PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3374 posts, RR: 18 Posted (8 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10906 times:
Does anyone have a source or a link to a list of U.S. airports ranked by total passengers. I need the top 100 or so, or at least up to the position where PVD falls. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10960 times:
The most extensive stats I could find were from the 2003 FAA ACE report, which has stats through 2002. These have probably changed a bit, but here's the list:
ATL
ORD
LAX
DFW
PHX
DEN
LAS
IAH
MSP
DTW
SFO
EWR
JFK
MIA
SEA
MCO
STL
PHL
CLT
BOS
LGA
CVG
HNL
BWI
SLC
PIT
FLL
MDW
IAD
TPA
SAN
DCA
OAK
PDX
SJC
MEM
MCI
CLE
SJU
MSY
SMF
RDU
BNA
SNA
HOU
IND
CMH
SAT
BDL
AUS
ONT
ABQ
DAL
MKE
PBI
OGG
PVD
RSW
JAX
ANC
BUR
RNO
BUF
OMA
SDF
ORF
TUS
MHT
OKC
ELP
TUL
ALB
BHM
BOI
GUM
GEG
GSO
LIH
KOA
ROC
RIC
DAY
LIT
COS
ISP
GRR
SYR
SAV
DSM
CHS
MSN
ITO
LGB
TYS
GSP
PNS
MDT
SFB
ICT
PWM
Surprises?
I'm astonished that Hilo (ITO) is on the list, but there is a ton of inter-island traffic out there.
I'm also surprised that SFB is higher than ICT, and that ICT is so low. I thought that DSM would be higher, around the level of ELP or TUL. I guess not having WN service hurts them.
Also, I think DFW has moved ahead of LAX now, but it could fall again now that DL has removed its hub operation.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10795 times:
Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 6): Philadelphia is the fourth largest city in the US, yet PHL is 18th. that is by far the most striking statistic here.
Actually, Philly is the 5th largest city and the 6th largest metropolitan area.
Looking at the list, however, city size doesn't mean that much. The key factors are (1) hub, (2) geographic location, followed by (3) size.
Philadelphia, Boston, New York, and DC all split passengers quite a bit. And, they unquestionably lose more pax to rail travel than other regions.
DFW, ORD, STL, IAH, etc., have the advantage of being right in the middle of the country, and able to filter passengers to many different places. For example, it makes sense to fly SAN-DFW-MIA, but not SAN-PHL-MIA.
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 days ago) and read 10757 times:
Those markets served by Southwest Airlines is quite interesting....
Shows just how much MORE of the nation is till "virgin" territory to them.
Illustrates their strength in the middle-sized markets, with less dependence on those larger and smaller...(Texas Excluded)
Markets Served By Southwest Airlines
4 out of the top 10 markets. (Wow)
8 out of the top 20 markets. (Double Wow)
21 out of the top 40 markets.
31 out of the top 50 markets.
54 out of the top 100 markets.
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22 out of the 25 markets ranked 25-50.
21 out of the 25 markets ranked 50-75.
Top 100 List/WN Markets
3- LAX
5- PHX
7- LAS
10- DTW
15- SEA
17- STL
18- PHL
24- BWI
25- SLC
26- PIT
27- FLL
28- MDW
30- TPA
31- SAN
33- OAK
34- PDX
35- SJC
37- MCI
38- CLE
40- MSY
41- SMF
42- RDU
43- BNA
44- SNA
45- HOU
46- IND
47- CMH
48- SAT
49- BDL
50- AUS
51- ONT
52- ABQ
53- DAL
55- PBI
57- PVD
59- JAX
61- BUR
62- RNO
63- BUF
64- OMA
65- SDF
66- ORF
67- TUS
68- MHT
69- OKC
70- ELP
71- TUL
72- ALB
73- BHM
74- BOI
76- GEG
83- LIT
85- ISP
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I wonder, if the "anti-WN" rhetoric, or the bias present against WN here on these boards comes from within those markets not served by WN?
Would love to see a survey of A.netters...as to this subject.
Survey would ask first, "YOUR LOCATION", followed by, "WOULD YOU CONSIDER YOUR VIEW TOWARDS WN BE CONSIDERED 'FAVORABLE' or 'UNFAVORABLE'?
Then the data would be expressed against the market-size of the respondent...
I have found, by Unscientific methods, those in the LARGE markets not served by WN generally view the airline as UNFAVORABLE, while those in markets below position 50, would view WN FAVORABLE
This observation due to those mid to small sized markets hoping for WN service in the future at their hometown airport.
While the negative position assumed by those in the larger markets is because of long-term relationships with legacy carriers with long-standing hub operations in said market. (The FF Factor....kind of like the O'Reilly Factor...with less mess )
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3374 posts, RR: 18 Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 days ago) and read 10640 times:
Thanks everyone, I knew I could count on y'all for the info I needed! I was also able to find some stuff on the FAA website that I have never stumbled into before. (Anyone who has ever "navigated" the FAA/DOT websites know that you usually stumble onto things versus avtually locating it by any logical means!)
Alphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 936 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 days ago) and read 10589 times:
Quoting Stirling (Reply 10): Those markets served by Southwest Airlines is quite interesting....
Shows just how much MORE of the nation is till "virgin" territory to them.
I think you may be confusing the term "airport" for "market". They are not the same. eg: Whereas WN does not serve JFK/ORD, they do serve the NYC/CHI market.
"To he who only has a hammer in his toolbelt, every problem looks like a nail."
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31116 posts, RR: 74 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 days ago) and read 10552 times:
Quoting Ssides (Reply 12): So, let's break it down even more: the top 100 airports (2002), and their respective ranks (2000) in city size and MSA size:
Those MSA numbers are way outdated because definitions of metros have since been redesigned.
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27 Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10429 times:
Quoting Alphascan (Reply 13): I think you may be confusing the term "airport" for "market".
I didn't confuse anything. This is a discussion on Airport (read: Market) Statistics.
Example: Islip
Referring to Islip as being in the New York Market is ok I suppose, when talking in broad generalities...however, the NYC Market is way too big, and too diverse to allow the application of wide-reaching and mostly generic labels across arbitrary borders.
To say Islip serves the NYC Market, is an incomprehensible piece of data to someone that lives on the opposite end of the metro, in say, Rockaway New Jersey. They may be in the same market, but the guy out in Rockaway could care less (generally speaking).
Airports have cachement areas...or....in layman's terms: Markets.
The Metropolitan New York City area is made up of several "Micro-Markets", each with their own demographic profile and characteristics. Walk just five blocks in Manhattan and you pass through at least 3 distinct markets.
In my business, Marketing, It is my job to take these markets, break'em down into sometimes hundreds of smaller markets, and then present that data to the client with a plan as to how best reach those customers in the individual markets. It's the way of business in 21st century.
So ISP and JFK have mutually exclusive catchment areas? Same with MDW and ORD? How about DFW and DAL? LAX and LGB or for that matter SNA?
In order for your original point about "virgin territory" to be valid, mutual exclusivity would have to be the case. In the real world of marketing, if WN began service at "virgin" ORD, it's MDW traffic would be diluted by the overlap of each airport's catchment area.
By the way, cachement does not seem to be a word.
"To he who only has a hammer in his toolbelt, every problem looks like a nail."
LUV4JFK From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 462 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9664 times:
Did anyone notice the 35% jump in passenger traffic at IAD? It couldn't possibly be from Independence Air, could it? Also Orlando Sanford must really be packing those charter flights from Europe for a 46% jump. PIE is pretty nice too at 41%.
LUV4JFK
John F. Kennedy International Airport: Where America Greets The World.
AA777 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 2467 posts, RR: 31 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9150 times:
Um HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BWI IS HIGHER ON THE LIST THAN IAD? That really upsets me actually...... its very odd.... can WN make that big of a difference? I cant believe that IAD has less pax....
-AA777
25 Stirling: One of Southwest's biggest operations on their network is at Sky Harbor. Between the two, Southwest and America West, they do a brisk business.
26 NW727251ADV: This is very old news. BWI surpassed IAD as well as DCA in passenger numbers a long while back. DCA used to have higher passenger numbers than BWI or
27 RCS763AV: Hey remember MX will start service soon and AC jazz....In some months you will have 5 carriers...
28 Expressjetphx: Nice to see PHX in front of JFK!!! It has to be all those HP 733s and A320s!
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