PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3443 posts, RR: 16 Posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 16003 times:
Does anyone have a source or a link to a list of U.S. airports ranked by total passengers. I need the top 100 or so, or at least up to the position where PVD falls. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15892 times:
Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 6): Philadelphia is the fourth largest city in the US, yet PHL is 18th. that is by far the most striking statistic here.
Actually, Philly is the 5th largest city and the 6th largest metropolitan area.
Looking at the list, however, city size doesn't mean that much. The key factors are (1) hub, (2) geographic location, followed by (3) size.
Philadelphia, Boston, New York, and DC all split passengers quite a bit. And, they unquestionably lose more pax to rail travel than other regions.
DFW, ORD, STL, IAH, etc., have the advantage of being right in the middle of the country, and able to filter passengers to many different places. For example, it makes sense to fly SAN-DFW-MIA, but not SAN-PHL-MIA.
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15854 times:
Those markets served by Southwest Airlines is quite interesting....
Shows just how much MORE of the nation is till "virgin" territory to them.
Illustrates their strength in the middle-sized markets, with less dependence on those larger and smaller...(Texas Excluded)
Markets Served By Southwest Airlines
4 out of the top 10 markets. (Wow)
8 out of the top 20 markets. (Double Wow)
21 out of the top 40 markets.
31 out of the top 50 markets.
54 out of the top 100 markets.
22 out of the 25 markets ranked 25-50.
21 out of the 25 markets ranked 50-75.
Top 100 List/WN Markets
I wonder, if the "anti-WN" rhetoric, or the bias present against WN here on these boards comes from within those markets not served by WN?
Would love to see a survey of A.netters...as to this subject.
Survey would ask first, "YOUR LOCATION", followed by, "WOULD YOU CONSIDER YOUR VIEW TOWARDS WN BE CONSIDERED 'FAVORABLE' or 'UNFAVORABLE'?
Then the data would be expressed against the market-size of the respondent...
I have found, by Unscientific methods, those in the LARGE markets not served by WN generally view the airline as UNFAVORABLE, while those in markets below position 50, would view WN FAVORABLE
This observation due to those mid to small sized markets hoping for WN service in the future at their hometown airport.
While the negative position assumed by those in the larger markets is because of long-term relationships with legacy carriers with long-standing hub operations in said market. (The FF Factor....kind of like the O'Reilly Factor...with less mess )
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3443 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 15737 times:
Thanks everyone, I knew I could count on y'all for the info I needed! I was also able to find some stuff on the FAA website that I have never stumbled into before. (Anyone who has ever "navigated" the FAA/DOT websites know that you usually stumble onto things versus avtually locating it by any logical means!)
Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 15526 times:
Quoting Alphascan (Reply 13): I think you may be confusing the term "airport" for "market".
I didn't confuse anything. This is a discussion on Airport (read: Market) Statistics.
Referring to Islip as being in the New York Market is ok I suppose, when talking in broad generalities...however, the NYC Market is way too big, and too diverse to allow the application of wide-reaching and mostly generic labels across arbitrary borders.
To say Islip serves the NYC Market, is an incomprehensible piece of data to someone that lives on the opposite end of the metro, in say, Rockaway New Jersey. They may be in the same market, but the guy out in Rockaway could care less (generally speaking).
Airports have cachement areas...or....in layman's terms: Markets.
The Metropolitan New York City area is made up of several "Micro-Markets", each with their own demographic profile and characteristics. Walk just five blocks in Manhattan and you pass through at least 3 distinct markets.
In my business, Marketing, It is my job to take these markets, break'em down into sometimes hundreds of smaller markets, and then present that data to the client with a plan as to how best reach those customers in the individual markets. It's the way of business in 21st century.
So ISP and JFK have mutually exclusive catchment areas? Same with MDW and ORD? How about DFW and DAL? LAX and LGB or for that matter SNA?
In order for your original point about "virgin territory" to be valid, mutual exclusivity would have to be the case. In the real world of marketing, if WN began service at "virgin" ORD, it's MDW traffic would be diluted by the overlap of each airport's catchment area.
By the way, cachement does not seem to be a word.
"To he who only has a hammer in his toolbelt, every problem looks like a nail."
LUV4JFK From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14761 times:
Did anyone notice the 35% jump in passenger traffic at IAD? It couldn't possibly be from Independence Air, could it? Also Orlando Sanford must really be packing those charter flights from Europe for a 46% jump. PIE is pretty nice too at 41%.
John F. Kennedy International Airport: Where America Greets The World.