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HP & US Air New Route MAP Combined ~  
User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14448 times:


Here is a combined route map prvioded by US Airways and America West
Veiwable options
http://www.americawest.com/aboutawa/companyprofile/usair/us_routemap.htm


PDF File
http://www.americawest.com/aboutawa/companyprofile/usair/combo_map.pdf


Kewl HP now can operate INTL flights once again BRING BACK THE HP 747 . . Below are Intl Destionations . . Previously ran by US

•Paris, France
•Frankfurt, Germany
•Munich, Germany
•Dublin, Ireland
•Shannon, Ireland
•Rome, Italy
•Venice., Italy
•Amsterdam, Netherlands
•Glascow, Scotland
•Barcelona, Spain
•Madrid, Spain
•London, UK
•Manchester, UK


They have also published Airline Comparison Table here
http://www.americawest.com/aboutawa/companyprofile/usair/us_comparison.htm

Company Profiles
http://www.americawest.com/aboutawa/companyprofile/usair/co_profile.pdf

[Edited 2005-05-20 04:55:48]

[Edited 2005-05-20 05:00:24]

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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14345 times:

wow i was just looking at these airlines old routemaps. thanks for the link!


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23056 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14279 times:

Bring back the 747s? Let's bring back the CMH hub while we're at it...


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32868 posts, RR: 71
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 14192 times:

Quoting Squirrel83 (Thread starter):

Kewl HP now can operate INTL flights once again BRING BACK THE HP 747 . . Below are Intl Destionations . . Previously ran by US

America West has been operating international flights for quite a while. They fly to Canada, Costa Rica, and Mexico.

And even though it is America West taking over US Airways, don't forget, the airline will be called US Airways. The America West name and the HP code will be history.

So the "cool" thing will be seeing a US Airways Express jet in Billings, Montana...who'd of ever thunk.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17537 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 14083 times:

Just as I expected; a lot in the West, a lot in the East, and nothin' in the center!


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User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 791 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13971 times:

I wonder if (when the company becomes US Airways) they'll keep the BA codeshare/partnership in PHX? I guess they would.

User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13931 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
America West has been operating international flights for quite a while. They fly to Canada, Costa Rica, and Mexico.

I guess I needed to state European Destinations . . . Sorry.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):

So the "cool" thing will be seeing a US Airways Express jet in Billings, Montana...who'd of ever thunk.

yeah there is a true fact, same with GEG.


User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13899 times:

What a mess.

That route map will be streamlined so quick.


User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4568 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13891 times:

Wow. I had to zoom to 400% so everything on the east coast wasn't a big black blob  Smile


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13878 times:

same with DRO. Although I wonder if it'll be YV equipment or someone else?

fillerfiller


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13811 times:

Quoting Bartond (Reply 5):

That's a very good question. However, I'm not sure they're going to continue the BA codeshare. I'm sure they'd like to, but the merged airline will probably have to make a choice between British Airways and Star. Of course, HP/US have already stated their intention to stay in Star, so in my opinion, I think the codeshare will soon be history.

This begs the question--without the codeshare, will BA stay in PHX?

Aaron G.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 13659 times:

It is all over the news that US Airways and HP will merge to form the first nationwide "low-cost" carrier. How will this affect the premium services of the former airline? I wonder how do their loyal frequent flyers feel about this?


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User currently offlineSeven3Seven From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 318 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13565 times:

Hopefully these two pathetic carriers will make one big pathetic carrier and go under.

Then we can start healing the US airline industry instead of propping up failing airlines with more and more financing.



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13516 times:

Quoting Bartond (Reply 5):
I wonder if (when the company becomes US Airways) they'll keep the BA codeshare/partnership in PHX? I guess they would.

As I mentioned in another thread, US Airways already has a mileage agreement with Qantas, which is, like British Airways, in oneworld. Forget about alliance differences forcing the combined carrier to drop those deals.



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13152 posts, RR: 100
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13466 times:
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For the first time since the failed PSA merger, US will be an entire "US airline."  Smile

Quoting Seven3Seven (Reply 12):
Hopefully these two pathetic carriers will make one big pathetic carrier and go under.

Oh, you're not going to make friends with that comment... However, I still want to know how this merger will make the US part of US + HP profitable...

And the new routemap needs to be made interactive yesterday...  Smile

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 4):
Just as I expected; a lot in the West, a lot in the East, and nothin' in the center!

Since more of the growth in air travel is at the coasts... this will position HP + US well. Although, I do hope to see the midwest recover quick.

Am I the only one who thinks four hubs might be diluting it a bit too much? Just my two cents.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineFlick70 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13396 times:

Well, living in OMA, this whole merger deal doesn't do much for me at all. I guess I am stuck with AA and NW still.  Smile


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User currently offlineSupa7e7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13349 times:

This all points to aircraft repainting / reconfuguration on a massive scale for the new "US Airways." Pretty exciting.

Since a very quick merging of US and HP frequent flier programs has been announced, HP will indeed be a Star Alliance carrier (de facto) during the transition period of around 1 year (my guess).

Also, US ended its Qantas agreement years ago.


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 13198 times:

Quoting Supa7e7 (Reply 16):
Also, US ended its Qantas agreement years ago.

You might want to inform the webmasters of both websites and the authors of Attache magazine. Both US Airways sources still list Qantas as a partner, and Qantas lists US Airways as a partner as well.

http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/partners/airline

http://www.usairways.com/dividendmil...mingmiles/partnerawards/qantas.htm

[Edited 2005-05-20 11:59:00]


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User currently offlineJrMafia90 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 13056 times:

This is great news for US. I think they are going to do a lot better now. And maybe they will get more intl. cities.

User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 12532 times:

SHUP, cool! I had no idea about that bizzare relationship. Hats off to you. That said, your comment about a BA-US deal is a leap of conjecture. Possibly might happen, but not real likely IMO.

User currently offlinePeppes1980 From Norway, joined Mar 2005, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11859 times:

So what will happen with Star alliance now?

Will the new airline be a member of Star Alliance?


User currently offlineTi717 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11551 times:

"In addition to the operating synergies created by the merger, the new relationship with Air Canada provides for even greater operating improvements. The merged airline and Air Canada plan to work together to create value for each other through maintenance contracts, airport handling agreements and the eventual expansion of the Star Alliance agreement, which could include codesharing with Air Canada, consistent with the U.S.-Canada bilateral aviation agreement. "

From Press Release.



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User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 11492 times:

Quoting Peppes1980 (Reply 20):
So what will happen with Star alliance now?

Will the new airline be a member of Star Alliance?

The airline is still going to be called US Airways, and as such is already a member of Star Alliance

Anyone any ideas on if we'll see a new colour scheme? I think the current HP colour scheme will look good, with the US flag replacing the cactus!
I'm useless with photoshop, so can anyone can come up with something for all to see?


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10284 times:

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 7):
What a mess.

My exact thoughts. Can you immagine a trip from Kalispell, Montana to Oil City PA? Your routing would be like through Pheonix, then PIT then to Oil City.

What a mess is right.



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10155 times:

Quoting Squirrel83 (Thread starter):
Kewl HP now can operate INTL flights once again BRING BACK THE HP 747 . . Below are Intl Destionations . . Previously ran by US

•Paris, France
•Frankfurt, Germany
•Munich, Germany
•Dublin, Ireland
•Shannon, Ireland
•Rome, Italy
•Venice., Italy
•Amsterdam, Netherlands
•Glascow, Scotland

Where is Glascow?
(Squirrel-Not dumping on you...it was misspelled on the Map from HP/US!)
Arrrgggh!



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25 Post contains images Vivavegas : Kind of like my AA runs to EYW, just one of those many cites "you can't get there from here!". AA MKE-STL-MIA-EYW -or- MKE-ORD-MIA-EYW US Airways MKE
26 Kahala777 : Perhaps - However, it would probably be a bit more strict. American Airlines is surely not a very camper right now. The combined networks of US/HP ar
27 Redngold : I sorta wonder if now, since the route map is awfully dense in the Northeast and Appalachia, whether the new USAirways will drop some of the EAS route
28 Positiverate : This is like two drowning people in the ocean, hanging onto each other to survive. US Air couldn't make their route map work, what makes everyone thin
29 Post contains images Aa777jr : Forgive me in advance. What is the fate of the two carriers liverys? Combination or will they go with all US livery. Any plains for expanding their in
30 Airways6max : It is clear that this will mean that US is now a bi-coastal airline, with a lot of emphasis on both the east and west coasts. I think that they still
31 Expressjetphx : I expect, unfortunately, that they will pull out. If the new US continues with Star, they might just bring LH back into the PHX market, and the BA tr
32 EnviroTO : Does a different airline do it better? I can see Sioux Falls, Omaha, Des Moines, Wichita, Oklahoma City, Austin, and San Antonio getting easterly ser
33 Okie : It would be sure nice to see some east coast service out of OKC without going through ORD or DFW however, my experience is that the local citizens of
34 AGC525 : Living in PIT, I hope it makes a comeback. I excited to hear US and HP merged. PIT is such an awesome airport, and the region needs the business.
35 EGNR : From the press release on the America West website: "$250 million will come from Airbus in the form of a loan. The companies have also agreed that th
36 Noise : WOW US has such an extensive route network in the east! I wonder if they plan to create a Midwest hub? Or...it does some that US has some presence in
37 Stirling : I think there might be a "curse" hanging over MCI. The facilities might have something to do with it...from what I've heard..as I have no personal ex
38 Lincoln : Am I the only one who's been thinking "Gee, this sounds like PSA All over again"? As far as I can tell, it's generally agreed that the "Barbell Route
39 AirframeAS : The Arizona Republic reported today that the HP name and brand is here to stay, the US brand will be removed. The company will continue to operate ou
40 EnviroTO : MCI couldn't function as a hub unless all the existing terminals are completely replaced. Before 9/11 you needed to exit the secure area and pass thro
41 ERJ170 : Why does everyone think that an airline need a central US hub? They really don't. I think the new US will do fine with their 3 hubs.. they are all loc
42 Flyboyaz : I dont' know where they are getting that information. It was made clear to us by Parker that we would change our name.
43 Flyboyaz : There's an article today on AZ Central that states we will be operating as US, so obviously that other write had no idea what they were talking about.
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