Wingedarrow From Italy, joined May 2005, 169 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6645 times:
A couple of months ago, I've been told by an airline representative that China Airlines is the next suitable candidate to join the Skyteam Alliance. In the recent past there were rumors about Aeroflot joining the group thanks to their agreements with Air France. Does anybody know something more about what airline could probably be added to Skyteam?
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 48 Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6595 times:
Aeroflot will be the next one to join. They have already signed a MOU, and will officially join later this year. Following them is likely China Southern. They (along with Air China and China Eastern) have long wanted to join an alliance, but "higher powers" blocked such moves. China Airlines is another candidate, however I think it could be a problem to have a Chinese and a Taiwanese airline in the same alliance. About EK, I doubt that. While they do have some codeshares and agreements, they prefer to do their flying on their own, as is obvious with their continuesly huge expansion.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7425 posts, RR: 43 Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6403 times:
I really hope MH will join the alliance soon. It will help SkyTeam improve its coverage of Southeast Asia and Oceania. I don't know if Aeroflot will join soon, but China Southern has been repeatedly mentioned. Other airlines that have been mentioned are CM (but now it's uncertain whether it will join since CO might sell its stake in CM), UX (probably unfounded rumors) and AV. Maybe an airline from Africa would be a nice addition as well. The latest rumor is that Brazilian LCC Gol will join but I find that hard to believe.
Wingedarrow, I see you are new to a.net so I want to welcome you to the forums. I hope that you will enjoy beginning threads, posting replies and watching the pictures as much as I have since I joined. Look forward to reading your opinions.
NonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6283 times:
Quoting Aseem (Reply 12): a very good proposition. The best airlines in Africa after SA. Skyteam should start making inroad in Africa, unless they want to realize its potential at the very last moment.
Agreed, tho what I think is holding them back is Africa is already covered well enuff with AF and KLM, plus they don't serve the US yet. If I had to rank potential members tho, they'd be at the top of my list.
Malev may have some type of association too, we'll see.
Malaysia would bring in the Australasian continent, which is not covered yet
Avianca maaaaaaay have a slim clance along with Copa, other than that, anything else named here is a pipe dream.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6225 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 11): Freddie, I dunno about TAM. As much as I'd love to see them in SkyTeam, it seems they could go with oneworld instead.
Their relationship with AA has been stand-offish at best, and they'd have the advantage of being the only SkyTeam member in S.America (barring Avianca) should they strengthen their ties with AF and then join.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7425 posts, RR: 43 Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6198 times:
But I believe that their relationship with AF is not that good either. I am not sure about it but it seems that AF is angered by the fact that JJ is adding more CDG-GRU frequencies. Hopefully someone from Brazil can give more details (despite my flag, I am not Brazilian, nor do I live there).
Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 14): Wouldn't AT be suitable enough to cover up Northern Africa? Or Africa as well?
Africa is covered well with AF and KLM.
Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 14): Otherwise I think SkyTeam should focus on the Asian network which needs a tiny bit more attention
With Korean, China Southern, and possibly Malaysian, I think it's covered. Australia and South America are the only holes in the network.
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 15): Their relationship with AA has been stand-offish at best, and they'd have the advantage of being the only SkyTeam member in S.America (barring Avianca) should they strengthen their ties with AF and then join.
If an airline is gonna represent South America in SkyTeam, it'll be Avianca, that that's still a long shot. TAM isn't on the radar.
Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 51 Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5953 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 16): am not sure about it but it seems that AF is angered by the fact that AM-Transportes Aereos Meridionais (Brazil)">JJ is adding more CDG-GRU frequencies. Hopefully someone from Brazil can give more details
I would love to see TAM part of Syteam.
TAM would be a major addition to SkyTeam, and AF has tried very hard to attract TAM to Sky. TAM now is the biggest domestic airline in Brazil, with 40% market share. TAM as a member of Sky would boost Sky operations in Brazil, which currently have the folllowing flights: AF - 2 daily; KL - 1 daily; CO - 2 daily; DL - 3 daily; AZ - 1 daily; AM - 1 daily Total: 10 daily flights to Brazil. [CZ - operates 2 x week charters to Northeast Brazil].
However, TAM is much closer to OW because of its important association with AA, and AA's MIA hub is vital for TAM. That's why at the end there are strong indications that TAM will decide to join OW instead...sad news...
Wingedarrow From Italy, joined May 2005, 169 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5833 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 7): Wingedarrow, I see you are new to a.net so I want to welcome you to the forums. I hope that you will enjoy beginning threads, posting replies and watching the pictures as much as I have since I joined. Look forward to reading your opinions.
Thanks a lot, EddieDude, that's very kind of you. I've surfed on a.net for a long time before deciding to register and I'm glad I'll have forum mates like you!
[Edited 2005-05-16 13:43:10]
25 Wingedarrow: I don't want to appear parochial, MauriceB, but I think Alitalia seems to be doing fine in the Skyteam Alliance. We've just started a new codeshare a
26 KEno: MH has a total of 54 flights a week to Australasia, serving SYD, MEL, BNE, PER, ADL & AKL. The first two on the list are served twice daily. KE on th
27 Zone1: MH already has codeshare agreements with DL and KE. They are probably going to be number three in joining SkyTeam, behind China Southern and Aeroflot.
28 WorldXplorer: What about Qatar Airways? Their network is impressive, their fleet is new, the service is excellent (from what I here, I have not flown them), and sev
29 KEno: MH only codeshares with KL & KE. There are no DL nor NW flights that carry MH codes, or vice versa. DL's Skymiles members however, can accrue mileage
30 NonRevKing: CZ and SU are for sure going to join. They've already been invited, so they are the only sure things. Let that be clear. Kenya has a lot of potential
31 Afay1: Aeroflot has a press release from May 12, 2005 on its website annoucing codesharing on the SVO-MXP route and describes it as another step towards Skyt
32 MEA330: NonRevKing Working for Delta is not enough to negate everybody else's analysis on future SkyTeam partners.This is an internet forum and everybody has
33 RCS763AV: About TAM. Very unlikely. Pathetic international network and more ties with AA than AF. About UX its been rumoured. MH has a tough relationship with A
34 NonRevKing: Your right, this is an internet forum. Where people can spout off whatever they want with no basis in fact, and those with actual information are que
35 Hjulicher: Aeroflot would have already joined except that they do not meet the skyteam entrance requirements, which is what hinders their invitation. Yes, they a
36 Hardiwv: What do you mean "pathetic"? TAM and its subsidiary TAM Mercosur operate flights to Paraguay, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Bolivia plus two daily fligh
37 MauriceB: with all the respect , but AZ isn't doing fine at all..... they had money from the government and they are going to need a new plan, wich is already
38 Chinaeastern: any possibility than Air Tahiti Nui might join that alliance as well?
39 JoyA380B747: Hey Guys, You must have missed out Jet Airways. It has a lot of probability to join the SkyTeam although I've learnt on the Forum that it may join STA