Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4087 times:
Following an article by Reuters, the Syrian minister of Transport,Makram Obeid, has confirmed talks with Airbus regarding an order for seven aircraft.
No details were given ,but the fleet of Syrianair is relatively old and in need of modernisation.
Due to a ban on the export of hightech equipment to Syria,chances for Boeing to sell aircaraft to Damascus are close to zero...
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4124 posts, RR: 37 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4075 times:
I bet on 3 A-330s to replace the 2 747SPs and expand a bit, and 6 A-319/320s to replace the remaining 727s and the one/two Tupolevs which are still in service.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day ago) and read 3799 times:
Damascus airport is not really known as a transit -paradise...
Syrian airport authorities would have to change a lot to attract more connecting traffic via Syria - although syrians are a very hospital people ( within their country I speak ...) and have a great lot of attractions to show in Syria.
Visa-requirements and complicated administrative hurdles would have to be demolished before you can sell Syria as transit country.
C680 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 531 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 3698 times:
Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter): Due to a ban on the export of hightech equipment to Syria,chances for Boeing to sell aircaraft to Damascus are close to zero...
I though quite a bit of the avionics in one of those Airbus lines was made in USA. How does the high tech ban work in that case? Is it OK because Honeywell (or whoever it is - If I'm even correct) first sold it to Airbus, and then they are re-exporting it to Syria?
Tommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 911 posts, RR: 24 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 3187 times:
Quoting C680 (Reply 10): I though quite a bit of the avionics in one of those Airbus lines was made in USA. How does the high tech ban work in that case?
The embargo works like that when it comes to Iran.
Affecting Iran Air, who now can't buy newer Boeing or Airbus aircraft.
What/Where is the difference ??
Tommy Mogren
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Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 7 hours ago) and read 3159 times:
Quoting Tommy Mogren (Reply 17): The embargo works like that when it comes to Iran.
Affecting Iran Air, who now can't buy newer Boeing or Airbus aircraft.
If some Airbus -models contain a large amount of US made gear, that gear can be replaced by european made gear !
For market accessibility it is advisable to incoroprate US made added value in any Airbus-plane sold to the USA or elswhere.
But Airbus can basically build a fully european aircraft without helping hands from US hightech companies.
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3105 times:
In my opinion ther are several degrees of embargo and Iran probabely like Cuba and North Corea are at the very top of the restrictive scale.
Syria is on an embargo list of the US dept. of Trade and Commerce but I doubt that they fall into the same cat as Iran.
Regarding a fully european version of Airbus - it is technically feasable but would most likely imply additional work ,research and budgets to replace the existing combination of avioncs,electronics and hydraulics with a europeanized ,sanitized version.
Would not make sense for a small number of aircraft but be worthwile for a larger order.
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3027 times:
Quoting Tommy Mogren (Reply 21): But then again, that list is constantly changed to fit the US needs....
How much do we really know about the "Bad Guys " in Syria ?
I have been there quite a few times and always had a warm welcome...
My understanding is that you should not talk to lebanese about syrians but from there putting them at the same level as the North Coreans seems a little far fetched...
And implying ,like Condaleeza does, that Damascus is behind terror attacks in Iran is one of these allegations nobody can proof....
Please respect animals - don't eat them...
25 Tommy Mogren: It's not a matter of what we think about them. It's all about what the US gvmt thinks.... After Iraq, I wondered who'd be next in the world.... If 7
26 NA: Syrianair´s SPs are 29 years old by now, an impressive age for an airliner still in its original hands. They´ll past 30 when replaced. Well done. An
28 OHLHD: Thanks Tommy. Does anybody know for how long they will remain the fleet?
29 HEGAN: The article says (if my French doesn't lie me) the order will be composed by 7 aircrafts: 4 middle-sized and 3 for high capacity. So it could be 4 A32
30 FlySSC: It also says the actual fleet is composed by 14 aircraf, 6 of them A300 (ordered in 1999). With this new order, Syrian will have a very young fleet,
31 Chazzerguy: Not current as of today, but the two Syrain SPs had the following cycles/hours as of 2003: YK-AHA: 18485/43742 YK-AHB: 18876/44563 That's really not
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