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The Queen Does Not Fly Her Country's Airline?  
User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19602 times:

Ok, if you are not aware, the Queen of England is on a visit to Canada. But am amazed at the fact that she did not fly on an UK airline's aircraft, nor an RAF aircraft. Instead, she flew on a Canadian Forces A310! Does she not have her own aircraft? Or, where is BA in this situation?

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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19596 times:

Quoting ETStar (Thread starter):
Or, where is BA in this situation?

I believe her aircraft is sitting in museums never to fly again.


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19590 times:

AFAIK, there has been quite a wide range of transportation choices for the Queen's travels in recent years. On longer routes, she usually flies with BA (either 767's and 777's have been used in recent years to my knowledge), while on shorter routes, the RAF's Royal Flight still offers a few other choices, e.g. the BAe-146 and maybe even the good ol'e HS-748 (correct me if I am wrong). Contrary to some people's belief, the Concorde has not been the primary aircraft of coice for the Queen's overseas voyages.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19584 times:
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The royal family use BAE 146s for short haul and commercial airlines (some times BA and other times other airlines) for the other flights. She has flowen on RNZAF aircraft before, Prince Charles used an RNZAF B752 to fly to New Zealand from Australia, around New Zealand and to fly to Fiji from AKL. If the airline is the national carrier or an Air Force Aircraft of a commenwealth country then she and the rest of the gang will use them also

[Edited 2005-05-18 09:00:51]

User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19554 times:

Quoting ETStar (Thread starter):
Instead, she flew on a Canadian Forces A310! Does she not have her own aircraft?

You do realize that she is the head of state in Canada, that she is the "Queen of Canada," and that Canadian military personel take an oath of allegiance to her as the embodiment of Canadian sovereignty. BA or RAF aircraft would not be appropriate as this is not a state visit on behalf of Britain.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19537 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
maybe even the good ol'e HS-748

Those weren't actually HS748's, they were Andovers, which was a military adaptation of the old Budgie, with a rear ramp for loading Land-Rovers. The Royal Flight Andovers were retired yonks ago, when the BAe146's (are the called K1's by the RAF, something like that anyway) entered service.


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19512 times:

Please forgive my anecdotal memory, but didn't Charles manage to drive one of the Royal Flight BAe-146's into the bushes upon landing a couple of years ago? Big grin


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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19500 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 4):

You do realize that she is the head of state in Canada, that she is the "Queen of Canada," and that Canadian military personel take an oath of allegiance to her as the embodiment of Canadian sovereignty. BA or RAF aircraft would not be appropriate as this is not a state visit on behalf of Britain.

True... but it's not her country. Did she ALWAYS fly into Canada on an RAF aircraft? If so, then ok.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19492 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 6):
didn't Charles manage to drive one of the Royal Flight BAe-146's into the bushes upon landing a couple of years ago?

I think it was at Inverness (poss. Aberdeen) - somewhere in the land of the Picts anyway, I think he went off the end of the runway. Oops !


User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 19483 times:

I remember seeing the Queen fly to Rome on a BA A319 a few years back! Of course, it had been chartered  Smile


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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 19336 times:

As far as I am aware The Queen's air travel is dictated first by the security aspects and then by economics (unlike that golfing son of hers who uses the most expensive form on every trip - private and public).

The Queen's flight has a fleet of BAe146, which are used principally for short-haul trips for members of the Royal Family and certain VIPs. The Queen's flight is flown and maintained by an elite part of the RAF. If it is cheaper to charter a BA A319 (or any similar aircraft) than fly the BAe146s and crew (not to mention accommodating the crew at the destination and parking the plane for the duration of the trip), then the charter aircraft would be used

When The Queen is on state visits, it is normally the host country that pays for her travel and it would therefore be cheaper for them to use their own presidential aircraft, passenger-configured military aircraft or even their flag carrier.

[Edited 2005-05-18 10:32:44]


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User currently offlineBeany From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 19308 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 8):
I think it was at Inverness (poss. Aberdeen) - somewhere in the land of the Picts anyway, I think he went off the end of the runway. Oops !

It was on one of the Scottish Islands, I believe you are right in saying he overran. He doesn't fly anymore  Smile


User currently offlineWunala From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 19273 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 10):
When The Queen is on state visits, it is normally the host country that pays for her travel and it would therefore be cheaper for them to use their own presidential aircraft, passenger-configured military aircraft or even their flag carrier.

BCAL you beat me to it, this is what I believe too.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 19238 times:

She landed in Regina of all places, Good Lord!
Here's a question though. When she flies to Canada, does she have to fill out a declaration card? If yes, what would she write down for "What is the reason of your visit? Business, Pleasure or Study."?  scratchchin 



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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3167 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 19231 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
bowling alley, tennis courts at 40,000 ft

Sounds like the A380  Wink


User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19086 times:

Quoting BCAL (Reply 10):
When The Queen is on state visits, it is normally the host country that pays for her travel and it would therefore be cheaper for them to use their own presidential aircraft, passenger-configured military aircraft or even their flag carrier.

Is this a diplomatic convention that applies to most/all countries, or just Commonwealth or other countries that are receiving the Queen?

Rich

[Edited 2005-05-18 11:53:35]

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25076 posts, RR: 85
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19032 times:
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Quoting RedDragon (Reply 17):
Is this a diplomatic convention that applies to most/all countries, or just Commonwealth or other countries that are receiving the Queen?

I can't think of any similar protocol. The Queen is not going to Canada in her role as the British Head of State, or as a representative of the people of Britain, she is going as the Canadian Head of State, the representative of the Canadian people - she's making a visit with her own.

I can't think of another Head of State for whom this would be true.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 19031 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 14):
Here's a question though. When she flies to Canada, does she have to fill out a declaration card? If yes, what would she write down for "What is the reason of your visit? Business, Pleasure or Study."?

no -- she doesn't even have a passport. It would have to be an amended one anyway, as all the blurb states that 'Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary requests and requires in the name of Her Majesty etc blah etc blah'. It would be funny if it said 'My Secretary of State requests and requires in my name....' it would sound as if she was a boxer, gievn that those guys always seem to talk about themselves in the third person "Right now Lennox Lewis is thinking about Lennox Lewis"...



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18947 times:

Quoting ETStar (Thread starter):



Quoting ETStar (Thread starter):
Or, where is BA in this situation?

It should be noted that British Airways is a privatised company and thus, (irrespective of what some might like to believe) are not the NATIONAL airline of the United Kingdom.
By applying the same 'logic', does the President of the US fly United, AA, Delta or US Air? No, he doesn't!


User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18908 times:

I saw that A310 the other day, but didn't realise that it was canadas airforce.
Wow!

-lazyshaun-



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18849 times:

She flew on an NZ 744 when she came for a meeting here a few years back.

User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18770 times:

Quoting ETStar (Reply 7):
True... but it's not her country

actually, she is Queen of Canada: when she took the Coronation Oath, Elizabeth II swore "to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the Union of South Africa, Pakistan, and Ceylon, and of [her] Possessions and the other Territories to any of them belonging or pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs".

In Canada, the Queen's official title is Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 18728 times:

Quoting ETStar (Thread starter):
the Queen of England is on a visit to Canada. But am amazed at the fact that she did not fly on an UK airline's aircraft, nor an RAF aircraft. Instead, she flew on a Canadian Forces A310!

Aaaaargh! I've tried not to get into this since the very existence of a royal family makes my hackles rise (and yes, I am entitled to my opinion since I am British) but can we at least stop calling her the Queen of England. The last 'English' monarch was Richard III who died in 1485. He was followed by dynasties that were Welsh, Scottish and German. Elizabeth is no more (or less) the Queen of England than she is the Queen of Wales - or even Canada!

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 4):
You do realize that she is the head of state in Canada, that she is the "Queen of Canada," and that Canadian military personel take an oath of allegiance to her as the embodiment of Canadian sovereignty. BA or RAF aircraft would not be appropriate as this is not a state visit on behalf of Britain.

Thank you, atmx2000. You appear to be better informed that some of Liz's subjects north of the border.

Quoting BCAL (Reply 10):
The Queen's flight has a fleet of BAe146, which are used principally for short-haul trips for members of the Royal Family and certain VIPs. The Queen's flight is flown and maintained by an elite part of the RAF.

"A fleet"? Two, as far as I remember. And "elite"? They're a bunch of pilots. It's hardly the Red Arrows.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
Those weren't actually HS748's, they were Andovers, which was a military adaptation of the old Budgie, with a rear ramp for loading Land-Rovers.

They're long gone anyway but I don't believe they had the rear ramp. The Andovers that were used tactically certainly did but the Royal Flight planes (even if they were called Andover CC1s or whatever) were really just HS748s.


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18609 times:

The Queen doesn't always use BA. Back in the late 80s early 90s there was a tour of the US where a BA Concorde was refitted for the occassion.

The first commercial flight the Queen took was NZ001 and the First cabin was kept backa nd refitted for her and close aides while Business was used for accompanying staff such as journal keepers and so on. I only mention journal keepers because a friend of the family is one of them!

A cookie to anyone who can remember the name the Queen traveled under. Hint: It was nothing to do with Windsor/Saxe-Coburg etc etc



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18607 times:

When QE II visited NZ she boarded NZ B744 from LHR some years ago IIRC. She and her "followers" (dont remember the french word) had the upper deck in private.

Wish I could fly like that!

Micke//SE Big grin



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25 Spyderz : Well whenever members of the royal family fly to Canada they are usually fly in the Canadian Forces 310 that the queen flew in. This is usually the ca
26 MasseyBrown : How does she travel to her horse farm in Kentucky as a private citizen? I believe those trips are very low-key.
27 Shamrock350 : I see her BAe-146s almost every day at RAF Northholt. I once watched Airport on BBC1 and she was flying on a BA A319.
28 Post contains images JGPH1A : "Dear Diary, Today We opened something, and waved at a lot of people. Our hat was lovely, but Our subjects are very noisy, and many of them smell. Ha
29 Iakobos : to make some Picts happy they could have added "sheperdess of the flock" and "guardian of the barrels"
30 RayChuang : I think when the Queen goes on many long-distance tours she could fly a BA 777-200ER that can be configured for the needs of such travel. The 777-200E
31 Wunala : Give up, even Google failed me, what is it?
32 Post contains images Bhxforever : Fbg, Someones been watching old episodes of airport
33 Post contains images RedDragon : That's a hell of a lot of hats for one day... d'you think she wore them concurrently, in some kind of leaning tower of Windsor?
34 AussieItaliano : I can't believe that they still use this title for the British Monarch. That's just so wrong!
35 JGPH1A : That's why they do it ! To rub it in. The title was awarded by Pope Leo the Something to Henry VIII for his robust editorials denouncing Luther and a
36 BCAL : The definition of a fleet is a number of buses, aircraft, etc. under the control of one person or organization. Two is a number and therefore two air
37 Post contains images KLMA330 : I have the outmost respect for our Queen.. yes, I am Canadian, and do consider her Our Queen. She gave up her life for the Monarchy, and watched the E
38 AussieItaliano : KLMA330, I completely agree with you. I have a great deal of respect for the Monarchy, but I do view it as a slap in the face to us Catholics when the
39 KLMA330 : AussiItaliano I can see your point in this. I always thought she used the title as leader of the Anglican church, but wasn't aware of the background y
40 CayMan : You are entitled to have respect for her personally, as I do. Now as a figurehead in the canadian system with which she clearly has absolutely nothin
41 USAFHummer : The Queen is a smoker? He has in the past! Greg
42 JGPH1A : Why ? Most people outside Canada wouldn't recognise the Canadian PM if he fell in their lunch. I think he could have travelled to Morocco via PAR, an
43 DOC : As you know, when the queen is invited to a country, like now the Canada, the country hote is responsible to go and pick her up, at the end of her vis
44 Sacflyer : I find that hard to believe, have you seen his ears?
45 Post contains images KLMA330 : I know I'm going to get blasted for this, and keep in mind both my best friends are from Quebec, and as I tell them when this issue arises, the Frenc
46 Fbgdavidson : Coupled with a good memory... She flew under the name Mrs J Muir
47 HeyMach : Not quite - it is matter of protocol. In this case the Queen is traveling as the Head of State of Canada and therefore her transportation is the resp
48 Post contains images CXYYZ : Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Armed Forces' A310s were acquired from CP to help them out during one of their many tough times, were they not? Also,
49 DL021 : I love it when we discuss the Queen and her subjects get all riled up about it! Nah, read below. She is not making a state visit on behalf of the UK.
50 Post contains images Beany : No she isn't - Harry is though, as well as doing other things
51 YYZYYT : yeah... in 1763, 1980 and (barely) in 1995.
52 Post contains links FlyfromZRH : Tristar500: Charles crashed his plane on Islay - he was on his way to visit Laphroaig distillery. http://www.argyllonline.co.uk/index.asp?id=25
53 HeyMach : Nope - in a monarchy the monarch is not a citizen, instead we are the monarchs subjects. Thankfully, this convention in monarchy is slowly changing w
54 CayMan : Not correct so far as relates to Canada---1947 Citizenship Act ended Canadians being "subjects" and were thereafter Canadian citizens. As the Queen r
55 Post contains links and images Boeing764 : I remember the Queen coming to visit Canada many years ago on an RCAF 707. Also Prince Edward and Sophie Rhys-Jones came to Edmonton on August 3, 2001
56 Post contains images European : Hello This is her plane cya Jimmi
57 Starlionblue : Except, ironically, two rather prominent nations of which she is head of state: Australia and New Zealand.
58 Post contains images Arkhem : How very pint sized! J for John? The conservationist...?
59 Lnglive1011yyz : Personally, I find this an extremely high honour for the Canadian Forces. To have a Royal individual fly on their armed forces airforce planes, is qu
60 MissedApproach : One of our planes is usually over there flying supplies to Bosnia/Afghanistan anyway, & they usually stop to refuel somewhere in the UK. It's too eas
61 Jonty : Wouldn't it just be "I request all those whim it may concern to allow me to pass freely without let or hinderance, and afford to me such assistance a
62 Ckfred : Wouldn't the Queen travel on a diplomatic passport? I don't think she would actually carry it, but I know that the President of the United States is i
63 KLMA330 : Very well said! What happens after the Queen passes on is left to debate. Personally, I would like to see William succeed, for his of a similar age t
64 AirbusfanYYZ : As Cayman pointed out there is a real disconnect between reality and ceremony. She's no longer relevant in any way other than a reminder of the histor
65 Bennett123 : The point is that when they say "Defender of the faith" they never say which faith. It seems a bit serreal Henry VIII surpressing the Protestants. It
66 Kahala777 : And what President was that? Regards - Kahala777
67 YYZIAN : She actually flew in on Wardair! The Air Force A310s are all ex Wardair from the 1980s bought by the Government (from Canadian Airlines)...
68 Olympicbis : I thought the Queen was flight an HP42... Hopefully Charles is not going to try and land it !
69 Tundra767 : Nixon flew on a UAL DC-10 there was an article about it in Airways or Airlines. Was during the fuel crisis in the 70's.
70 Post contains images Texdravid : What are you the chief propagandist for the monarchy?!! Man, that paragraph was one big sloppy kiss for the House of Windsor!
71 Post contains links and images AirOrange : Our queen, Her Majesty Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, flies the globe around (including fuel stops) with her Fokker 70, the PH-KBX (Koningin Beatri
72 Klyk1980 : I am Canadian, with Canadian and British passport. She is our Queen and the Head of State. I think most Canadian pay respect to her.
73 Knighty : She flew home from here on her last trip (I think it was her last) from Perth, the QF9 (MEL-SIN-LHR) was diverted to Perth to pick her up and take her
74 Post contains images Biggles : Me too ! I'm looking forward to her visit to Calgary next week .
75 Olympus69 : To return to the main topic for a minute. Yesterday (May 18), a BAe146 of the Queen's Flight was at YYZ. It departed to an unknown (to me) destination
76 Post contains images KLMA330 : I don't expect you to understand my American friend, so don't bother
77 Biggles : According to CBC, Prince Phillip is visiting Mildred Lake gravel airstrip near Fort McMurray .I wonder what he'll flying to get there ? The Party will
78 GDB : Queenie's travel arrangements are like the PM's, a range of options to whatever is best suited. In the past, she has used RAAF 707's, a Canadian A310
79 Tundra767 : Interesting..Thanks for that
80 LJ : Then she's lucky. The Dutch Queen does have a passport (like all the other Dutch royals) and she has to present it upon check in (needless to say som
81 Post contains images Jmc757 : What does de facto mean?
82 RedDragon : In practice (as opposed to de jure, or "by law"). Rich
83 NYCAAer : Actually, President Bush flew an American B737-800 for his first inaugural in January 2001. He flew nonstop from Austin to Washington, and the plane
84 Meerkat : I was lucky enough to go onboard one of the Queen's Flight planes at RAF Northolt in the (less terrorist wary) 80s. I was at school with the son of a
85 FlyCaledonian : It pains me to see show much lack of knowledge regarding history! PM, yes it is wrong to call Elizabeth II Queen of England, but Richard III wasn't th
86 Post contains images JGPH1A : Ta for the correction - I thought it was later than that. Possibly (since it was after all George III) they need the space for his new self-declared
87 FlyCaledonian : Nah, though he did see various changes to his titles! When he came to the throne he was King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, King of France, K
88 RedDragon : Good post FlyCaledonian - although one point did make me think: I wonder exactly how vast a majority? I don't know the figures from the census but I'd
89 Post contains images JGPH1A : But gained Australia and South Africa and kept hold of Canada, so I think on balance he did pretty well
90 Post contains images Jmc757 : Cheers. Well, regardless of whether we have a national airline or not, I think there is only one carrier the Queen should use!!!
91 Post contains images RedDragon : It'd be very apt, but somehow I don't think she'd appreciate the convenience of being able to travel with 179 of her aides and entourage all on one A3
92 Post contains links and images DIJKKIJK : She is known to use the DC-10 on long haul trips. View Large View MediumPhoto © Martin Boschhuizen - AirTeamImages View Large View MediumPhoto &
93 Post contains images FlySSC : I know the reason for this : QEII prefers AIRBUS !!! That would be a great new slogan for Airbus : Queens fly Airbus ...
94 Post contains images DIJKKIJK : She should fly one of Virgin's A340s then. or maybe she doesn't want to be seen flying "Virgin"
95 FlyCaledonian : DIJKKIJK, The Queen might fly Virgin, but it was Queen Elizabeth I who was known as the Virgin Queen! (Hence Virginia, named in her honour) A few mont
96 DIJKKIJK : Were RAF's lovely VC-10s ever used to transport royalty?
97 AussieItaliano : Then he wasn't president at the time though. He was on his way to be president.
98 GDB : When the VC-10's had more transport tasking, they flew the Queen quite a lot as well as Prime Ministers. Since the early 1990's, they have got wing re
99 Argonaut : This has nothing to do with the forum. But we're a pernickity lot, so I have to point out that, yes, the Queen indeed does smoke. (Unless she's given
100 Argonaut : Actually, the RAF wasn't first. Oddly enough (in view of the Canadian flavour of this thread) it was the Royal Canadian Air Force who got there ahead
101 Post contains images CXYYZ : Fascinating thread folks! Quite a few interesting facts brought up. DIJKKIJK, is that a Skyteam logo on the front of those DC-10s? j/k
102 Olympus69 : The CBC early evening news has just shown the Queen boarding a Voyageur Airways Dash 8-300. I wasn't paying close attention, but I believe she was hea
103 Jetdeltamsy : i thought the old girl always flew BA. learn something new on anet everyday!
104 SkyexRamper : Well how many US Presidents have flown the airlines? Also whats wrong with flying on a Canadian Air Force airbus, they are the hosting country so the
105 YYZ-Barry : I would add to the discussion - the Queen flies to and from Canada on Canadian aircraft as she is travelling as the Canadian Head of State. I remember
106 Post contains images Mariner : Actually, I always heard she drank it, as tea, and it was "medical marijuana" - she used it to relieve her menstrual cramps. cheers mariner
107 Post contains links and images RickYHM : The Royal's do cross the pond in "Royal Flight" aircraft. A BAe-146, ZE700 (cn E1021) came to Canada to the "Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum" in Ham
108 YYZ4RADD : queenie is not he queen of ceylon (sri lanka) anymore although the people there still respect British traditions and culture a lot and also most speak
109 Finkenwerder : Technically old boy this is her aircraft, The Queen remains titular head of State for Canada unless thats changed since the last time I checked Debre
110 Biggles : She flew from Regina (YQR) to Jasper (YJA) , a grass strip,normally restricted to acft weighing 12,500 lbs or less.Grass strips are usually quite sof
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