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Delta Applies For MCO-CUN  
User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3663 times:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf92/330015_web.pdf
The proposed daily service would start November 1st, using Boeing 737-800 aircraft.
Now, 2 things come to mind:
First, this would be Delta's 4 daily 738 flight to CUN (plus a daily 763 and a SaSu 738).
Second, didn't Air Tran apply for this route as well? Oh, what a coincidence (not that I don't like it).

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3654 times:
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Yes Airtran applied why else would DL want it?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33038 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Thread starter):
Second, didn't Air Tran apply for this route as well? Oh, what a coincidence (not that I don't like it).

AirTran applied for Saturday service, Spirit applied for daily service, and Pan Am applied for service form Stanford (which counts the same as MCO for a designated carrier). So four airlines have applied, only two will get it. It is DEN/DTW/STL-CUN all over again.



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
AirTran applied for Saturday service, Spirit applied for daily service, and Pan Am applied for service form Stanford

Small correction: It's Sanford  Wink . Nice little airport btw. Honestly, I think this is only a three-way fight, as I can't see Pan Am MkIII.5 getting that route. Also, I'd say Spirit and Delta have an advantage over FL and PA, seeing as they want to operate daily service, and not just once weekly.


User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Why doesn't DL apply for MCO-MEX? And why did they drop LAX-MEX, and why did they never fly DFW-MEX when they still had the hub there?


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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4):
and why did they never fly DFW-MEX when they still had the hub there?

They did with CRJ's. Service only lasted about 6 months, if that. It was OH's entrance to the DFW hub.

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4):
Why doesn't DL apply for MCO-MEX?

This is an attempt to prevent FL from running the route. DL has a list of routes they plan to serve and certain events cause that list to change. DL has no need to MCO-MEX city when AM does it 4x per week already. DL puts its code on the AM flight.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25413 posts, RR: 86
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3396 times:
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Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4):
Why doesn't DL apply for MCO-MEX?

Because CUN is presently the goose laying golden eggs for the airlines - so they are going to kill the goose.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 5):
They did with CRJ's. Service only lasted about 6 months, if that. It was OH's entrance to the DFW hub.

See I don't get that...they couldn't fill up a 738 for that route...even with AM codesharing?



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13643 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3226 times:
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Because CUN is presently the goose laying golden eggs for the airlines

Is it? Most of the traffic I see to/from CUN are bulk/wholesale fares negotiated at fares far below the normal published rates.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25413 posts, RR: 86
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3222 times:
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Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
Most of the traffic I see to/from CUN are bulk/wholesale fares negotiated at fares far below the normal published rates.

Then I guess we're seeing different things.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33038 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Two things about Delta's application:

1) Delta will not be the first airline to fly MCO-CUN. Mexicana flew it for years in the late 1990s/early 2000s.
2) Delta actually says that one of the big benefits is that passengers can combine a Walt Disney World vacation with a Cancun vacation on one airline. Since, after all, so many people take annual Disney+Cancun getaways.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

A longshot if there ever was one, but Delta should forget about MCO-CUN and apply for MSY-CUN. Have the aircraft route SLC-MSY-CUN or something of the sort.

The twice-weekly 727 charters this summer are booked to at least 150 for every flight. The last flight went out with 162 pax and 200 bags. An untapped, highly patronized market to say the least with no competition.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 11):
A longshot if there ever was one, but Delta should forget about MCO-CUN and apply for MSY-CUN. Have the aircraft route SLC-MSY-CUN or something of the sort.

Hell Steve, your airline should be running that route. Given the loads I see you guys put onto the planes from MSY, F9 is getting a name there and would benefit from MSY-CUN.



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 12):
Given the loads I see you guys put onto the planes from MSY, F9 is getting a name there and would benefit from MSY-CUN.

Not to mention that CUN is a focus city (sort of) for F9, but should F9 start that route, it would likely be saturday-only service, as is the case on all non-DEN Mexico routes. Delta on the other hand would likely be daily service, using a 738. There are no signs indicating such a service, but most people didn't expect the twice-daily MSY-RDU service either.


User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4):
and why did they never fly DFW-MEX when they still had the hub there?

Delta mainline did fly nonstop from DFW to both Mexico City and Acapulco during the DFW hub's peak in the early 1990s.


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

And the chess match continues...

I know that DL wants to protect it's interests, but I'm wondering if it is slighly a retaliation for NK's annnounced MCO-NAS route to start in Nov.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 13):
but most people didn't expect the twice-daily MSY-RDU service either.

1. And how goes that service? 2. When are the E70 to enter service? 3. When would those routes be likely uploaded?



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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 16):
2. When are the E70 to enter service?

Looks like 08/01/05.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 16):
3. When would those routes be likely uploaded?

Shouldn't be much longer now. I would guess the first saturday in June, but that is just a guess.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6775 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

Just to note..

On 15Jul05, RDU-TPA finally goes to 3x ASA CRJ daily (supposed to have happened in March)..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 11):
and apply for MSY-CUN.

...didn't they already fly that route, along with MSY-MAR?


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