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DFW: How Large Will HP/US Be There Now?  
User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2462 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

Can anyone tell me what the combined ops in DFW would look like? Frequencies? Cities served? Number of gates?


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

US
CLT: 6x 733
DCA: 3x E70
PHL: 4x 733, 1x E70
PIT: 3x E70

HP
LAS: 5x 733
PHX: 4x 733, 2x 757, 1x CR9

That looks like it would probably require 5 gates, but I'm not certain how many they have or how many they'll want. Honestly, I doubt they'll add any more service to DFW.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11966 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Based on their summer schedules --

PIT: 3 daily ERJ-170s (2 daily on weekends)
PHL: 4 daily 737-300s, 1 daily ERJ-170 (slightly reduced schedule on weekends)
CLT: 6 daily 737-300s (slightly reduced schedule, plus CR7s, on weekends)
PHX: 4 daily 737-300s, 1 daily 757, 1 daily CRJ (slightly reduced schedule on weekends)
LAS: 6 daily 737-300s

A total of 23 daily departures to five destinations. Based on these numbers, and on their schedules, I don't see why they won't be able to probably reduce the number of gates they use at DFW from the current six (cumulatively) down to four or five.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12178 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2835 times:

US has 3 gates at Terminal B and HP has 3, in the same terminal, next to US. One of HP's PHX arrivals is the red eye, arriving around 0400L on a B-733 or A-319. I doubt they do more than keep the same arrangement. They could drop or connect some flights.

I guess it is all up to the stockholders to approve the merger now as well as the government.

Both will the government allow the merger of two financially struggling airlines? I think that is a big question for US.


User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3312 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Also, don't forget the possibility for new DAL service to compliment the existing synergized DFW service. Envision this:

PHX-DAL: 3x daily CRJ
CLT-DAL: 3x daily CRJ

By using a 50-passenger CRJ, USAirways would be able to bypass the Wright Amendment and start playing in Southwest's own backyard.



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Wouldn't a CRJ be on fumes if it is a full load, not to mention in hot weather conditions? At that point your better off running that same CRJ on say a CLT-BNA-CLT-TYS-CLT-SDF kinda schedule to maximize load factor, yield, and weather conditions. If the CRJ runs into any kind of weather on a trip with the range of CLT-DFW, then it really has no holding time, and will have to divert to an alternate.

User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Does the ERJ have significantly better range than a CRJ?

AAEagle runs ERJ's DFW-CLT and DFW-GSO, and COex runs IAH-GSO and IAH-CLT.

Also, when DL had a DFW hub, they had no problem running RDU-DFW on CR2's, and RDU is further away than CLT.

So I can't imagine US having any problem doing it.



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2638 times:

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 4):
Also, don't forget the possibility for new DAL service to compliment the existing synergized DFW service. Envision this:

PHX-DAL: 3x daily CRJ
CLT-DAL: 3x daily CRJ

By using a 50-passenger CRJ, USAirways would be able to bypass the Wright Amendment and start playing in Southwest's own backyard.

One other thing you might see, if what Jmc1975 mentions comes about, is Air Canada Jazz moving their 3x daily CRJ's on the DFW-YYZ flights to DAL-YYZ, and having US Airways handle the flights, rather than DFW-YYZ with United handling them. Keep in mind that, believe it or not, Dallas-Love Field is a customs rights airport, despite the Wrong Amendment limitations.



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 2538 times:

I didn't think about DL using skywest in the RDU-DFW market. Wow...my rear end would be on fire after that ride.

User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 8):
I didn't think about DL using skywest in the RDU-DFW market. Wow...my rear end would be on fire after that ride.

And don't forget they did DFW-OAK and DFW - JFK on RJs and EAgle is about to start DFW - SYR   

[Edited 2005-05-21 22:36:33]

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

And then there is the KING of all RJ flights.

Bakersfield to Houston. Continental Express. Oil to Oil. Yeehaw.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33273 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 4):
Also, don't forget the possibility for new DAL service to compliment the existing synergized DFW service. Envision this:

Various airlines have tried to run DAL service to hubs using ERJs, Delta Connection to Atlanta and Continental Express to Cleveland, and have never been successful at it. No reason why HP/US will be.



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