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HP/US Possible Station Closings  
User currently offlineRichardnhsv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 473 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

I know it's early in the game and pure speculation on everyone's part, but do you think that certain cities will be closed? What about new cities opening and expansion of service? For instance, out of HSV, we have 5 CLT flights and 4 DCA flights. A HSV/PHX flight would be interesting, even a HSV/LAS. Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what happens. Could get interesting.

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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Quoting Richardnhsv (Thread starter):
HSV/PHX flight would be interesting, even a HSV/LAS.

With 71 planes leaving the fleet, any nonstop HSV service from PHX or LAS isn't even on the radar.

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User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 823 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

I do wonder if there will be any additional routes from the east to PHX or LAS? I'm thinking bigger markets like CVG or SDF could support a flight to PHX or LAS. WN has daily flights to PHX and LAS from SDF so the competition would be great.


User currently offlineTomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 577 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2192 times:

all 3 airports in the DC area are currently served- DCA IAD BWI, I would guess services will need to be cut at one. HP is reluctant to give BWI to WN, DCA is a very good location, and IAD can accomodate flights to the west coast. Which will it be?

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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 24554 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Why does one of the WAS airports need to be cut? All the legacies currently serve all three.

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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3476 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Largest airports without HP/US nonstop service to LAS/PHX:

ranked largest to smallest based on YE2003 stats for total passengers:


Largest LAS market without ANY nonstop service:


Largest market (based on YE2003 DOT O & D data) from both LAS and PHX without US/HP nonstop service:


Largest markets (based on YE2004 DOT O & D data) from PVD without nonstop service on any carrier:


Guess who has ample US gate/counter/ramp space for more flights and who better be getting new LAS and/or PHX service if/when the merger/code share starts!!!

[Edited 2005-05-20 22:51:37]

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4676 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

I wouldn't expect any closings for now. They stated they will look at any unprofitable routes first, but I would expect those to be expressed among anything else.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

I don't anticipate any US stations being cut. US has already gone through them in the last two or three years, cutting dozens of stations--OMA, CID, MSN, AZO, LAN, FNT, RDG, EVV, TOL, SBN, FWA, MDW, and lots and lots more. Whatever was going to be closed is already closed.

Note that I'm not talking about EAS cities served by Air Midwest or Colgan. If one of them loses an EAS contract to a non-US Airways Express carrier, then they will almost certainly pull out of the city. Also, it's not yet clear whether Air Midwest will remain a US Airways Express carrier.

I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 8141 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

The problem with expanded service to connect the dots is flight distance and aircraft utilization. PHL/CLT and PHX/LAS are on completely different sides of the country. Many of the markets that do not have service would basically require a near trans-con flight which significantly limits the amount of flights an aircraft can fly in one day. Unless they can command a serious revenue premium, its a money-losing venture to say start service on routes like BUF-PHX, or ELP-PHL. There is no aircraft that is efficiently capable of connecting routes like this. So basically we are back to having nearly two disjoint networks for the time being.

User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 1):
With 71 planes leaving the fleet

I'm sorry guys, but I'm still in shock after reading the news about the merger.
What 71 planes???? From which airline????????


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