Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 46 Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11295 times:
TAAG, Angola's flagship carrier, will order 3 B777s and 6 B737s for delivery in 2008. The deal was closed on a visit by Angola's President to the US. TAAG does not have cash for the operation, which will be financed by the Angolan Government. Currently TAAG operates 2 B743s and 5 732s.
Intothinair From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 392 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11177 times:
Great news for Boeing.
Seems like Boeing is doing extremely well in orders this year, especially the 737, 777 and 787.
According to www.justplanes.com, Boeing has 390 orders this year, with this order that would be 399 orders for Boeing this year so far.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10247 times:
That's indeed great news for TAAG. I think TAAG is doing the right thing ordering the 777 and the 737NG. The 777 will fit nicely in the long-haul network and it will have a great advantage over TAP A340! I really hope TAP starts really soon to review the long-haul equipment strategy otherwise it will start to lose market. The 737NG will be a natural choise for them.
I wonder how it will look the 777 with TAAG livery.
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11496 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9857 times:
I can say about the weekly flight to GIG: Always full or at least 90% as load factor. Due to engenieering services in Angola, Odebrecht (HQ in Rio) sends a lot of employees every week thru this flight as well as directors and managers.
If TAAG can improve services to/from Angola they probably can increase service to Latin America as Brazil set a higher priority for increasing trade with Africa. Seems they have a good cargo operation too.
That's the only airline flying only to GIG and not to GRU.
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6776 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8663 times:
Great news! Please provide a link.
There are no ex-UA 777s available currently since they have all been taken up by Varig and Air-India. I'm fairly sure that these will be newly builds. Perhaps this order will be announced at the Paris Air Show.
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....LX and LH 777s
TAAG's interncontinental destinations are: LIS, GIG and CDG.
Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 16): I can say about the weekly flight to GIG: Always full or at least 90% as load factor. Due to engenieering services in Angola, Odebrecht (HQ in Rio)
Interesting. Maybe with increased fleet flexibility (after delivery of the B777s) they could increase flights to GIG. RG already operated to LAD in the past. RG is responsible for the maintenance of TAAG's fleet.
Quoting CV990 (Reply 13): The 777 will fit nicely in the long-haul network and it will have a great advantage over TAP A340!
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 10): Angola seems to be experiencing the most stable conditions for awhile with traffic to and from Luanda picking up for both business/oil and tourism purposes.
Well, on the other hand, I find it really sad that the Government of Angola, i.e. the population of Angola, will pay the bill for the new airplanes. I also think they could liberalise foreign airlines operations in LAD, which is severely restricted by the Angolan Government.
Columbia107 From Gibraltar, joined Aug 2004, 358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6850 times:
Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 22): The 777 will fit nicely in the long-haul network and it will have a great advantage over TAP A340!
Since no one seems to response to the question raised. Here are my 2 cents.
Well technically I am not in a position to comment but as a paying passenger the 777 is my preferred choice. For a start its landings are always as smooth as a falling feather. And in a service industry, the customer is king.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5447 times:
When I flew last year TAP A340 I noticed that the airplane is getting quite old, and now that I've flew the 777 I must admit that TAP using the A340 and TAAG using the brand new 777 TAP will lose competition. The version that TAP is using is the 312 and whenever we like it or not TAP A340 have been used and abused with a big load of flights everyday. Regarding space and specially taking in mind that Angola is a place that normally the planes fly full the 777 will offer a better quality space than the A340, and I'm not even talking about IFE because I don't know if TAAG will order the 777 with that option, if yes then TAP is far behind than TAAG! Some people will say that IFE doesn't really matter but for me it is matter. 3 weeks ago I flew AMS/KIX with KL 777 and return on 744 and time passed quicker on the 777 than the 744!
I hope I cleared out my point, TAP needs seriously to reshape their long-haul fleet of A310-300 and the A340-300!
: I disagree. Currently VARIG uses the B777 on GIG-GRU-LIS daily (B767/MD-11 on GIG-LIS), and TAP the A340 on LIS-GRU. TAP is still very competitive us
: So all the airlines flying B777s aren't doing what I, as customer, want - because I prefer the A340. Kind of removes the basis for your arguement...
: I totally subscribe to the post above by Leskova. One clear example is RG, which is using the B777 on a lot of routes, but service is pale to say the
: Does the B737-700 has the range to fly from LAD to LIS, MAD, FCO, ATH, CAI, SSA, REC non-stop? Since is a twin-engine jet, doesn't the B777 have probl
: I dont think so. The distance is about the same of LAD-LIS. Anyone with the total miles? Rgs,
: But in LAD GIG the flight is all over the Atlantic.
: No issue with LAD-GIG, it is within easy ETOPS 180 and actually within ETOPS 138. The distance is 3351nm, less than half the 772ER's over 7700nm rang
: If this news it true, its quite a step forward for TAAG - they will have a cutting edge fleet. Its one giant step from 732/743s to 73Gs/772ERs....I as
: There is definitley demand for a weekly flight to Houston. Getting approval and Angola into Cat. I is another story. Great to see TAAG renew their fl
: Indeed, TAAG does not have a bad reputation both in Brazil and Portugal. It also seels a lot of its ticket on GIG-LAD to Brazilian infra-structure co