Chiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4864 times:
The ministry of transportation revoked the traffic rights due to safety reasons. No further comment was made.
There is nothing said if it's temporarily or permanent and if they have time - as in the Netherlands - to prove that they are save.
As far as I understand that, no more Onur Air flights are allowed to Germany with immediate effect.
Futurestar68 From Austria, joined May 2004, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4734 times:
Their Airbusses are regular visitors in Austria as well, even myself flew with them to AYT and back... Now it comes back to my mind... Our flight AYT-VIE was more than 7 hours delayed, nobody told us why... Shortly after take off, the captain appologized for the delay and told us, that the plane was grounded in Istanbul due to technical problems... I don't like saying things like that, but I think it's only a matter of time until the first Onur Air-plane will crash...
Jorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3153 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4421 times:
Quoting Emrecan (Reply 11): Onur Air is one of the best Airbus user in the world.
The decisions of the Dutch's and German's are not fair!!!!
It is a bullshit...
Because they use one of the oldest A-300 around here. Don't think that they're unsafe (especially the newer A-321's) but the old A-300's might be questionable.
It's better to act now before a chrash will happen than after many lost their life.
What will happen to the tourists going back from Turkey to the home-destinations?
Would'nt be good to send more unsafer planes than the ones which were banned from Germany and the Netherlands.
Summarizing I would say this will be the end of OHY, because the big media coverage will influence the customers more than a re-allowance for OHY to enter Germany.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10879 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4394 times:
It is big in the media meanwhile. The ban is indefinitely and it will be hard to believe to see them back. The German LBA (CAB) is following their Dutch colleagues and take the Dutch decision from Tuesday as a base for their decision.
It is said that the airline had enough warnings and if they can't get their act together or don't have the money to operate properly, than that's it.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4356 times:
I think the German authoritis are quick to act over Turkish charter airlines with questionable safety standards after that Birgenair 757 that crashed while flying a full load of german holidaymakers home on a charter flight from the Dominican Republic.
However, I think Onur is a good airline with good safety standards and also provides a high quality service for a foreign charter carrier.
Bahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4291 times:
We have your opinion against a civil aviation .. wait two civil aviation authorities. Guess which one we are going to believe more? Unfortunatelly conspiracy theories like yours are very popular in Turkey these days. On top of that it's not easy to see the big picture.
Look at all the accidents/incidences that took place in last 2 years. Visit some online websites where people talk about their flight experiences (www.carsurvey.com comes to mind) and see what they say about the airline.
With all those runway run offs, technical problems, modus operandi they do not sound like a well run airline to me.
Despite the stars and stripes that you see in my profile (because that's where I live) I happen to be Turk as well. Contrary to you I am not a victim of my foolish nationalistic pride.
I am expecting Fly Air to follow the same destiny too.