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MCO Spotting: 'Use Of Facilities' Permit?  
User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 867 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

On the Orlando Airport website, there is a section under the FAQ area concerning spotting. There is a 'use of facilities' permit to spot - and it sounds like it opens you up to spotting on the ninth floor of the parking garage?

Has anyone used this 'permit' and is that a good place to spot from using a simple digital camera?

Also, is the area along McCoy Road closed or can you park under the flight paths again?

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User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Quoting Jetpixx (Thread starter):
On the Orlando Airport website, there is a section under the FAQ area concerning spotting. There is a 'use of facilities' permit to spot - and it sounds like it opens you up to spotting on the ninth floor of the parking garage?

Yes. Correct.

Quoting Jetpixx (Thread starter):
Has anyone used this 'permit' and is that a good place to spot from using a simple digital camera?

You're going to need some zoom from this location.... AT LEAST 300mm. More if you actually want some action shots.

Quoting Jetpixx (Thread starter):
Also, is the area along McCoy Road closed or can you park under the flight paths again?

It's closed....you will be hunted down and thrown out of there in a second. Orlando is a horrible place to spot at....unless you get lucky in between Ops/airport police/county deputy shifts.

I highly recommend TPA which is just about an hour and a half west on I-4. Excellent places to photograph from.

-Rich


User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3463 times:

Thank you INTENSS - I think a trip to TPA is definitely in order one of these days. For my personal site, I have not had the opportunity to visit TPA for shots just yet and it sounds very spotter friendly. I've gotten several photos from MCO, but it sounds increasingly difficult. Do you know anything about SFB? I'd like to get a shot or two now that Allegiant is serving that airport.

I have FLL and MIA within 45 min, so I am lucky in that respect....

DAN


User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1930 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

Dan, I am an active spotter at MCO and let me tell you, the 9th floor is horrible! I shot 640 effective mm and I can just barely get climb out shots from 35L.


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So with a Point and Shoot Camera, I wouldn't even waste my time there.

Some of my other spots:

Judge Rd, the next road north of Frontage Rd (the old spotting location now blocked off):


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A little higher wing and you need about 200-250mm at most but its better than nothing, I guess.



There are a few other odd spots but they kinda are unsafe from Cops/Airport Authority. MCO is an extremely unfriendly airport but it's not impossible.

As for SFB, it was really friendly until recently when I was kicked out from there. There is a parking lot on the far west side of the airport for landing on 9L. That's about all there is there. I sat there for 4 hours before I got kicked out. You can give it a shot. The international traffic is great but few and far between. Good luck! From that spot at 9L:


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As mentioned earlier, TPA is more friendly but I have had a friend bothered there once and I've been questioned a few times myself. It's still friendlier than MCO but not perfect. Some of my shots from TPA:


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If you have any more questions about MCO or SFB, email me at justinidle@earthlink.net

If you have any questions about TPA, please email the king at TPA, my personal friend who showed me everything at TPA, Ozell Stephens. His username on here is 727Lover.


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Quoting INTENSS (Reply 1):
unless you get lucky in between Ops/airport police/county deputy shifts.

When are these shifts??  Wink

Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 2):
Do you know anything about SFB? I'd like to get a shot or two now that Allegiant is serving that airport.

Since you mention Allegiant, wheren't they supposed to start coming to SFB this month? I dont think they've started yet.

Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 2):
I have FLL and MIA within 45 min, so I am lucky in that respect....

So why would you wanna go to MCO or TPA???

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 3):
I sat there for 4 hours before I got kicked out. You can give it a shot.

Who kicked you out? There was some flight instructor who tried to kick me out last year, I talked to him and explained there isn't anything wrong with what I was doing, and we both share the love for planes etc. He was cool after that and left. However I doubt cops would be anywhere as "understanding".

Btw I was on the other side of the warehouse shooting that Monarch A300 that same day.. (hehehe) I didn't hang out there, just got my shot and left, eventually someone will try to kick you out if you stay too long.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

What about Frontage Road between Semoran and Conway? There are always guys selling Cuban Sandwiches there out of trucks. I figure if they can park there, I can park there. If any cop questions me, I will tell him I am buying a Cuban sandwich.

User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1930 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Nascar, if you read the previous posts, Frontage Rd has been blocked off with fencing and the vendors have been kicked out since December 2002.

-Justin


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

The vendors were there last year when i still lived there. I moved to Orlando in 2003. I am talking about the corner of Conway and Frontage. There was always a truck selling Cuban sandwiches on the corner. It wasn't directly under the approach, but 18R approaches would be close.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

Is Conway where 7-11 is? Nothing hardly lands on 18R.

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 4):
Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 2):
I have FLL and MIA within 45 min, so I am lucky in that respect....

So why would you wanna go to MCO or TPA???

UMM....excuse me, Maybe he wants to experience something different, dude.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 3):
It's still friendlier than MCO but not perfect.

Gosh darn close!!!  Silly



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
Is Conway where 7-11 is? Nothing hardly lands on 18R.

There is a Citgo/7-11 on the corner of Conway and McCoy Extension I believe.

Most arrivals are on 18L, but occassionally they arrive on 18R. If you have a good camera, you could probably pick up the 18L approaches too since the runways aren't that far apart.

A place I tried once where I didn't get problems was along Cargo Road east in that parking lot at the approach to 17R. You have to get back far enough however so the trees don't get in the way. Is there any decent place for approaches to 17L? I never really got a chance to check since 17L opened right before I moved out of Orlando.


User currently offlineINTENSS From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 2):
Do you know anything about SFB? I'd like to get a shot or two now that Allegiant is serving that airport.

I worked the ramp at SFB for about a year. Best traffic is on Thurs-Fri-Sat from about now through August. Best times are from noon to 4pm for arrivals. The UK charters will start departing as early as 3pm with the Travel City 747's hanging around until 9pm or later (common thing due to their MX problems). The east side by the Delta Connection Academy seems to be the best area for arrivals from the east.

The airport authority is a pain to work with. I worked there, had a valid ramp badge - and when I tried to "get permission" to photograph they said no. I brought the point & shoot with me to work and got what I wanted anyhow - but mostly on slow days when the airport authority wasn't out giving us a hard time.

However, if you're just some passenger you can take pictures from the observation "deck" overlooking gates 1-2-3. Explain that. Anyway, hope that helps.


-Rich

[Edited 2005-05-23 13:41:02]

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

SFB is not that great considering Seminole County Sherrif's patrol quite regularly thru there and have been to chase and ticket people off property.


TPA is the best for friendly Ops people.

MCO If you want to do gorrilla shooting its great. Otherwise you will be reported by a crew taxiing around the field. As some of us heard on our scanners. Those Song crews, they have issues. I wouldn't bother with MCO unless you know the hiding spots to get some good pics. I have a few hidden areas that you can get to and avoid being reported.


Also Frontage the cops really love to move people along quite rapidly.

Sean from MCO and MKE



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 12):
I have a few hidden areas that you can get to and avoid being reported.

Don't say it on here, those bastards at GOAA moniter A.net so I've heard. BASTARDS!

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 12):
TPA is the best for friendly Ops people.

I would have agreed with you before April 1. That day I had a run-in with a cop who accused me of trying to ram the fence with my car!!!!!!



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

Some of the parking lots for offices just north of MCO (off Hazeltine National DR, TPC Dr, etc) offer some pretty good, unobstructed views when landing on 18L and, for the most part, the police don't patrol there too often.

I agree though that TPA is far more "spotter friendly" than MCO or SFB.

MxCtrlr  bouncy 



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

Well only if GOAA knows what their doing. Also if they monitor the boards, they would realize that there alot of people who enjoying MCO and love to take pics and just observe the ops of the airport.



Sean from MCO and MKE



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting MxCtrlr (Reply 14):

I agree though that TPA is far more "spotter friendly" than MCO or SFB.

I think it would be good to find out what the laws say about shooting in public property.....if you have a right to be there, then you have a right to take pictures......

a good attourney who knows these laws will probably be able to figure some loophole,

that being said, i'm not sure if its worth it..

easier to be here @ SFO and take pics...where all the cops and the airport security know people come to take pics...



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 15):
Also if they monitor the boards, they would realize that there alot of people who enjoying MCO and love to take pics and just observe the ops of the airport.

They do know...they just don't give a (4-letter word)

I mean, really....SFB and MCO....it must be that Central Florida air.


TPA, PIE, SRQ, FLL, MIA...all near the coast with relatively minor problems.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 16):
I think it would be good to find out what the laws say about shooting in public property.....if you have a right to be there, then you have a right to take pictures......

Since when did anyone's "rights" mean anything to the Ghestapo, er, I mean, TSA? Man, give me some of what you're smoking cause its GOT to be some good shit!

MxCtrlr  bouncy 



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineB744F From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

HAHA you think you have RIGHTS? No chance

User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 4):
Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 2):
I have FLL and MIA within 45 min, so I am lucky in that respect....

So why would you wanna go to MCO or TPA???

UMM....excuse me, Maybe he wants to experience something different, dude.

Yeah - I love FLL and MIA - but I just want to take a trip to MCO, SFB and TPA to get some shots for my personal website (see profile). For instance, Allegiant doesn't fly to my home airports, Monarch, etc. I might even swing back down through SRQ and RSW for fun. I just love variety and going to different places...I'll even take an extra connection if I can fly somewhere I've never been.

I am visiting ORD, MQT and DLH on my vacation starting on Friday - and I am flying through DTW to CAK, so I'll add a lot of photos in the next few days.....

[Edited 2005-05-25 04:30:58]

[Edited 2005-05-25 04:31:59]

User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

With the Patriot act, we can be arrested for anything that we do now, whether what we are doing is illegal or not. If the Gestapo aka New World Order or whatever you want to call it "thinks" we are doing something suspicious, the Patriot Act gives them permission to arrest us. There is another article on this board about photographing in public places and how you can be busted for taking pictures of bridges etc.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting MxCtrlr (Reply 18):
Since when did anyone's "rights" mean anything to the Ghestapo, er, I mean, TSA? Man, give me some of what you're smoking cause its GOT to be some good shit!

.......lol..not smoking the funky stuff... Wink

seriously though, I couldn't agree with you more....fortunately though, I really haven't had too many problems with the TSA....

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 21):
If the Gestapo aka New World Order or whatever you want to call it "thinks" we are doing something suspicious, the Patriot Act gives them permission to arrest us. There is another article on this board about photographing in public places and how you can be busted for taking pictures of bridges etc.

yah..I agree.....what a shame........they are pathetic....pretty sad....I think our forefathers must be turning in their graves..

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

I also think the Terminal Top at MCO where the heliport is located is a shitty place to spot. I go up their all the time and a lot of the TSA guys go up their to smoke. I have never filled out a "Use of Facilities" permit and they never bother me.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

I have not been physically hassled by any authorities at MCO but have heard a Song crew call us in. And then we make the run for the border to get away and regroup.


Sean from MCO and MKE



I Don't know where I am anymore
25 APFPilot1985 : if you do come to rsw shoot me an email.
26 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Excuse you dude I was just saying that anything you can catch at MCO could be photographed at FLL and MIA except for maybe Aer Lingus. I wasn't think
27 727LOVER : Kicked out of where????
28 Starlionblue : Just as an OT suggestion, I would recommend not putting your email in clear text on a website. It's a good way to attract spam. Put your email in you
29 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Ok you know where the Amerijet bldg in FLL is? They were using the 27L approach and turning there in the afternoon, great for photos. I was actually
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