA and DCA.
1. Do they fly any 757-300's into DCA, I keep thinking I am seeing them on pproach along the Potomac. I coluld be wrong they very well may be -200's...anyone know/ If they are -300's where are they flying?

2. I saw a BAE-200 landing at DCA yesterday it was a NWA airlink one, Was that a diversions or have they started flying em' into DCA? From where?


Thanks!  Smile

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User currently offlineCaptSkibi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4602 times:

Northwest has started non-stops from GRR to DCA with the Avro RJ-85 as of May 2. This may have been the plane you saw.

It arrives at DCA at 9:59 AM and departs 6:25 PM.


User currently offlineERJ145LR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4535 times:

Yea thats definatly what and when i saw it

Any idea bout the 757-300's?


User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

I believe the -300 can not land due to safety reasons. There is a length limit on airplanes into Washington DCA due to fire safety.

I think the limit is between the -200 and -300.

Maybe I am wrong but who knows...


User currently offlineTWA902fly From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

Quoting CaptSkibi (Reply 1):
It arrives at DCA at 9:59 AM and departs 6:25 PM.

That's quite a waste of an aircraft - does it really stay at DCA from 10AM until 6PM?

'902


User currently offlineCoronado990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 4):

Nope. It departs for DTW at 10:59a. The evening flight comes from MSP and arrives DCA at 5:52p based on June schedules in Worldspan.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4304 times:

No 757-300's into DCA. The RJ-85 is from LAN and MSP.

NW also owns the most slots at DCA, though most of them are leased to US Airways. NW used to have a DCA hub.


User currently offlineSeptember11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
NW used to have a DCA hub

never, really. More likely focus city. NW acquired DCA slots from EA but that did not build DCA as a hub for NW.

[Edited 2005-05-09 03:56:39]

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 7):
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
NW used to have a DCA hub

never, really. More likely focus city. NW acquired DCA slots from EA but that did not build DCA as a hub for NW.

Wanna tell me why NW called it a hub, and they even had DCA hub pins?


User currently offlineGigneil From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Reply 3):
I believe the -300 can not land due to safety reasons. There is a length limit on airplanes into Washington DCA due to fire safety.

The A300-600R and 767-300 are approved for landing at DCA. ATA has flown the 753 there if I'm not mistaken.

N


User currently offlineA330323X From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
NW also owns the most slots at DCA, though most of them are leased to US Airways.

What are you talking about? NW owns about 80 slots at DCA, and leases 20 of them to US. US owns about 330 slots of its own. Both AA and DL also own more DCA slots than NW.


User currently offlineC680 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
The A300-600R and 767-300 are approved for landing at DCA. ATA has flown the 753 there if I'm not mistaken.

There was also a UA DC-10 that used to come into DCA.

But of course, that was an Emergency Landing....  Wink


User currently offlineNWADC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

Quoting ERJ145LR (Thread starter):
2. I saw a BAE-200 landing at DCA yesterday it was a NWA airlink one, Was that a diversions or have they started flying em' into DCA? From where?

What's a BAe 200? It's BAe 146-200, and Mesaba operates Avro RJ-85's.

hey, it's 12:02a Wink


User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

My question is why did'nt NW move over to the new terminal building and abandon the retro terminal 1?

User currently offlineNWA Man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 13):
My question is why did'nt NW move over to the new terminal building and abandon the retro terminal 1?

Good question. IIRC, the old terminal was named some type of national monument and the destruction of the building was prohibited. Thus, NW got the shaft and remained in the land of the "Eight Gate Cafe" while CO and others moved on to greener pastures.


User currently offlineAzjubilee From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

The avro only serves GRR not LAN from DCA. The a/c is bridged into DCA from MSP and out to DTW. The a/c is routed MSP-DCA-GRR overnight GRR-DCA-DTW.

AZJ


User currently offlineAlphascan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
Wanna tell me why NW called it a hub, and they even had DCA hub pins?

In the late 80s NWA established a mini-hub (now defined as a "focus city") at DCA and the pins reflected that designation. The mini-hub was quickly dissolved with the recession in 1990/91 much like the first MKE mini-hub.


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3532 times:

DCA never had single B757-300. Not from ATA, not from NW and not from CO.
As some people have already said, NW is operating Avro twice daily on flights to LAN.

Rafal


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3461 times:

No!!!! The Avro operates GRR-DCA
LAN-DCA begins in June, when IAD-DCA ends and will be operated with a CRJ

NW May DCA Schedule:

DTW: 9 daily (1x ARJ, 1x D9S, 2x 319, 1x 320, 4x 752)
MSP: 7 daily (2x 319, 4x A320, 1x 752)
MEM: 3 daily (2x 319, 1x 320)
MKE: 3 daily (3x CRJ)
IND: 3 daily (2x CRJ, 1x D9S)
GRR: 1 daily (1x ARJ)
DSM: 1 daily (1x CRJ)

LAN: 1 daily (CRJ) begins June 9th
MSN: 1 daily (CRJ) begins June 9th


User currently offlineAzjubilee From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3438 times:

Good god people... do some research and figure out who's blowing smoke up your butts!! THERE IS NO TWICE DAILY AVRO SERVICE FROM LANSING TO DCA!!!!!!

This is the avro DCA schedule for those who are too lazy to find it for themselves and go on a fact finding mission.

NW #3496 GRR-DCA 814-959 x Su
NW #3508 DCA-DTW 1103-1235 x Su

NW #3662 MSP-DCA 1420-1737 x Sa
NW #3497 DCA-GRR 1825-2035 x Sa

The following is the LAN-DCA schedule OPERATED BY PINNACLE CRJ eff 6/9

NW #4738 DCA-LAN 2040-2241 x Sa
NW #4739 LAN-DCA 700-841 x Su

The current LAN-Washington schedule is operated by Pinnacle as well, however there are two flights servicing IAD.


AZJ


User currently offlineN867BX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3322 times:

So the LAN-DCA route is flown with an AVRO, I'm glad we cleared that up.

User currently offlineCoronado990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3281 times:

Quoting N867BX (Reply 20):
So the LAN-DCA route is flown with an AVRO, I'm glad we cleared that up.

Yes, and it sits in DCA all day and does nothing!


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3276 times:

Anybody know if Delta has been sending a 767 into DCA now and then? I feel like I at least see Delta 757s fairly often.

User currently offlineORD From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3219 times:

Quoting Alphascan (Reply 16):
In the late 80s NWA established a mini-hub (now defined as a "focus city") at DCA and the pins reflected that designation. The mini-hub was quickly dissolved with the recession in 1990/91 much like the first MKE mini-hub.

This is correct, but the dates are off. Northwest started the DCA mini-hub after acquiring slots and gates from Eastern in January 1991. Northwest then built up DCA in April 1991 as follows (it became NW's 4th largest station):

Detroit - 7 nonstops (already existed)
Minneapolis - 6 nonstops (already existed)
Memphis - 4 nonstops (already existed)
Milwaukee - 2 nonstops (already existed)
Boston - 9 nonstops (2 new, 7 already existed)
Newark - 7 nonstops
Atlanta - 4 nonstops
Hartford - 3 nonstops
Orlando - 3 nonstops
Miami - 2 nonstops
Tampa - 2 nonstops
Ft. Lauderdale - 2 nonstops
West Palm Beach - 1 nonstop

As was mentioned, financial difficulty and a near-bankruptcy filing caused Northwest to abondon the DCA mini-hub.


User currently offlineAzjubilee From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3079 times:

Coronado and N867BX - are you two kidding around or are you really just that stupid?



AZJ


25 Coronado990 : I am sure N867BX is just joking around and you can read my reply #5 for an "honest" answer.[Edited 2005-05-09 19:58:41]
26 Azjubilee : Hahaha... sometimes it's hard to tell when people are being serious or just being seriously dumb. =) AZJ
27 3201 : At the risk of going way off topic for this thread... This has always bugged me. Aren't focus cities just places where you fly point-to-point for O&D,
28 AAFLT1871 : Don't think So
29 NWADC9 : What IAD-DCA? There is no IAD-DCA
30 Ahdharia : Actually NWA does fly daily non stop service from DTW-DCA. There is 1 flight daily DTW-DCA and vice versa. I just booked my flight to DCA from DTW, an
31 CBERFlyer : When the new Terminal B/C opened in 1997, there was not enough space to accommodate moving every airline over to the new building from the old Termin
32 Jerplane : Does/has US operate(d) 75's to DCA? When they did and don't now when did they stop. If they did or still do how many and when do they come in? Sorry f
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