Happy-flier From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 298 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1657 times:
Can anyone recommend any old films where one might see some good real action shots of the original turbojet (JT3C, JT4A) 707s and DC-8s? I have been trying to figure out ways to find out what these aircraft actually sounded like, and an old film is something that just came to mind.
Any titles would be most welcome.
May the wind be always at your back . . . except during takeoff & landing.
Chris From Canada, joined May 1999, 160 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1554 times:
I can think of one movie of hand that I'm pretty sure was called "The Pilot". It starred Cliff Robertson as an alcaholic pilot that tries to hide his problem. They use a couple of ex-United DC-8 20s or 30s painted in a fake airline colorscheme. It has a lot of good scenes of air to air shots as well as the usual takeoff and landings. Chris
Turbulence From Spain, joined Nov 1999, 963 posts, RR: 22 Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1542 times:
I can't think about any RELEVANT film, only AIRPORT, but it happens mainly at ORD, I think. Anyway, do not trust too much the film sound: I have heard air-to-air shots in old films, and they dubbed DC8s and 707s with... PROP SOUND!!!!
If you will to have a good impression of how D8s and 707s sounded, I suggest you to go to a good spotting point, or to any airport where you can stay at the end of the taking off runway, so where the planes overfly you just after T/O. Then you just have to wait for any Boeing 727, or the -200 issue of the 737, and you'll be able to listen to the magnificient “music” (too, good, for me, though “politically not correct” ) produced by the un-silented turbines of the earliest jet age. If you were lucky enough, you could also listen to some of the real 707 or D8, still used by some cargo companies. I suggest you to inform yourself at your airport. The movie sound has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Except if you have a specialized sound effect record and a 5-channel Dolby Sorround Pro-Logic sound system.The record is quite easy to find at any serious music shop in CD format, and CD price (or not too more expensive). They usually have one or two tracks having to do with take-offs or cruising. Maybe you're able to find a good airplane-specialized one... The sound decodifier is another (money) history.
Trident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
How about the film "Come Fly with Me" from 1963. It's more famous now for the theme song by Frank Sinatra than the plot. It concerns three(?) stewardesses one of them played by Lois Nettleton but I can't remember much more of the story. The opening titles appear over ground shots of Rome with an Alitalia and Aer Lingus Viscount in the background. I don't think there's too much in the way of authentic aircraft noise due to Mr Sinatra's warbling.
I really miss the sound of the old "straight" turbojets. They had a kind of hollow, ghostly wail to them. The nearest I've heard today are the surviving B-52's and funnily enough, the Il-86 sounds "old fashioned" when being started up.
FDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 36 Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1523 times:
Good pick Trident, one of my favorites. However I think the opening titles were filmed at the old Idlewild (pre JFK) airport in NY. Other locales include Paris and Vienna. A real golden age of jet transport movie, I heartily recommend it.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3505 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1523 times:
How about the movie "AIRPLANE"? Have you ever seen it?
The aircraft featured in this movie is the Boeing 707. The story is about a typical flight, flight 209, from Los Angeles to Chicago. During the flight, all pilots fall sick one after the other. Fortunately, one of the passengers who was a fighter pilot during the war agrees to take the controls of the Boeing although he had never flown one before. With the help of an airline captain at the control tower, he manages to land the aircraft in O'Hare at night in poor visibility.
A funny scene about this movie is in the cockpit just before take off when the captain reads back "Roger" on the radio, the flight engineer whose name was Roger turned his head and looked at the captain confused: "Euh..." he replies.
That's a good movie. One of the actors is Leslie Nielsen. It dates from the early 80's. Go to your nearest "Blockbuster video" and rent it if you haven't seen it. You'll enjoy it.
Fanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1498 times:
One film that comes to mind is Delta Force, which stars a beautiful old JT3C-powered 120-series 707. I cannot vouch for the authenticity of the film sound, however; feature films are notorious for mixing things up when it comes to civilian airliners! Definetely worth a try, if not for the visual shots.
The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2776 posts, RR: 16 Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1498 times:
In 'Good Morning Vietnam' (Robin Williams!) there are a couple shots of military DC-8s, I think you see one of them do a take off, though I don't recall much about the sound. In any case, the -8 is beautiful in that movie!
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Trident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1484 times:
Unfortunately, I think all the aircraft featured in the movie "Airport" are turbofan powered variants. Incidentally, the 707 that gets bogged down in the mud and blocks the runway was owned by Flying Tigers. After filming was completed, it was sold to Aer Lingus.
Another movie that features the 707 (turbofan again) is "Skyjacked", starring James Brolin as a deranged US Army officer who hi-jacks the 'plane to Russia. The aircraft is painted as the ficticious "Global Airlines", a name which I think is actually registered to Universal Studios as it has cropped up on a number of ocasions. I think the colour scheme on the 707 in "Skyjacked" was actually that of World Airways suitably disguised.
In the movie, the 707 is intercepted by F-84 Thunderjets painted up to look like Soviet fighters.
Has anyone ever seen a British film called "Out of the Clouds" ?. It was made in the 50's, in colour, and features London Heathrow and lots of BOAC Stratocruisers and DC-7's etc. The most famous actor in it is James Robertson-Justice (the gruff surgeon in "Doctor in the House").
The other day, on TCM, (a Ted Turner cablechannel), a movie was shown called "10,000 Bedrooms". It starred Dean Martin and opened with shots of a BOAC DC-7 (G-AOIC) at Rome. It dated from the late 50's.
DL_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1851 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1481 times:
MSP is definitely "Lincoln International" in "Airport"--It freaked me out when I walked into that terminal. I can't think of any turbojet movies off hand, but I do know a few others. 1) "Dog Day Afternoon"-Modern Air CV-990 2) "Boeing,Boeing"-some Caravelles and 707's 3) "Beverly Hillbillies (t.v.)"- Pan AM 707's Question : What was the film where the A/C landed at DEN and there was a bomb in the pilot's flight kit?
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FDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 36 Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1473 times:
I just remembered, the best movie that showed how loud the old engines were is to rent the film "Easy Rider". The setting is the threshhold of the runway at LAX towards the beginning of the movie with DC8's, 707's and 727's taking off and landing. If you want to hear what they used to sound like, this is must see.