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Etihad And The A340-500?  
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3767 posts, RR: 19
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

Has Etihad ordered the A340-500, or does the airline have plans to operate the aircraft?

On the Etihad website there is a pic. of a A340-500 in Etihad colours!

http://www.etihadairways.com/Present...8622E1-40E7-45BF-A4F6-00B621D01A46

Where would the 345 fly to, similar routes as EK I take it?

Rob!

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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

If you want a global network operating out of the gulfstates you will need the A350 one day. From Europe for example every destination can be reached by A340 and A330, but the Gulf region is just to far from the USA for example. Plus it's a very hot environment, which will have it's toll on the MTOW.

KL911


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6887 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Has Etihad ordered the A340-500, or does the airline have plans to operate the aircraft?

They've ordered four A340-500s and four A340-600s. (And, for the record, five 777-300ERs.)

Quoting KL911 (Reply 1):
If you want a global network operating out of the gulfstates you will need the A350 one day. From Europe for example every destination can be reached by A340 and A330, but the Gulf region is just to far from the USA for example.

Uh? Will the A350 have greater range than the A345? And why the A350 as opposed to, say, the 777 family or 787? Is that a typo?


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3767 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5792 times:

Thanks PM, any idea on when deleivery will begin for the new a/c?

How many 332's have they ordered aswell?

Rob!


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6887 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5759 times:

Rob

Not sure of the delivery dates though I think they'll start arriving in 2006.

I think it's 12 firm orders for 332s (with Trent 700s) plus the ones they have already leased - some with Trents and some with PW4000.

Cheers

Peter


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5131 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 2):
Uh? Will the A350 have greater range than the A345? And why the A350 as opposed to, say, the 777 family or 787? Is that a typo?

OOps, sorry, I mean the 340-500......


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5620 times:
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Does Etihad enjoy high load factors like EK, or are they struggling to get people on board. They have fairly stiff competition from EK...


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User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5542 times:

Etihad in general have pretty good load factors. There are 1 or 2 routes that suffer from poor loading, but they are still quite new.

As far as their aircraft go, the A330-200's start arriving this month (27th). There is a pic on this site of the first RR powered machine, which will be subsequently registered as A6-EYD. I imagine that as the new-build machines start arriving, they will return the leased 330's.

The 5 B777-300ERs are scheduled for delievery in October (2) and November (3) I believe...

A340-500 and A340-600 I have heard are scheduled for late 2006 onwards...

I guess good targets for the A345 will be Australia and North America. There are not hints at Oz yet, and I hear Toronto is on the cards, but with a stop in Brussels first... I do not know if they will make Toronto a non-stop with the A345...

Cheers
BAW128



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3767 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

Etihad will also get some ex Volar GE A330-200's!

Hows London (LGW & LHR) loads, EY send the 343 to LGW and 2x 332's to LHR quite a lot?

Rob!


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5461 times:

There were some EY people at MAN not that long ago, so that could be on their list for expansion as more capacity comes on stream.

As ever the problem is gate space and timing. Plenty of runway but not enough stands, especially in the morning.


User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4763 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5402 times:
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why do they fly to LGW and LHR? isn't it unsual for a non Euro carrier to fly to both?

[Edited 2005-05-15 19:12:25]

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

Hi Rob,

The 2 ex-Volare A332's have arrived back from painting in Filton. EI-DIP had some maintenance done in Bordeaux.

They are, A6-EYV (I think former EI-DIR) and ED-DIP (shortly to enter service under A6-EYW).

Cheers
BAW128

[Edited 2005-05-15 19:40:59]


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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5344 times:

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 10):
why do they fly to LGW and LHR? isn't it unsual for a non Euro carrier to fly to both?

American and Emirates are just two who operate from both airports for different reasons. Others have in the past. Continental also operated out of STN and LGW at one point (and may do again).


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4772 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

EYs flights to LHR do well according to industry sources. It has managed to kick out GF in the AUH-CMB, AUH-BEY markets!!! Supposedly too their BKK flights see v good loads but yields arent that gr8 on that route.

User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5257 times:

LHR and LGW flights by EK and EY are charged differently. LGW flights are always cheaper, however if you are connecting or want closer and faster access to london then you would go for LHR and pay the extra cost.

Last year I flew with EY and they had an amazing offer on LGW that was not avialable on LHR

Even EK sometimes does nice offers on LGW and the loads are quite high


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3767 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5252 times:

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 10):
why do they fly to LGW and LHR? isn't it unsual for a non Euro carrier to fly to both?

Same happens in New York, VS, BA, AI, AF, LH... both serve JFK and EWR!

I think the only carriers (non-European) to serve both LHR and LGW are EK,QR,EY and AA!

I heard EY also have plans to serve BHX!

Rob!


User currently offlineBoeing777300 From North Korea, joined Jan 2004, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

The main reason that American Airlines fly from both LHR and LGW is due to the current restrictions in force between the UK and the US regarding flying rights. As far as I am aware it is not permitted to fly direct between certain cities such as Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte, Houston, Raleigh/Durham and others into LHR, BA for the same reason have the same problem.

Emirates now operate 7 daily flights DXB-LON-DXB, split 4/3 between LHR and LGW. Perhaps the main reason for the split is lack of slots at LHR, however I am sure there is a lot feed in to and out of US bound flights at LGW for EK and to a certain degree EY as well.

If the open skies agreement between the UK/US is ever negotiated to a true free for all, I would expect most US airlines to desert LGW for LHR along with BA's US flights. What would then become of LGW? Who knows, maybe it will be renamed London Easyjet!!



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User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4803 times:

BA flies from Heathrow to Houston via Chicago O'hare and go non stop to Gatwick.

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