Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26834 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3255 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter): When did IB cease its MAD-LAX service? Does Southern CA have a large Spanish population?
Iberia's own service to LAX ran from the mid 1980s until the early 1990s using B747s 2-3x per week either nonstop to Madrid or via Chicago.
Iberia then continued to service LAX via daily code share on Carnival Airlines using A300s until Carnivals purchase by Pan Am II in 1997.
While Los Angeles has a huge Latino culture and population base, the Spanish citizenry itself only numbers about 12,000 people. Less than other relatively small European countries including Romania, Greece, Yugoslavia, Sweden, Ireland, Netherlands which all account for larger populations counts in the LA area. In addition Spain has few cultural or business ties with Los Angeles and thus in general is a low yield destination.
I would expect to see Alitalia return to Los Angeles before Iberia tries the market again. Italy as a comparison has over 40,000 of its citizens residing in Southern California plus strong business links especially in the design and fashion industries.
Iberia has a pretty week network to the US. Even its MAD-NY services are not flown more then once daily.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3184 times:
IB service to JNB is now 5x weekly - I seem to remember that it (re)started with 3x weekly, so presumably it's doing OK. They served JNB up until the late 80's as I recall with DC8's then DC10's (don't think it was ever a 747/74M), but dropped the route during the sanctions era, and restarted the route a few years ago.
SonicZoom87 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2926 times:
so let me get it clear? is Iberia starting to fly to LAX again??? That would just be wonderful! in the past my mother has gone to Madrid and she had to get an AA flight to Chicago then transfer on to Iberia and the transfer she says is a pain in the you know what. I remember her saying she had to get a train in the airport to change terminals inside the airport.
please let me know.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2424 times:
Iberia has two daily flights to JFK each day (All year round). One leaves Madrid at 1:10pm and the other leaves at 5:17 pm. From JFK one leaves at 6:00 pm and the other at 9:25 pm.
The JNB route does pretty well, the flight somtimes upgradeds to an A340-600.
In the Summer season both flights will be ocasionally be upgraded to the A340-600 the 1:10 pm flight out of MAD is sopposed to be flown by the A340-600 daily but in the Spring and Winter season the flight is usually operated by the A340-300. The 5:17 pm flight out of MAD is sopposed to be operated by the A340-300 regulary. The 1:10 out of MAD was flown by the 747s till January.
Pdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2390 times:
Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 13): Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 12):
Uh huge, dont forget all Mexicans date back to Spain
This doesn't apply in this topic. We are talking about Spaniards who have left Spain and settled in California.
If we apply the case you mention then most of Latinamericans would be Spanish.
As has been said, the Spanish (from Spain, Europe...not Mexico, North America which are Mexicans) population in southern CA is just about 12,000 people.
Totally agree; what do Mexicans in southern CA have to do with Spain? Not much at all. Other than the fact Mexico and California were once colonies of Spain [over a century and half ago!!], there are no ties.
New York and other eastern US cities have a lot more O&D.