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Which BA Flights Will Move To T5 First?  
User currently offlineVirginFSM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

Hi

Just wondering if BA have a plan yet as to which flights will transfer to T5 LHR first? Will all existing flights fit with just the main terminal and one satellite open or will some have to wait until the second satellite opens?

Cheers

VirginFSM

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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3759 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4607 times:

The first flights that land on a Sunday morning.

User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4564 times:

Is all of BA flights going to be from T5?

What carriers are to use T5 other than BA and QF?

Rob!


User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
Is all of BA flights going to be from T5?

Yes. Under one roof at last.

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
What carriers are to use T5 other than BA and QF?

Certainly no more than them. Infact, according to some BA staff users on here not even QF will be going into T5. There've been stacks of threads on this recently, just use the search and you'll find a lot more info.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Quoting VirginFSM (Thread starter):
Just wondering if BA have a plan yet as to which flights will transfer to T5 LHR first? Will all existing flights fit with just the main terminal and one satellite open or will some have to wait until the second satellite opens?

All flights will make the move on the same day, unless there is a change in the current plans, which is unlikely. It will be a challenge managing without the second satellite, but BA is pushing to get the construction date moved up for that phase.

Quoting LHR27C (Reply 3):
according to some BA staff users on here not even QF will be going into T5.

That's correct, QF will not be going to T5. Simply BA.


User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

From what I understand, there's been a bit of discussion around Waterside about suspending the flying program over the weekend of the move to T5. Whether or not this'll happen, who knows! I think it would mitigate some of the risks but the powers that be will need to weigh that against lost revenue.

C.



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User currently offlineFreedomtofly From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 750 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

I'm traveling to LHR from SFO in July on BA. My ticket says T1 but as of now I'm assuming I will be in the new T5, is that correct?

Regards,
Aaron



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User currently offlineVS74741R From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

Quoting Freedomtofly (Reply 6):
I'm traveling to LHR from SFO in July on BA. My ticket says T1 but as of now I'm assuming I will be in the new T5, is that correct?

Errrr no, I'm afraid T5 won't be open until 2008  wink 



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User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4209 times:

What will eventually happen to T4?


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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4173 times:

Aren't BA going to keep a couple of flights in any of the other terminals so they have some say in running of the terminals, a la MIA flights out of T3?

Quoting Freedomtofly (Reply 6):
I'm traveling to LHR from SFO in July on BA. My ticket says T1 but as of now I'm assuming I will be in the new T5, is that correct?

Marty McFly? Is that you?  Wink



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4117 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 9):
Aren't BA going to keep a couple of flights in any of the other terminals so they have some say in running of the terminals, a la MIA flights out of T3?

There is a possibility of that, but at present officially everything moves to T5. It largely depends on how ongoing discussions with BAA work out.


User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

If the move is scheduled to take place on a Sunday, then they might curtail the shorthaul flying programme a bit more than normal for a weekend, but wouldn't have thought BA would touch the longhauls.

Isn't the current plan that shorthaul will largely use the main terminal building, while longhaul will be on the first satellite? Sounds like there could still be remote parking required for morning arrivals at T5. Shorthaul might not be too bad if BA can move to reduce turnaround times further, as has been suggested is the aim from a couple of threads on here.



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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Won't QF be using T5 gates for their A380s?

User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3963 times:

So where will QF go?

Will the airlines currently at T4 stay there?

What's the plans for T4?

Will BA's franchise partners, Bmed... go to T5?

Rob!


User currently offlineTheGregster From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

I thought one of the main ideas behind T5 was to accommodate the A380?

User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

When the new Munich Franz Josef Strauss Airport opened, and an entire AIRPORT was moved, I recall that they just did it all at once overnight, with no stepped changes. I would have thought that if you are going to go through all that pain, it would make sense to do so only once!


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

Quoting BA380 (Reply 15):
an entire AIRPORT was moved, I recall that they just did it all at once overnight, with no stepped changes.

It was the same in DEN, I believe.

Re QF not moving to T5, isn't that going to play merry hell with the JSA service, with half the QF/BA codeshare flights going out from different terminals depending on who's operating what ? The joy of operating all the flights out of T4 is the ability to transfer late arriving connecting passengers onto a QF service leaving half an hour later - that won't be so possible if the poor pax has to take two tubes and a bus to get across the airport to where his new flight goes from.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Quoting BA380 (Reply 15):
When the new Munich Franz Josef Strauss Airport opened, and an entire AIRPORT was moved, I recall that they just did it all at once overnight, with no stepped changes. I would have thought that if you are going to go through all that pain, it would make sense to do so only once!

same thing happened when they moved from Kai Tak to Chek Lap Kok...saw it on the History Channel..pretty amazing..they moved the whole thing during the middle of the night!



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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

At the end of the day by the time T5 opens BA and IB will pretty much be operating the routes from LHR to Spain on very similar lines to the BA/QF JSA, so you can logically argue that IB should be alongside BA in T5 as well. Be interesting to see how it all plays out, as several rumblings on here that some BA operations may not move to T5 (Not many), but where would they go, and would it be alongside all the other OneWorld carriers?

I'd expect GB Airways and BMed to relocate to T5 with BA, as they are to intents and purposes BA flights.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 13):
So where will QF go?

Arrangements for QF and other Oneworld carriers are part of the on-going discussions with BAA. Nothing concrete has been finalised, but ideas have been discussed....no details on exactly what has been proposed.

Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 18):
Be interesting to see how it all plays out, as several rumblings on here that some BA operations may not move to T5 (Not many), but where would they go, and would it be alongside all the other OneWorld carriers?

Officially all BA operations will be moving to T5. If that will change is still an unknown at this point, but as staff have been informed, that decision will be partly based on the outcome of the discussions with BAA regarding other OneWorld carriers.


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2975 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Moving from one terminal to another in the same airport is a large undertaking but not too uncommon. Moving from one airport to another is even larger, once in a liftime event.
JL & NH just did that with the new NGO. NH moved from T1 to T2 at HND last December. CX did it with new HKG. All went without too much distruption to flight ops.
LHR is a curfew airport. It's not like there's flight coming and going at 0200. If BA & BAA can't do it without much service disruption, it will be poor planning on their part.


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3353 times:
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Please forgive my ignorance, but why exactly does BA get T5? Do they share development and construction costs with BAA, etc? Or is it simply a case of bias?

Rgds

SA7700



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

BA needs T5 because at present operations are spread over 3 terminals and as a result, BA isn't operating as efficiently as possible. T5 will also make it easier for our connecting passengers.

T5 costs are done on basis of landing fees in addition to other finanacing for the project, so the costs are shared. It might seem as a bias towards BA, but BA is the largest carrier at LHR and needs the facilities. Further there is added benefit to all operators at LHR as T5 will allow carriers to move around and have more space available in the other terminals. In particular, space will be freed in T1 and 4 so airlines will be able to move there and allow more room in T3. All airlines therefore will benefit in some way from T5.


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3267 times:
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Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 22):
T5 costs are done on basis of landing fees in addition to other finanacing for the project, so the costs are shared

Thanks Speedbird, it seems fair if the costs are shared.

Rgds

SA7700



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8031 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3184 times:

I think the first BA flights that will move to Terminal 5 will be the international flights, plus long-distance flights by their OneWorld partners (primarily AA, CX, and QF). The A380-compatible parking gates now under construction at Terminal 3 will primarily be used by EK and SQ.

25 Richardw : To avoid confusion to passengers, an overnight switch would be simpler for departures. If the first long haul departures are to be on a Sunday morning
26 Glom : And VS who dominates T3.
27 Cornish : Not to mention Malaysian, Qatar and Etihad A380s too.
28 Speedbird2155 : No, all flights move the same time.....everything will happen over night and starting 30 March 2008 we will be using T5 for domestic, european and in
29 Post contains images VS74741R : Well I wouldn't mind being in the tower on that night seeing all those BA aircraft moving about will look pretty cool!
30 FlyCaledonian : Do you think that other carriers will relocate between terminals at the same time, e.g. LH, SK, LO, OS relocating into T1 the same night as BA vacates
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