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User currently offlineERJ145LR From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 431 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Hey all,
I have two questions about NWA and DCA.
1. Do they fly any 757-300's into DCA, I keep thinking I am seeing them on pproach along the Potomac. I coluld be wrong they very well may be -200's...anyone know/ If they are -300's where are they flying?

2. I saw a BAE-200 landing at DCA yesterday it was a NWA airlink one, Was that a diversions or have they started flying em' into DCA? From where?


Thanks!  Smile

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User currently offlineCaptSkibi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

Northwest has started non-stops from GRR to DCA with the Avro RJ-85 as of May 2. This may have been the plane you saw.

It arrives at DCA at 9:59 AM and departs 6:25 PM.



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User currently offlineERJ145LR From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Yea thats definatly what and when i saw it

Any idea bout the 757-300's?


User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

I believe the -300 can not land due to safety reasons. There is a length limit on airplanes into Washington DCA due to fire safety.

I think the limit is between the -200 and -300.

Maybe I am wrong but who knows...


User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4233 times:

Quoting CaptSkibi (Reply 1):
It arrives at DCA at 9:59 AM and departs 6:25 PM.

That's quite a waste of an aircraft - does it really stay at DCA from 10AM until 6PM?

'902



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4139 times:

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 4):

Nope. It departs for DTW at 10:59a. The evening flight comes from MSP and arrives DCA at 5:52p based on June schedules in Worldspan.



Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7504 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

No 757-300's into DCA. The RJ-85 is from LAN and MSP.

NW also owns the most slots at DCA, though most of them are leased to US Airways. NW used to have a DCA hub.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
NW used to have a DCA hub

never, really. More likely focus city. NW acquired DCA slots from EA but that did not build DCA as a hub for NW.

[Edited 2005-05-09 03:56:39]


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7504 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 7):
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
NW used to have a DCA hub

never, really. More likely focus city. NW acquired DCA slots from EA but that did not build DCA as a hub for NW.

Wanna tell me why NW called it a hub, and they even had DCA hub pins?



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3942 times:

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Reply 3):
I believe the -300 can not land due to safety reasons. There is a length limit on airplanes into Washington DCA due to fire safety.

The A300-600R and 767-300 are approved for landing at DCA. ATA has flown the 753 there if I'm not mistaken.

N


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 6):
NW also owns the most slots at DCA, though most of them are leased to US Airways.

What are you talking about? NW owns about 80 slots at DCA, and leases 20 of them to US. US owns about 330 slots of its own. Both AA and DL also own more DCA slots than NW.



I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlineC680 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 9):
The A300-600R and 767-300 are approved for landing at DCA. ATA has flown the 753 there if I'm not mistaken.

There was also a UA DC-10 that used to come into DCA.

But of course, that was an Emergency Landing....  Wink



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4892 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3865 times:

Quoting ERJ145LR (Thread starter):
2. I saw a BAE-200 landing at DCA yesterday it was a NWA airlink one, Was that a diversions or have they started flying em' into DCA? From where?

What's a BAe 200? It's BAe 146-200, and Mesaba operates Avro RJ-85's.

hey, it's 12:02a Wink



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User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

My question is why did'nt NW move over to the new terminal building and abandon the retro terminal 1?


Where did everybody go?
User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3741 times:

Quoting AAFLT1871 (Reply 13):
My question is why did'nt NW move over to the new terminal building and abandon the retro terminal 1?

Good question. IIRC, the old terminal was named some type of national monument and the destruction of the building was prohibited. Thus, NW got the shaft and remained in the land of the "Eight Gate Cafe" while CO and others moved on to greener pastures.



Create your own luck.
User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3799 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

The avro only serves GRR not LAN from DCA. The a/c is bridged into DCA from MSP and out to DTW. The a/c is routed MSP-DCA-GRR overnight GRR-DCA-DTW.

AZJ


User currently offlineAlphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 937 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
Wanna tell me why NW called it a hub, and they even had DCA hub pins?

In the late 80s NWA established a mini-hub (now defined as a "focus city") at DCA and the pins reflected that designation. The mini-hub was quickly dissolved with the recession in 1990/91 much like the first MKE mini-hub.



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

DCA never had single B757-300. Not from ATA, not from NW and not from CO.
As some people have already said, NW is operating Avro twice daily on flights to LAN.

Rafal


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

No!!!! The Avro operates GRR-DCA
LAN-DCA begins in June, when IAD-DCA ends and will be operated with a CRJ

NW May DCA Schedule:

DTW: 9 daily (1x ARJ, 1x D9S, 2x 319, 1x 320, 4x 752)
MSP: 7 daily (2x 319, 4x A320, 1x 752)
MEM: 3 daily (2x 319, 1x 320)
MKE: 3 daily (3x CRJ)
IND: 3 daily (2x CRJ, 1x D9S)
GRR: 1 daily (1x ARJ)
DSM: 1 daily (1x CRJ)

LAN: 1 daily (CRJ) begins June 9th
MSN: 1 daily (CRJ) begins June 9th


User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3799 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Good god people... do some research and figure out who's blowing smoke up your butts!! THERE IS NO TWICE DAILY AVRO SERVICE FROM LANSING TO DCA!!!!!!

This is the avro DCA schedule for those who are too lazy to find it for themselves and go on a fact finding mission.

NW #3496 GRR-DCA 814-959 x Su
NW #3508 DCA-DTW 1103-1235 x Su

NW #3662 MSP-DCA 1420-1737 x Sa
NW #3497 DCA-GRR 1825-2035 x Sa

The following is the LAN-DCA schedule OPERATED BY PINNACLE CRJ eff 6/9

NW #4738 DCA-LAN 2040-2241 x Sa
NW #4739 LAN-DCA 700-841 x Su

The current LAN-Washington schedule is operated by Pinnacle as well, however there are two flights servicing IAD.


AZJ


User currently offlineN867BX From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

So the LAN-DCA route is flown with an AVRO, I'm glad we cleared that up.

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Quoting N867BX (Reply 20):
So the LAN-DCA route is flown with an AVRO, I'm glad we cleared that up.

Yes, and it sits in DCA all day and does nothing!



Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Anybody know if Delta has been sending a 767 into DCA now and then? I feel like I at least see Delta 757s fairly often.

User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

Quoting Alphascan (Reply 16):
In the late 80s NWA established a mini-hub (now defined as a "focus city") at DCA and the pins reflected that designation. The mini-hub was quickly dissolved with the recession in 1990/91 much like the first MKE mini-hub.

This is correct, but the dates are off. Northwest started the DCA mini-hub after acquiring slots and gates from Eastern in January 1991. Northwest then built up DCA in April 1991 as follows (it became NW's 4th largest station):

Detroit - 7 nonstops (already existed)
Minneapolis - 6 nonstops (already existed)
Memphis - 4 nonstops (already existed)
Milwaukee - 2 nonstops (already existed)
Boston - 9 nonstops (2 new, 7 already existed)
Newark - 7 nonstops
Atlanta - 4 nonstops
Hartford - 3 nonstops
Orlando - 3 nonstops
Miami - 2 nonstops
Tampa - 2 nonstops
Ft. Lauderdale - 2 nonstops
West Palm Beach - 1 nonstop

As was mentioned, financial difficulty and a near-bankruptcy filing caused Northwest to abondon the DCA mini-hub.


User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3799 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Coronado and N867BX - are you two kidding around or are you really just that stupid?



AZJ


25 Coronado990 : I am sure N867BX is just joking around and you can read my reply #5 for an "honest" answer.[Edited 2005-05-09 19:58:41]
26 Azjubilee : Hahaha... sometimes it's hard to tell when people are being serious or just being seriously dumb. =) AZJ
27 3201 : At the risk of going way off topic for this thread... This has always bugged me. Aren't focus cities just places where you fly point-to-point for O&D,
28 AAFLT1871 : Don't think So
29 NWADC9 : What IAD-DCA? There is no IAD-DCA
30 Ahdharia : Actually NWA does fly daily non stop service from DTW-DCA. There is 1 flight daily DTW-DCA and vice versa. I just booked my flight to DCA from DTW, an
31 CBERFlyer : When the new Terminal B/C opened in 1997, there was not enough space to accommodate moving every airline over to the new building from the old Termin
32 Jerplane : Does/has US operate(d) 75's to DCA? When they did and don't now when did they stop. If they did or still do how many and when do they come in? Sorry f
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