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Width Of Premium Economy And Business Class  
User currently offlineEastern727200 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

I have flown Internation Business a few times with upgrades and domestic first many times but was considering premium economy for a few transatlantic flights I will be taking. I have tried seat guru etc but cannot get any specs on seat width of these seats and If British Airways or Virgin are basically offering a regular economy width seat with a few inches more legroom and padding (like some euro chartes do), I'm wondering if its worth it. I have read that Virgins seats are wider than BA's premuim economy. Anyone flown both or have any experiences they can share?

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User currently offlinePaul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

The seats are wider on both carriers, BA claim they offer 20% more space than regular economy. I have never flwn WT+ however I hear that for the extra money it is well worth the investment. Regarding Virgin Atlantic Premium Economy. The cost is consideraly more (normally) however the service is much better than regular economy with Champagne and extra goodies on board and at the airport; Lounges, check in!

happy flying

Paul



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Virgin Atlantic:

Economy 32" pitch 17.5" width
Premium 38" pitch 20" width

British Airways:

Economy 31" pitch 17.5" width
Premium 38" pitch 18.5" width

Both seats have more recline than the economy seats and both have dedicated cabins.

On VS A340s however (both -300 and -600) there is no lav in the PE cabin, so you have to go back to economy.

I have flown the premium economy classes of both airlines and would say that premium economy on the Virgin A340-300 is really not that great, no leg rest, tattered seats on the planes I was on (VBUS, the eldest 340 and VSUN) as well as what I thought was tasteless cabin design and haphazard placement of red and blue seat covers. In addition, I didn't particularly fancy the Kylie Minogue taxiing music. The seat was wider than BA's, but there was no leg rest.

However, Virgin's Premium Economy is a more separate product. There is dedicated check-in and separate luggage tags for instance. You also get more miles (1.5x vs 1.25x).

Having said all that, I still prefer BA's product. I found the seat more comfortable to sit in and the service better...nevermind the champagne or orange juice you get before takeoff on Virgin...it would lousy anyway. In addition, you have the pleasure of flying with RB211s on BA's 744s, which is a key factor for me.

I forgot what the original thread was asking now, but I think that both are worth it from an absolute perspective, but it depends on how much more the price is. Typically WT+ is a few hundred more, and Virgin's is perhaps 500 more, coming from LAX to LHR anyway. I'd say that is worth it, but if you're going to fly on Virgin, make sure to avoid the 343s and get on the 744 or 346.

Anything else I can answer let me know. In fact I think I'll go and dig up a trip report that I wrote on this and will post it here momentarily.



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3472 times:

Here are some trip reports that might interest you:

My Virgin 343 PE experience, LAX-LHR on G-VBUS

Jkw777's trip report on VS 7 LHR-LAX on a 744

Frequentflier's JFK-LHR experience in PE on VS

Frequent Flier's LHR-JFK flight on VS in PE

BA025's trip in WT+ on BA



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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

Quoting Paul (Reply 1):
The cost is consideraly more (normally) however the service is much better than regular economy with Champagne and extra goodies on board and at the airport; Lounges, check in!

No lounges for VS PE, although priority check-in and baggage handling are a good addition to the product.

BA Club World width is 20"
BA WT+ is 18.5"
BA WT is 17.5"

www.seatexpert.com gives many seat specs



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