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AF's B773ER On CDG-BEY This Summer  
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4108 times:

I came back to Paris on AF565 two days ago on May 24th and I was surprised to board at BEY one of the brand new AF's B777-300ER.

AF566/AF565 CDG-BEY-CDG were tests flights on that day to promote the new AF's First and Business Class to the Lebanese customers.

It was said that AF could use regularly the B773ER to BEY this summer to boost its capacity in J and Y : The B773ER are configured with 8P/67J/235Y against 12P/58J/202Y for the B772ER.

AF will also offer an additional flight (AF562/561) with a B772ER on Fridays during the highest peak of the summer season from June 28 to early sept.


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Next winter, the B772ER will be replaced on Tu./Sa/Su.by an A343. It will reduce the offer in J (30J iso 58J) but will increase the offer in Y from 202Y to 261Y, as the a/c used for this flight will be equipped with the new seats configuration (30J/261Y).


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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4085 times:

Good news for BEY!

Where do AF operate the 77W to:
CDG-JFK
CDG-BEY
CDG-YUL???
CDG-PEK
CDG-SIN

Where else is there?

Rob!


User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4077 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
CDG-YUL???

Why the ???. AF does operate the 773ER to YUL. I was on this flight 72 hours ago.



E volavo, volavo felice più in alto del sole, e ancora più su mentre il mondo pian piano spariva lontano laggiù ...
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4060 times:

Where esle is there

CDG-NRT
CDG-LAD
CDG-HKG
CDG-KIX


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4048 times:

Quoting YUL332LX (Reply 2):
Why the ???. AF does operate the 773ER to YUL. I was on this flight 72 hours ago.

Just checking, I was'nt sure if AF used the 772 to YUL!  Wink

Rob!


User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4033 times:

This summer, AF offers 3 X Daily flights on CDG-YUL-CDG :

1 x B773ER
1 x B744
1 x A343

 wideeyed 


User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 5):
1 x B773ER
1 x B744
1 x A343

Actually, the third flight is operated with the 332. This is an excellent mix.



E volavo, volavo felice più in alto del sole, e ancora più su mentre il mondo pian piano spariva lontano laggiù ...
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Well, I flew AF348 last April 29th and AF349 on April 30 and it was an A343 both legs ... Both flights were full with 3 non rev on jumpseat.
On AF349, about 10 non rev. PAX couldn't board and stayed on the ground...

I think AF switch from A343 to A332 on certain days, according to the booking, that was one of the interest to operate both a/c types.


User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

AF had "only" two flights in April, operated by 77W/343.

The AF summer sked in YUL started in the second week of May. The 332 has operated AF348/349 since then.

The sked shows AF348/349 with a 332 until mid-October but I guess it could be switched to the A343 if need be!

Still, 1000 seats/day is quite impressive! I was on AF344 earlier this week, and the flight was full too.



E volavo, volavo felice più in alto del sole, e ancora più su mentre il mondo pian piano spariva lontano laggiù ...
User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Where esle is there
CDG-NRT
CDG-LAD
CDG-HKG
CDG-KIX

Why the 773 to LAD? Isn't that an ex-Portugese colony? Where does the demand come from?

KL911



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 9):
Why the 773 to LAD?

Good question. I know AF has a codeshare partnership with TAAG, which operates the B747 LAD-CDG.

LAD is a very high-yielding market, and the Angolan Government restricts operations in LAD. I'm sure AF, BA and TP would operate daily to LAD. However, due to restrictions, these airlines only fly to LAD 3/4 weekly flights.

Rgs,


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

Why the 773 to LAD? Isn't that an ex-Portugese colony? Where does the demand come from

It's only a once a week flight and there is a small Angolan community in France(from Cabinda?) even though it was a Portuguese colony as you say.The oil industry accounts for a high % of traffic though.


User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

TP I understand, but BA and AF?

KL911



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 12):
TP I understand, but BA and AF?

OIL. A single word. Plenty of oil & gas in Angola. This keeps the BA and AF flight full.

Rgs,


User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5084 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

If it's oil, where is KLM? They fly to every oil destination in the world...

KL911



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Why Luanda ?

Oil.

And the highest yield of ALL AF's network.

The codeshare agreement AF/TAAG has ended.
AF was operating a B772ER on the route and wanted to add frequencies, but did not receive authorizations from the Angola Government, so the weekly frequency was upgraded last year to a B773ER. Full flight every week.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 15):
AF was operating a B772ER on the route and wanted to add frequencies, but did not receive authorizations from the Angola Government, so the weekly frequency was upgraded last year to a B773ER

I thought so.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 15):
And the highest yield of ALL AF's network.

Very interesting info, thanks.

Quoting KL911 (Reply 14):
If it's oil, where is KLM?

KL does not fly to all oil destinations. AF has a more comprehensive network for oild destinations (including nonstop to GIG, RUH, JED to name a few). In addition, AF has a specific FF programme for the oil industry called Petroleum Club. I would say that AF and Continental are the airlines of the oil industry per se.

The following are AF's Petroleum Club destinations:

Abidjan, Abu Dhabi, Amman, Atlanta, Bangkok, Beirut, Beijing, Bombay, Boston, Brazzaville, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Caracas, Cincinnati, Cotonou, Damascus, Douala, Dubai, Hong Kong, Houston, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Kinshasa, Lagos, Libreville, Lome, Luanda, Manila, Mexico, Miami, N'Djamena, New York, Niamey, Nouakchott, Port Harcourt, Rio de Janeiro, Riyadh, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, Singapore and Yaounde.

Rgs,


User currently offlineMEA330 From Lebanon, joined Aug 2002, 276 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

Hello FlySSC

I've seen an AF B777-300ER at gate 23 in BEY Monday 9th of May. It must have been for the high demand on BEY-CDG as people were returning to Paris after welcoming general Aoun in Beirut.

Since you travel a lot to BEY: Why does AF park their planes at gate 23 with the boarding gate at the first door? Is that to let the F class pax out first?
MEA uses the second door on its A332 and it is faster to board and disembark.


User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3722 times:

Good question MEA330 !!!

I really don't know... I doubt it is only to let the P Class pax first out.
AF was used to park on the opposite side just a few years ago, with the A310...

Now, you are right, it's almost always gate 23, sometimes 25.


User currently offlineGoMEA From France, joined Jan 2004, 202 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

Wow!

I can't wait to take some good pics of the 773ER this summer in BEY!!!

It must be something to see those huge GE90-115B engines!

During winter times, I'm sure the other guys will take some pics of the A343s!

It's good to have some variety in the mix of aircrafts AF brings to BEY



MEA raising the Cedar far up in the sky
User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter):
It was said that AF could use regularly the B773ER to BEY this summer to boost its capacity in J and Y : The B773ER are configured with 8P/67J/235Y against 12P/58J/202Y for the B772ER.

FlySSC ...hum hum, you surely mean 12P 56J and 202Y  Wink



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3570 times:

 worried  Yes... The B772ER is 12P/56J/202Y ...
The B744 has 58J in the old P/J/Y version...


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 16):
The following are AF's Petroleum Club destinations:

Abidjan, Abu Dhabi, Amman, Atlanta, Bangkok, Beirut, Beijing, Bombay, Boston, Brazzaville, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Caracas, Cincinnati, Cotonou, Damascus, Douala, Dubai, Hong Kong, Houston, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Kinshasa, Lagos, Libreville, Lome, Luanda, Manila, Mexico, Miami, N'Djamena, New York, Niamey, Nouakchott, Port Harcourt, Rio de Janeiro, Riyadh, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, Singapore and Yaounde.

Don't forget Kish and Los Angeles (everyone forgets the major oil presence here)



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3514 times:

AF doesn't fly yet to Kish Island : No traffic rights granted by the Iranian Authorities for the moment...

But you can add to the list : Malabo (SSG), Pointe Noire (PNR), Tashkent (TAS), and Tehran (THR).

All served by the A319ER "Dedicate" service, except THR (A332).


User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

Awesome news for BEY, I saw AF's 773 on monday the 9th of may also as MEA330 noted, it's such a wonderful sight!

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
Now, you are right, it's almost always gate 23, sometimes 25.

BEY has only 23 gates, what's up with the 25  Smile?

MEA310



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25 Mozart : FlySSC, wonderful news. AF really stands out on the BEY route in comparison to the other European airlines that simply use their small A32S/B737 and c
26 Post contains images FlySSC : BEY has only 23 gates, what's up with the 25 ? You are right MEA310 ! well, not completely : There is indeed no Gate 25 but BEY has in fact only 21 g
27 FlySSC : Mozart, Quite a few flights were already operated by the B773ER in May. The program still mentions the B772ER Daily but it's very easy for AF to switc
28 MEA310 : True, gates 4 & 22 are bus boarding gates which are not used often as the terminals are never at full capacity. MEA310
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