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User currently offlineLear777 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 290 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050512/cgth043a.html?.v=1

Good news for Hobby, which has been stagnant for several years. It'll be nice to have the YX 717s and their ridiculously good service serving Houston.

Brian


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Finally! Now we will see 2 carriers’ 717s at Hobby.

User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

Bummer. Was hoping YX would choose IAH over HOU. Would be nice to see YX at Terminal A.

I guess Hobby needs something other than WN.


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 2):
I guess Hobby needs something other than WN.

Well they get AA, DL, and FL.



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User currently offlineGreenguy01 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

How long until NW starts this route also?


Never argue with an idiot. They drag you to their level and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineBOSPMV From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Quoting Greenguy01 (Reply 4):
How long until NW starts this route also?

why would NW start a route into HOU, when they have a partnership with CO, which is based out of IAH?


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Quoting BOSPMV (Reply 5):
why would NW start a route into HOU, when they have a partnership with CO, which is based out of IAH?

There is a suspicious amount of new NW service – not only from Milwaukee – that is started to ‘compete’ – a la American’s practices. I seem to recall them beefing up Reno service when QQ came to MSP. I specifically recall them scaling back that service once QQ pulled out of MSP subsequently raising fares and lowering frequency of service.


User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

I'm extremely pleased to announce that Midwest Airlines is taking off for a
new destination. Beginning July 10, we're launching nonstop Signature
Service to Houston -- our third Texas destination. Our 20th Boeing 717
aircraft, which will be delivered in early July, will provide the capacity
that makes this service possible.

Our twice-daily service will be to Houston Hobby (HOU) -- one of the city's
two major airports and the favorite among business travelers. It is located
just seven miles south of downtown Houston, near the major highway leading
to NASA Johnson Space Center. It is also popular with leisure travelers,
who appreciate its convenience to tourist spots -- including the historic
coastal city of Galveston and the Gulf Coast area where many Midwesterners
spend their winters.

You might be interested to learn that Hobby served as the base of
operations for Howard Hughes' earliest aviation adventures and was briefly
named after him in the 1930s. Its current name honors former Texas governor
William P. Hobby.

This is an excellent opportunity for Midwest Airlines. Not only is it one
of the largest cities in the U.S., it is also one of the 25 top
destinations for Milwaukee travelers. No other airline offers nonstop
service between Milwaukee and Houston Hobby. While Continental does offer
nonstop service between Milwaukee and Houston Bush Intercontinental, our
88-seat jets featuring Signature Service are a superior product to
Continental's 44-seat regional jets -- especially on trips of this length
(2 hours, 40 minutes). Additionally, there is no nonstop service between
Chicago O'Hare and Houston Hobby, which provides us the opportunity to
attract Northern Illinois travelers.

With the new service to Houston, Midwest Airlines and Midwest Connect will
offer nonstop service to 47 destinations from Milwaukee -- more than any
airline serving the Milwaukee airport. And Houston-departing travelers will
now have access to more than 30 cities nationwide via our customer-friendly
Milwaukee hub.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9516 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting N917ME (Reply 7):
Additionally, there is no nonstop service between
Chicago O'Hare and Houston Hobby,

now you've done it. someone at American will be paying attention and this will be announced in just a matter of a week. haha. ;p



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User currently offlineSkyexramper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

It will be much nicer if and when YX gets rid of the -80s for bigger planes like they want to do, get some cities that are west of the rockies. Heard a rumor from an -80 captain, but you guys wouldn't like it.

User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting Lear777 (Thread starter):
It'll be nice to have the YX 717s and their ridiculously good service serving Houston

 laughing   laughing   laughing 



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User currently offlineGreenguy01 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Quoting BOSPMV (Reply 5):
why would NW start a route into HOU, when they have a partnership with CO, which is based out of IAH?

NW has been the big bully at MKE against YX and more recently at IND against TZ. I wouldn't put it past NW to add some service on this route even if they do have a partnership with CO.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Its about time that Houston get new carriers, and its about time that YX flies here. I personally am glad they chose Hobby; this decision could have been made due to lack of gate space at IAH though. Continental has been using Terminal A apron for boarding of their ERJs--supposedly as a 'defend the turf' move. If JetBlue starts service to Houston my guess is that they would serve Hobby.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3129 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2106 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 6):
There is a suspicious amount of new NW service – not only from Milwaukee – that is started to ‘compete’ – a la American’s practices. I seem to recall them beefing up Reno service when QQ came to MSP. I specifically recall them scaling back that service once QQ pulled out of MSP subsequently raising fares and lowering frequency of service.

Or that time Frontier launched LAX-MSP, and they launched DEN-LAX... that was only what a year ago? They dont fly DEN-LAX anymore, and F9 doesnt fly LAX-MSP anymore. They fiercely defend their hubs.

'902



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User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

Quoting Skyexramper (Reply 9):
It will be much nicer if and when YX gets rid of the -80s for bigger planes like they want to do, get some cities that are west of the rockies. Heard a rumor from an -80 captain, but you guys wouldn't like it.

There has been alot of discussion of this. YX admittedly made a mistake with the 717's. They were looking at the Airbus A319/320, however decided to go with the Boeing product. They are looking at replacing the 80's....with the 90's (maybe when DL rids them of their fleet). Personally, I would have chosen the Airbus.

It is great to hear that we are FINALLY going into a new city.


User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 608 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2080 times:

What they need to do is upgrade those 80s. YX can't afford to get something bigger but an upgrade of the 81s and 82s to 83s would increase their takeoff weights by quite a bit and allow them to carry more fuel. They could even add more fuel tanks with some modifications. If they would've thought of this before decimating their maintenance force they would be in much better shape. As for rumors from a YX captain, I hate to say it but their are so many rumors that have been circulating for years through that group that most are untrue. If its concerning possible Airbus A320 family aircraft, think again. One was in the hangar before the 717s were announced as a market study. Frequent flyers were brought in to look at the first class interior and provide input on the middle seat mostly. This was while YX was trying to decide on the 717 or A318. Its believed it was mostly a ploy to get a better deal from Boeing and it seemed to work. The 717 was YX's aircraft of choice from the get go and there was posters of it in YX's older colors floating around years before they decided to order it.

User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Since when did CO Express start flying 44 seat planes? IAH-MKE are all flown with 50 seat ERJs.

Additionally, while there are no flights between Hobby and ORD, there are plenty of WN flights between Hobby and Midway.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Unless Continental or Northwest relentlessly battle YX--they should be very successful here in Houston. I personally have been wanting to try out YX since I found out about their existence many many years ago.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Jeb94

No kidding! My last experience with YX was between MKE and PHX. We were on an -80 (82?) and we had to fly at FL250 for half the trip (through bad weather) before we finally were able to climb above it to FL330 (above bad weather). I went back to HP.

Once they get back on their feet financially (I know many of our Northwest folks would like to see YX die quickly, but then again, they're stuck in Minnesota, and that says it all right there... bigmouth  Wink, YX needs to dump the -80s and pick up either 737s or A319s or 320s. MD-90s would be ok I guess, but those will wear out too.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

Quoting Ilovenz (Reply 18):
We were on an -80 (82?) and we had to fly at FL250 for half the trip (through bad weather) before we finally were able to climb above it to FL330 (above bad weather). I went back to HP.

So, some how bad wx is the fault of the aircraft manufacturer or Midwest???


 spin 


User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Yeah, I remember all the A318 or 717 stuff......717 saved the company a few million in training since there was no difference in ground ops, just need differences training for flight crews cause its under the DC-9 type rating.


And I'm not talking A320 big....let your mind wander...nor md-90 cause that would be a waste of time for YX.

[Edited 2005-05-13 07:34:24]

User currently offlineCOIAHTX From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1569 times:

This is great new for YX and HOU. Although Continental has great service to IAH, YX by far has superior service. Though HOU is not in the most desirable part of town, I look forward to flying with YX to HOU. NW would be completely sutpid to start Houston service with CO and YX serving the area. The only people they would attract would be Milwaukee or Northern IL traffic, hardly enough to constitue 3 carriers flying to the Houston area. YX has connecting flights from all there destinations making this a great choice.

User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1403 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

Wasn't another issue behind the 717 vs 318 decision being that they would've had to seat people in a 2-3 configuration to make it work? I thought I read that in the JS many years ago when the decision was announced.  Confused

On a side question, does WN serve HOU-MCI? I was a little surprised--yet delighted--to see the N/S service to MKE though.

-Mike



I plan on living forever. So far, so good...
User currently offlineCOIAHTX From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

From what I can see, WN does not service MCI from HOU. Any clue as to who will be working the ramp and counter at HOU?

User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

WN used to have one non-stop between HOU and MCI. There are currently no nonstops from HOU but there are several one hoppers through OKC and Tulsa.

CO has two mainline flights and 6-7 ERJs on the IAH-MCI route.


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