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It's Official - US Airways / America West To Merge  
User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17727 times:

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/bre...?feed=OBR&Date=20050519&ID=4464778

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. Airways Group Inc. (UAIRQ) and America West Holdings Corp. (AWA) are set to announce an agreement to merge after the close of trading on Thursday, business news television station CNBC reported.

An industry source told Reuters last week that a merger announcement was close, adding that the deal would probably begin as a marketing alliance and unfold in stages.

© 2005 Reuters

[Edited 2005-05-19 21:55:50]

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User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17681 times:
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What will be the name?

US West?
America Airways?

Hope it will bring a lot of positiveness to the industry.



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User currently offlineAhlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1347 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17638 times:

Well, considering the route structure, maybe "America East and West"?

User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3170 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17602 times:

The name will be US Airways. There are quite a few threads about it, where this is stated. IMO it's a good choice, as the US Airways-brand is better known than the AWA-brand.

It's an interesting situation. The most interesting part is, I think, how the UA codeshare will develop and what the US gouvernement will allow. I can imagine that they won't be allowed to codeshare as much as they do now, but they also need to codeshare less as they have a more extenisve network.


User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17584 times:

I recall reading that the name will be US Airways, but that AW CEO Parker will be the new CEO and that the HQ of US will move to Tempe, AZ.


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User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17522 times:

Until I see a press release from either company I wouldn't exactly call it official. Although I expect this to be soon as the markets have now closed.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11689 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17521 times:

CNBC just reported that the press conference will begin "momentarily." CNBC said they will cover it live.

User currently offlineUAL-Fan From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17510 times:

Last night I flew America West and their employees are being told they will be the ones to keep their name. I think that's better as US Airway does not have the best reputation after what their employees pulled this past Holiday Season.

User currently offlinePotomac From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17429 times:

sheesh..why dont we just wait until THEY tell us what the name will be, where HQ will be located, and any other details...

User currently offlineVivavegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 505 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17342 times:

Name: US Airways

HQ: Tempe, AZ

Source: CNBC



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User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17311 times:

CNBC also reports that trading has halted on AWA stock "Pending News."

User currently offlineAAFLT192 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17269 times:

Trading in AWA shares was halted at the closing of the bell, presumably in advance of an announcement.

User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 815 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17218 times:
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I know this has been discussed ad naseum on the forum but I haven't really seen anybody talk about where service may be improved with the new airline. For example, here in SDF you must fly to CLT or PHL for most of your westbound trips. For an A-netter like me this doesn't really matter. It would be great, though, to have service to PHX and then connecting service to west coast cities. Right now WN has the dominance no this route and is not challenged on SDF - PHX or SDF - LAS. The only other airline to fly even remotely west is AA to DFW and NW to MSP.

I only hope this is good for the industry. I have family who works for US in Charlotte and a friend who works for HP in PHX. So I want them both to be secure.

Regards,
John


User currently offlineUsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17168 times:

its on CNBC right now!!! my eyes are glued to the tv!!!!

User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16924 times:

Quoting UsAirways16bwi (Reply 13):
its on CNBC right now!!! my eyes are glued to the tv!!!!

If I am watching CNBC now at 1625 EDT, I don't see it, did I miss it?



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16908 times:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Shares of America West Airlines (AWA.N: Quote, Profile, Research) were halted in over-the-counter trading as the market expected the carrier to announce it has agreed to merge with bankrupt U.S. Airways (UAIRQ.OB: Quote, Profile, Research) .
Business news television station CNBC reported that the two carriers are set to make the announcement after the close of trading on Thursday


User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16889 times:
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I don't find anything on Astra or Hotbird either...


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16789 times:

CNBC said the carriers had raised $1 billion from various investors to cover operating expenses as part of the transaction.

Investors in the deal could include the world's leading aircraft manufacturer Airbus, Air Canada's parent company ACE Aviation Holdings Inc. and General Electric Co.


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16727 times:

Quoting Joost (Reply 3):
The name will be US Airways. There are quite a few threads about it, where this is stated. IMO it's a good choice, as the US Airways-brand is better known than the AWA-brand.

Yeah, but it is better-known because of financial difficulties, luggage fiascoes, employee unrest, and crashes. Not exactly the stuff of a "good brand".


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4602 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16714 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 17):
CNBC said the carriers had raised $1 billion from various investors to cover operating expenses as part of the transaction.

Actually they reported $2 billion. It appears who ever issued the paper release with this information got the number wrong. We'll know which is right eventually.


User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4602 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16663 times:

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
Yeah, but it is better-known because of financial difficulties, luggage fiascoes, employee unrest, and crashes. Not exactly the stuff of a "good brand".

Same could have been said for Northwest, Delta, Continental, America West, American,...need go on?


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16600 times:

Quoting UAL-Fan (Reply 7):
Last night I flew America West and their employees are being told they will be the ones to keep their name

No they aren't. Every single source of news has confirmed they are going to use the US Airways brand.

N


User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16575 times:

Expect the unexpected from what I've heard.

Supposedly, the devil is in the details, and the details are quite surprising. I'm waiting myself...


User currently offlineBraniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16532 times:

Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 20):
Same could have been said for Northwest, Delta, Continental, America West, American,...need go on?

I don't want to sound contradictory, but has America West had a crash? I don't remember one, but I certainly can be proven wrong!



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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16448 times:

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 18):
Yeah, but it is better-known because of financial difficulties, luggage fiascoes, employee unrest, and crashes. Not exactly the stuff of a "good brand".

We know that, But tourists don't........


25 NW727251ADV : This merger makes absolutely NO SENSE to me now. If they're still going to use the US Airways brand, other than an expanded route network, what insent
26 Gigneil : Because nobody cares. They look for a fare and a flight, and they buy whatever pops up. N
27 NYC777 : Sure they do...it has been well publicizied PR disaster for US
28 Ouboy79 : I'm shocked at how many people seem to forget when Northwest had problems even keeping their planes in the air it seemed back in the 80s...Or double b
29 Potomac : wouldn't it make more sense to hold back any proclamations about if this is a good or a bad thing until we officially hear specific details from the s
30 ORD777 : What will the rank of the new airline be in term of size compared to the other U.S. majors?
31 Braniff727 : What are you referring to? There was the crash of NW 255 in 1987. There was the 727 that hit the DC9 in heavy fog in 1990. Two accidents, while bad,
32 Danny : I wish them all the best. With the financing obtained and smart plan they have a chance to make it. I hope that merger will not mean adding one to ano
33 NW727251ADV : So when did you become the offical spokesman for the 286 million people living in the United States??? Maybe YOU don't care but most people I know wh
34 HZ747300 : Why would Airbus be financing a merger and filing for launch aid? Especially a merger with a bankrupt airline involved. I know they are two different
35 Midway2AirTran : Still waiting to see something offical, anybody catch anything yet? The CNBC report also states that "unidentified sources have indicated that it will
36 Col : Danny, Agree with you. A change is better than a rest, and US and its employees could have been in for a long rest. This could be a smart move on both
37 USAFHummer : Is the government going to object to this at all, kinda like they did with the US/UA merger attempt a few years back? Greg
38 EMBQA : As just reported on the news here it PIT: 2 to 3 years to combine the airlines into one... USAirways will be the 'surviving' airline... Both airlines
39 Gigneil : Nobody cares. Seriously. Your view of the world is not representative of everyone. The average American clicks on what comes up. Anyone with any mark
40 NW727251ADV : I'm definitely not an EXTREME avaition enthusiast so I'm sure there will be something questionable about my response to your question and I'm welcome
41 Midway2AirTran : Doug Parker has performed quite well in the past at HP, naturally, he wouldn't be getting involved in this if there is no good plan behind it. He's a
42 NW727251ADV : So this is why US Airways is stone's throw away from collapse and their hard-pressed for this HP merger??? If "nobody cares" as you so candidly put i
43 AussieItaliano : Greg, I doubt that the DOJ will object. Back in 2000 they objected to the UA/US merger based on the idea that UA was already the largest carrier and t
44 MD11LuxuryLinr : People get pissed. Time heals. If and when it comes down to it.. be it because of money or a shorter trip time, they'll fly US again.
45 Col : Have a quick review on US Load Factors and passenger growth. I think you will find what Neil is saying is correct. I will be boarding US on Monday fo
46 Junction : What about the huge mess stirred up by NW in DTW 5 or 6 years ago where everyone had to wait 6-12 hours for gates during a two-day snow storm? It mad
47 Post contains links Haveric : NEWS RELEASE: http://www.shareholder.com/americawe...ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=163980 PHOENIX, May 19, 2005 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Ame
48 Ouboy79 : That should put a few of the questions to rest now.
49 N766UA : How long's this gunna take to work its way through the courts? Why in the heck would HP wanna merge with a bankrupt airline, anyway?
50 NW727251ADV : You have a very valid point and i'm not disputing it but even still its subjected to OTHER PEOPLES opinions. Some people really will pay more to stra
51 Post contains images FriendlySkies : Ok...so US/HP are going to try the impossible (full-service LCC) while one is hanging on for dear life and the other is barely turning a profit. All I
52 Post contains images NW727251ADV : Extremely funny posts indeed. I agree with you. The FOX NEWS in my area is reporting this merger while I am typing this. $1.5 billion dollars in new
53 Slider : Me neither...and I've said as much and asked someone, ANYONE, to explain to me the benefits of such a union. To date, no one has. People have been mo
54 Ouboy79 : DP is making some good comments for those that aren't listening to the conference call. The combined company will have $2 billion in cash on hand alon
55 Potomac : slider - read the release. whether it will work in the long-run obviously remains to be seen, but the approach and intended model they describe explai
56 Macmac76 : So when did you become the offical spokesman for the 286 million people living in the United States??? Maybe YOU don't care but most people I know wh
57 N1641 : woohoo! two airlines that suck have merged!! does America West still hold the yearly title for most luggage lost?
58 NW727251ADV : So let me get this straight and this is just an analogy not based on real world US Airways problems...AHEM...you'll fly TransGlobal Airways (fictious
59 Slider : That doesn't answer the question. What is the benefit to HP and US? This speaks nothing to the existing cost structure nor synergies they expect.
60 RCS763AV : This will surely relieve capacity. Thank god! Lets star seeing some profits! (my guess is a buh-bye to the PHL hub operation and a big fleet cut)
61 OHLHD : For being far away, I have a question. Is this good or not? Honest, as I have no idea. How about the livery? Will they have a new one or will they kee
62 Post contains links Ouboy79 : To those wanting more explantions listen to the conference calls: http://www.shareholder.com/americawest/medialist.cfm The PHL hub isn't going anywher
63 Ouboy79 : Added to the above PHL comment. DP and Bruce just stated the vast importance of PHL in the new airline.
64 Post contains links Fokkerf28 : A LINK TO THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0519amwest19-ON.html
65 Post contains links Midex461 : From HPs hometown paper: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0519amwest19-ON.html As far as a merger, I can see the benefit as far as route net
66 Post contains links BMIFlyer : From USairways.com...... http://www.usairways.com/about/press/nw_05_0519.htm continues.... Plus this from America West...... http://www.shareholder.co
67 Longhaulheavy : Finally, the end of HP (Heavy Pigeon). A five-year-old could have designed a better livery for them.
68 Skymileman : Very interesting that they will be going with the U.S. Airways name. Too bad, too. I'll miss seeing the America West CRJ up at BIL. Oh well, it will b
69 Sydscott : I see 2 big unanswered questions here; 1. Since US Airways is the biggest operator at Washington National and America West is the largest holder of be
70 Ouboy79 : This was asked on the conference call. They will be negotiating with the DOT on this matter when they bring the merger deal to the table for their ap
71 PassBureauMgr : Long Haul Heavy, actually the "HP" designator was originally for Hawaiian Pacific Airlines, who had received their operating certificate but did not h
72 Midway2AirTran : Looks good so far IMO, once all is secured the combined carrier will have a good chunk of cash to start, nationwide network including valuable Washing
73 Commavia : Probably not, for two reasons: 1. The new airline while probably convince Congress that they are a "low-fare" airline offering customers incredible c
74 Post contains images LTBEWR : Congraulations to the 'happy couple' I just hope they fly together for a long time and don't join the boneyards of dead airlines. I still say this is
75 B744F : So why was America West in the process of hiring more and more pilots if their managers were working on a merger deal. Won't this deal just get rid of
76 Post contains images Lockheed1011 : Congratulation US! I knew US was not going down. They just became bigger!
77 Iowaman : PHL will remain a hub. There won't really be much relief in capacity, they have A320's coming. I wonder too, I can see it giving US another chance bu
78 B737700doctor : Does anybody know who is buying who?
79 EA CO AS : I gather the 762's will be part of the 25 additional aircraft to be returned?? On the contrary - the combined carrier will still need them until the A
80 HZ747300 : Actually, the governments which have been applied to would be stupid to give Airbus launch aid for the A350 especially if Airbus has enough money thr
81 Isitsafenow : Accoding to a PBS business report a few minutes ago, HP is buying US but will use the US name, like ValueJet buying Airtran and using the Airtran name
82 Gigneil : 5th. According to the US/HP press release, they will create the 5th largest airline by ASMs. N
83 Mariner : Yes, I think it is unlikely (but not impossible) that they would have to give anything up However, if Congress mandates another round of "beyond peri
84 Tockeyhockey : does anyone else agree with me that it seems somewhat stupid for airbus to get involved in bankruptcy exit financing with an airline based on that air
85 N200WN : Well I'm no armchair CEO but my feeling is that HP and US are trying to gain critical mass to ensure they survive they coming industry consolidation.
86 Post contains links and images ARCJET :
87 PSU.DTW.SCE : TockeyHockey, My thoughts on this exactly. The only reason for this merger and all the financial backing is because the creditors would all lose more
88 N200WN : ARCJET that's cool...thanks. I sure reminds me of Repubilc's route map in the early 80's.
89 Post contains links Cactus739 : This makes for one hell of a route map.... here's a PDF file from America West's website. http://www.americawest.com/aboutawa/companyprofile/usair/com
90 EMBQA : ARCJET that's cool...thanks. But what is it..? Not the new route map of the combined airlines.
91 Expressjetphx : All I can say is that I hope it works out, or we'll have 52 awfully lonely gates here in PHX. I'd like to see some increased overseas flights out of P
92 Commavia : Call me crazy, but I don't think this route map is particularly competitive relative to bigger, stronger airlines like AA, DL or UA. Hubs in PHL and
93 Starrion : Most of the investors have more to lose in a shutdown than if they continue to operate. It certainly will be entertaining to see if they can pull off
94 Grantcv : I don't understand this merger. America West has straightened out their mess over the past few years is now merging with an airline that seems to have
95 Mariner : Okay. Isn't that where most of the people live? There were questions about survival and future growth. In the case of one of them, those questions ha
96 Cory6188 : So what has the response been from the other legacy carriers so far? What have AA, CO, DL, etc. said? What's going around at the other airlines? I rea
97 EA CO AS : in essence, won't usair be buying airbus jets with airbus's money? Yes, that's exactly right. Airbus just "bought" orders for their struggling new air
98 WGW2707 : This is by far the best airline merger since the merger of Boeing Air Transport, National Air Transport, Pacific Air Transport and Varney Air Transpor
99 USAF757300 : I hope PHX doesnt get cut back, I would really like to see some new International service from here.
100 Haveric : Although not international, the new US Airways will serve Hawaii from PHX.
101 Mexicana757 : Sad to see HP give up their name to US... oh well. Lets see what happens with this merger. I wonder if this merger might meet the same fate as the UA/
102 Sydscott : Considering the number of Caribbean & Mexican destinations US serves from Charlotte, I'm sure the merged airline will want a western equivalent for t
103 Post contains links AeroWesty : According to your profile, you aren't old enough to remember Continental when it was acquiring PeoplExpress, and half the nation was saying the same
104 Gigneil : I don't think they will add Caribbean services from PHX... but I expect to see increased CLT flying to major Western destinations. N
105 EA CO AS : I don't think they will add Caribbean services from PHX... Actually, I think they very well may add Caribbean service from PHX down the line - it woul
106 AeroWesty : San Juan maybe. Most Caribbean passengers from the west and southwest on US will continue to connect in CLT or PHL. Running dedicated services to Car
107 Kahala777 : ARCJET, Thanks for the map of the entire U.S. route system of US Airways and America West Airlines. The only thing that is left to add to the route ma
108 Flybyguy : Airbus is SUPPORTING US Airways & America West through difficult times so that when they DO make money that they will be even bigger, more loyal cust
109 Commavia : Thanks. And US is one of the, if no the, highest, so they're halfway back again. And, it doesn't matter how much capital Parker and Lakefield lined u
110 AeroWesty : A Senate committee does not have "jurisdiction" over an industry. That would be the domain of the executive level of government. If you're going to a
111 Gigneil : Come come now, darling. You know full well that Senator McCain will play a key role in this. N
112 Post contains images OzarkD9S : That big hole in the middle of the country could be filled in quite nicely with the empty gates sitting around DFW and STL.
113 Post contains links Pmg1704 : US Airways and America West Plan to Merge By MICHELINE MAYNARD Published: May 20, 2005 US Airways and America West Airlines said yesterday that they p
114 AeroWesty : Of course I do, but the way it was worded was as if John McCain directed the entire airline industry from his seat in a Senate committee, and you kno
115 Post contains links and images Danny : I think that current US livery is pretty good and unique. It has much more "business style;e" than America West one. They just must ensure that it do
116 Galapagapop : I just don't know. If you combine the numbers of the 2 its looks very good as they will have 2 Billion in cash, but there will be merger costs, and lo
117 Mariner : The two CEO's are not the only ones in this pie. What you are saying, in review, is that the people who run GECAS, and PAR and Air Wisconsin and Wexf
118 Gigneil : Heh, yeah seriously. The best possible group of investors has thrown an UNPRECEDENTED amount of capital at this deal. The numbers Doug Parker has come
119 Post contains links Commavia : Um, excuse me, but could we please cut the condescension? I know my vocabulary just fine. FYI -- Senate (and House) committees absolutely do have "ju
120 Byrdluvs747 : That's where you're wrong. Before the merger HP was preparing for a Hawaii/Caribbean expansion. Using only CLT or PHL will result in double connectio
121 AeroWesty : Sorry, but not in the manner and context in which you used it. My original post was a minor correction done in a non-condescending way. Now be a man,
122 Commavia : In what possible other manner and/or context could I have used the word? Per the link I posted in my last reply, do and do not committees have "juris
123 Gigneil : No, really, they don't. Congress makes law, they don't enforce or apply them. The DOT has jurisdiction over transportation. The DOJ will approve the
124 Commavia : Jurisdiction means oversight. Some organs of government have legislative oversight, like Congress (and Senator McCain) and others have enforcement ov
125 UA772IAD : As stated, the new airline will operate under the US Airways brand, but the headquarters will move from Arlington, Virginia (near Washington, D.C.), t
126 MAH4546 : Definitley. In fact, FLL-SFO is likely to start this fall. It will be a daily A319.
127 Vctony : What also hasn't really been mentioned is that the merged airline will be 60 mainline aircraft shorter than the current separate airline, I am just cu
128 Commavia : Before FLL-LAX? That's surprising. Are they focusing on SFO first to draw feed from the UA codeshare, or is SFO just a stronger market? Thanks in adv
129 ExFATboy : Well, actually they both have "jurisdiction" in the sense that the executive branch's actions include the responsibility to carry out laws passed by
130 CASINterest : (early disclosure---haven't read above posts, going for my first take on this) 1. two companies have just merged. 2. Both are losing money. 3. Combine
131 AeroWesty : The original use of the word "jurisdiction" was applied to whether or not the merged entity will have to give up slots at DCA, and Gigneil gave a conc
132 Flyboyaz : I just got done listening to our employee webcast. It was very informative and was great to hear some questions answered. As far as the name goes, the
133 Commavia : Let me be clear, then. I apologize if I was not clear in the way I used the word "jurisdiction." My intention was not to indicate that because McCain
134 Elwood64151 : Anyone with marketing experience knows that people respond in many ways, and that most choose on price, but some people will ignore price in order to
135 MAH4546 : Airplanes must be repainted every few years. They will clearly come up with a new colour scheme, and it will be one that is probably going to be simp
136 RJpieces : I assume the new US Airways will remain in Star Alliance? I wonder how this will affect their relations with United.
137 Flyboyaz : Actually that is a huge problem for them. They are matching everyone's fares (no matter how ridiculously low they are). HP has a very good yield mana
138 Flyboyaz : Probably true, though it won't be for a while. They stated that the HP planes will most likely be repainted in the current US livery.
139 AeroWesty : Hmm, these two posts don't exactly jive, but I'm glad we've cleared up any confusion over how the merger will proceed. Between my combined Dividend a
140 Laxtwin : Is there going to be an increase in the flights between the Phx/Las and Charlotte/Philadelphia?
141 Jmc1975 : It will become increasingly obvious that there will need to be a livery modification. The 'Darth Vader' livery will prove to be an operational hindera
142 Flyboyaz : Oye JMC...it's navy blue! LOL Yes I think it will be an issue as well, have to see what they will come up with.
143 Capt.Fantastic : Will the New US Airways keep the "cactus" call-sign? Since HP is taking over US Airways and the headquarters is in Tempe, AZ, I hope that "cactus" wil
144 MAH4546 : Trust me, they will not. Dark paint+Phoenix/Las Vegas weather=Operations nightmare
145 Flyboyaz : Yes I agree 100% but I'm just telling you what the people who make the decisions stated. They said they would look into it so perhaps they will....on
146 Post contains images Indy : The HP design is much more pleasing to look at. I am curious how a design like what is currently being used by US ever got approved. Must have been de
147 Post contains images ORDZW : It would appear that some clever people in Appleton, WI made a pretty good decision after all. This could be huge for Air Wisconsin, and I am extreme
148 Jmc1975 : What I think would make a great livery is if USAirways' current scheme was inverted: light grey upper fusalage, bordered by a red then a white cheatl
149 Flyboyaz : Sounds pretty cool. I also liked the one that someone posted in another thread. It was nice because it was basically our current scheme in red, white
150 Ckfred : Indy: The current US design was approved by Steve Wolf, former CEO. If you've noticed, every airline that he has run has gone to a dark scheme. When h
151 Flyboyaz : Besides a codeshare in the Star Alliance (assuming we stay), we would do all the ground handling for all AC flights in the US. In addition, we would
152 Gift4tbone : I havent read all the posts, dont have all nite here, but i did read the press release. And it seems like they know what they're doing from the news a
153 Mariner : Of course. Who has ever suggested otherwise? Every man and his dog knew exactly what GECAS was up to. What I am getting from your posts - whether you
154 Post contains images GentFromAlaska : So what happens with the US/UA codeshare agreement. Do they just shake hands and part ways or does UA also fit into the mix
155 Post contains links CactusHP : Here is the employee letter: May 19, 2005 Dear Fellow Employees, Today America West took a bold step towards building a more secure future. Our announ
156 Midex461 : Interesting network. Can we assume that during the integration period that HP/US will work on closing in the gaps in the network, b/c I'll guarantee t
157 Midex461 : Hey cactusHP, after looking at your profile, I have to wonder how you got that letter. We have VERY FEW 8th Graders working out on the ramp (or anywhe
158 Rhuertas70 : [quote=Mexicana757,reply=101]Although not international, the new US Airways will serve Hawaii from PHX. Only if the respective codeshare agreements wi
159 MEA330 : Everybody is making a big deal out of the Airbus loan. GE subsidiary GECAS has been involved in financing a lot of bankrupt airlines: US Airways, Air
160 A330323X : Anyone with marketing experience knows that people respond in many ways, and that most choose on price, but some people will ignore price in order to
161 Midex461 : Yes, but they DO fly to SDF.
162 Aerorobnz : Now there is more of a likelyhood of another company going under instead of just US than there was. Merging won't solve too much unless the changes co
163 Gilesdavies : Just had my US Airways Dividend Miles email through confirming the merger at 7.57am (BST). Here are a couple of the FAQ's from the email I have copied
164 UniTED : Of course US and UA can still codeshare... did deregulation not give airlines total freedom in the market? Or am I (sadly) mistaken?
165 PHLapproach : His dad works for HP, I didn't know people would accuse someone of making that up, typical on this board.
166 PHLBOS : Too close in appearance to UA's out-going blue & gray livery. When US' livery came out in '97; I thought it looked like an inverted UA livery. US has
167 Cloud4000 : Is there a new livery in the works as well? I don't believe they want to use the current scheme given its link to two bankrupticies. It'll be interest
168 ORD : Republic did not go to a dark livery under Wolf. The scheme he had done for Republic was almost entirely white, with a very small amount of light gra
169 Post contains links ExFATboy : Deregulation freed them from the old CAB regulatory scheme, but they're still subject to antitrust law, just as any US company is absent special exem
170 Flyboyaz : Good point! That's exactly what they have planned actually.
171 Post contains links and images PHLBOS : A.k.a. the Mary Tyler Moore scheme. View Large View MediumPhoto © Ellis M. Chernoff
172 Whlinder : Airlines: Risky business venture SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD Did you hear the one about U.S. taxpayers teaming up with Europe's Airbus
173 Post contains images SBN580 : Yes, the base color of the fuselage was white for RC, but the overall colors are the same, red, blue, gray. Boring and no logo for branding. "Ditchin
174 TWFirst : RE: All the speculation here about downsizing and/or elimination of hubs, this comes straight from the HP News Release: "Once fully integrated, the ai
175 Midex461 : Actually, that's kinda what I thought. I wasn't trying to be an a$$hole.
176 Post contains links Olympus69 : This link should help answer that question - $1.5 Billion over 5 years. http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/nat...onal/2005/05/19/merger-050519.html
177 Post contains links KarlB737 : Courtesy: KNXV-TV Merger: http://www.abc15.com/video/net4/play...amgen/phoenix/5pthu.rm?start=00:21 --------------------------------------------------
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