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Can You Sue Boeing For This?!?  
User currently offlineMagyar From Hungary, joined Feb 2000, 599 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Read this piece of news from Boeing's website:

>>
SEATTLE, April 13, 2000 -- Results of a study released
earlier this week indicate that four of the top five airlines
preferred by U.S. travelers operate all-Boeing fleets.
The study, conducted by researchers at Wichita State
University and the University of Nebraska at Omaha, is
based on data collected by the United States Department of
Transportation. It showed that on-time performance
remains a primary issue with flyers.
Of the five airlines ranked at the top of the 1999 survey,
Southwest, Continental, Delta and Alaska are all-Boeing
operators.

"Passengers want to depart and arrive on time," said
Professor Dean Headley, one of the study's authors. "If the
flight is on time, it colors everything else." He added that the
top airlines hold their positions at the head of performance
studies in large part because passengers recognize their
consistent reliability.

"We see this as reinforcing what we have known for a longtime," said Seddik Belyamani, Boeing executive vice
president of sales and marketing. "Passengers place great
importance on reliability and that's why airlines that fly
Boeing jets have a competitive advantage. Boeing jets are the
most reliable in the skies."

In addition to on-time performance, the study uses the
Department of Transportation data to score the major
U.S.-based carriers on baggage handling, consumer
complaints and denied boardings.
<<

I think this survey is more informative about the airlines rather
than the planes. I am not an expert but I have the gut feeling
that most of the delays are not due to defect in plane especially
not design defects!
I know that both AI and Boeing can go pretty low when they
have "publicity war" with each other, just see the costumer
preference A340 vs. B777 issue. However the above piece
is the most outright manipulation and deception I have ever
seen from them.
Can one actually sue Boeing for such article? I think it is provable
that it mislead the public!

Janos

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User currently offlineBarnaby From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

>>>>The study, conducted by researchers at Wichita State
University and the University of Nebraska at Omaha,<<<

What part of that DON'T you understand?


User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

if you count the MD-11 as a boeing aircraft(which it is), then there is no way that boeing airplanes leave ontime more then airbus airplanes! MD-11 stands for My Delay was 11 hours!(true on many occations)

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

I wouldn't get too upset over this, its just more PR. Boeing and Airbus have been doing it for years, and will continue to do so for as long as there is competition. Like you said before, remember the passenger preference 777 or A340. How about the 'fastest selling jetliner in history' claim by both? I'm sure in a week or two we'll see a similar claim as the above from AI about the top European airlines. And no, there's no way you can sue Boeing, because the claim is technically true. Of the recent survey, four of the top five DO HAVE all-Boeing fleets. Also, on-time performance WAS the primary motivation for passengers approving/disapproving of any particular airline. It's just what you read between the lines that Boeing is trying to fill in.

Hamlet69



Honor the warriors, not the war.
User currently offlineAb.400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

If this survey took place in 1999 and is about realibity of the airline beeing in time over years, Delta had at least until 1995 some Airbus in its fleet, shure they did good service.

User currently offlineWoodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1031 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Well, these guys just simply dont have any idea of what they are talking about. Southwest would be the only airline with an all Boeing fleet. Continental Operates DC-10s, MD-80s and has also operated Airbus A-300s. I don't count the DC-10 as being Boeing because Boeing didnt design it, build it or sell it. Has anybody ever heard of a Lockheed TriStar? How about Delta's ATR-72s, EMB-120s, CRJ-200s, MD-88s, MD-90s and MD-11s? None of those were designed or built by Boeing. How about Alaska Airlines, half their fleet is MD-82s/ 83s and those were neither designed, built or sold by Boeing to Alaska.

None of the other majors have all Boeing fleets either, United, Northwest, America West and soon USAirways all have sizeable Airbus fleet components.


User currently offlineBarnaby From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

The study said nothing about the reliability issue being a function of "Boeing-ness". Get a clue!

Check your facts one and all before posting this drivel. If anything, y'all should be sued for libel against Boeing.


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

This survey only covers the year 1999, and only covers the 'major' U.S. carriers. Woodsboy is right however, in that even so, Delta still operates the L-1011, a decidedly non-Boeing or MDC plane. But their regional a/c are operated by a subsidiary called Delta Connections Inc., so these are technically not part of Delta's fleet. The 'Boeing or McDonnell' question is a little bit fuzzier. In my opinion, even MD-series planes built after the merger should still be considered McDonnell Douglas planes. However, Boeing has made every effort with their employees to enforce the code that anything MDC is now Boeing. This is intended to prevent an 'us-and-them' mentality from forming in the new company. Also, it can be argued that Boeing is now responsible for any maintenence related items (spare parts, technical assistance, etc.) for the entire MDC fleet (DC-1 thru MD-90). So for PR bull, expect anything MDC to now be called Boeing now and forever. Whether we like it or not.

Hamlet69



Honor the warriors, not the war.
User currently offlineAb.400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

At least you can say, this so called study lack´s by far, if I were Boeing I wouldn`t public it on my Homepage.

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