FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2672 times:
I came back to Paris on AF565 two days ago on May 24th and I was surprised to board at BEY one of the brand new AF's B777-300ER.
AF566/AF565 CDG-BEY-CDG were tests flights on that day to promote the new AF's First and Business Class to the Lebanese customers.
It was said that AF could use regularly the B773ER to BEY this summer to boost its capacity in J and Y : The B773ER are configured with 8P/67J/235Y against 12P/58J/202Y for the B772ER.
AF will also offer an additional flight (AF562/561) with a B772ER on Fridays during the highest peak of the summer season from June 28 to early sept.
Next winter, the B772ER will be replaced on Tu./Sa/Su.by an A343. It will reduce the offer in J (30J iso 58J) but will increase the offer in Y from 202Y to 261Y, as the a/c used for this flight will be equipped with the new seats configuration (30J/261Y).
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2485 times:
Well, I flew AF348 last April 29th and AF349 on April 30 and it was an A343 both legs ... Both flights were full with 3 non rev on jumpseat.
On AF349, about 10 non rev. PAX couldn't board and stayed on the ground...
I think AF switch from A343 to A332 on certain days, according to the booking, that was one of the interest to operate both a/c types.
Good question. I know AF has a codeshare partnership with TAAG, which operates the B747 LAD-CDG.
LAD is a very high-yielding market, and the Angolan Government restricts operations in LAD. I'm sure AF, BA and TP would operate daily to LAD. However, due to restrictions, these airlines only fly to LAD 3/4 weekly flights.
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2396 times:
Why the 773 to LAD? Isn't that an ex-Portugese colony? Where does the demand come from
It's only a once a week flight and there is a small Angolan community in France(from Cabinda?) even though it was a Portuguese colony as you say.The oil industry accounts for a high % of traffic though.
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2361 times:
Why Luanda ?
Oil.
And the highest yield of ALL AF's network.
The codeshare agreement AF/TAAG has ended.
AF was operating a B772ER on the route and wanted to add frequencies, but did not receive authorizations from the Angola Government, so the weekly frequency was upgraded last year to a B773ER. Full flight every week.
Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2362 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 15): AF was operating a B772ER on the route and wanted to add frequencies, but did not receive authorizations from the Angola Government, so the weekly frequency was upgraded last year to a B773ER
I thought so.
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 15): And the highest yield of ALL AF's network.
Very interesting info, thanks.
Quoting KL911 (Reply 14): If it's oil, where is KLM?
KL does not fly to all oil destinations. AF has a more comprehensive network for oild destinations (including nonstop to GIG, RUH, JED to name a few). In addition, AF has a specific FF programme for the oil industry called Petroleum Club. I would say that AF and Continental are the airlines of the oil industry per se.
The following are AF's Petroleum Club destinations:
Abidjan, Abu Dhabi, Amman, Atlanta, Bangkok, Beirut, Beijing, Bombay, Boston, Brazzaville, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Caracas, Cincinnati, Cotonou, Damascus, Douala, Dubai, Hong Kong, Houston, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Kinshasa, Lagos, Libreville, Lome, Luanda, Manila, Mexico, Miami, N'Djamena, New York, Niamey, Nouakchott, Port Harcourt, Rio de Janeiro, Riyadh, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, Singapore and Yaounde.
MEA330 From Lebanon, joined Aug 2002, 268 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2324 times:
Hello FlySSC
I've seen an AF B777-300ER at gate 23 in BEY Monday 9th of May. It must have been for the high demand on BEY-CDG as people were returning to Paris after welcoming general Aoun in Beirut.
Since you travel a lot to BEY: Why does AF park their planes at gate 23 with the boarding gate at the first door? Is that to let the F class pax out first?
MEA uses the second door on its A332 and it is faster to board and disembark.
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2286 times:
Good question MEA330 !!!
I really don't know... I doubt it is only to let the P Class pax first out.
AF was used to park on the opposite side just a few years ago, with the A310...
Now, you are right, it's almost always gate 23, sometimes 25.
Flpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2119 posts, RR: 33 Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2177 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Thread starter): It was said that AF could use regularly the B773ER to BEY this summer to boost its capacity in J and Y : The B773ER are configured with 8P/67J/235Y against 12P/58J/202Y for the B772ER.
FlySSC ...hum hum, you surely mean 12P 56J and 202Y
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25869 posts, RR: 79 Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 16): The following are AF's Petroleum Club destinations:
Abidjan, Abu Dhabi, Amman, Atlanta, Bangkok, Beirut, Beijing, Bombay, Boston, Brazzaville, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Caracas, Cincinnati, Cotonou, Damascus, Douala, Dubai, Hong Kong, Houston, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Kinshasa, Lagos, Libreville, Lome, Luanda, Manila, Mexico, Miami, N'Djamena, New York, Niamey, Nouakchott, Port Harcourt, Rio de Janeiro, Riyadh, Santiago, Sao Paulo, Shanghai, Singapore and Yaounde.
Don't forget Kish and Los Angeles (everyone forgets the major oil presence here)
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MEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
Awesome news for BEY, I saw AF's 773 on monday the 9th of may also as MEA330 noted, it's such a wonderful sight!
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18): Now, you are right, it's almost always gate 23, sometimes 25.
BEY has only 23 gates, what's up with the 25 ?
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25 Mozart: FlySSC, wonderful news. AF really stands out on the BEY route in comparison to the other European airlines that simply use their small A32S/B737 and c
26 FlySSC: BEY has only 23 gates, what's up with the 25 ? You are right MEA310 ! well, not completely : There is indeed no Gate 25 but BEY has in fact only 21 g
27 FlySSC: Mozart, Quite a few flights were already operated by the B773ER in May. The program still mentions the B772ER Daily but it's very easy for AF to switc
28 MEA310: True, gates 4 & 22 are bus boarding gates which are not used often as the terminals are never at full capacity. MEA310
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Yes... The B772ER is 12P/56J/202Y ...
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