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KLM B747-400 Names  
User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 15
Posted (14 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 754 times:

KLM B747-400´s are named after different international cities (i.e. Bangkok, Seoul, Jakarta, Rio de Janeiro, Atlanta, etc).

My question is: which criteria did they take to name a specific city? I know these are cities served by the airline but any other?

Also, who decides this in KLM for this aircraft and others (management, by voting, etc)?

Is KLM expected to receive any new B747-400´s?

Regards

Sebastian

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User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (14 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 373 times:

I once read that they get the names for the cities that either KLM, or KLM 747-400's serve. Although I have reason to doubt this. I have seen a picture in a book that shows one titled 'City of Ottawa'. Does KLM serve YOW, and if so, what aircraft do they use?

LH423



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User currently offlineAnton P. From Sweden, joined Nov 1999, 90 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 353 times:

Here are all the klm 744 names (found on klm homepage)
the names are all in dutch and are displayed on the front left side on the 744 nose (under the captain).
like this:'Atlanta'
on the other side (under the F/O) the name is in english
like this :'City of Atlanta'

PAX stands for 744 all passenger
Combi is a 744 combined cargo and passenger

PAX
PH-BFA Atlanta

PAX
PH-BFB Bangkok

Combi
PH-BFC Calgary

Combi
PH-BFD Dubai

Combi
PH-BFE Melbourne

Combi
PH-BFF Freetown

PAX
PH-BFG Guayaguil

Combi
PH-BFH Hong Kong

Combi
PH-BFI Jakarta

Combi
PH-BFK Karachi

PAX
PH-BFL Lima

Combi
PH-BFM Mexico

PAX
PH-BFN Nairobi

Combi
PH-BFO Orlando

Combi
PH-BFP Paramaribo

Combi
PH-BFR Rio de Janeiro

Combi
PH-BFS Seoul

Combi
PH-BFT Tokio

Combi
PH-BFU Beijing

Combi
PH-BFV Vancouver

Hope this info is appreciated by someone out there!
Cheers
Anton


User currently offlineChiuaua From Netherlands, joined Apr 2000, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 338 times:

There really is no aircraft named "City of Ottawa".
The 737 classic (-300 and -400) have names of famous historic people (like Rontgen). 737NG have bird names (Swan, Grouse), 767 have bridge names (Brooklyn Bridge), MD-11 I don't know, 747-300 have again famous names of aviation pioneers.

Greetings from a former KLM mechanic.


User currently offlineN863DA From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 48 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (14 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 324 times:

Why would there be a 747-400 called 'Atlanta'?

As far as I recall, every time I have ever seen KLM planes in Atlanta, (they get in around 2pm do they not?) they are always 767-300ERs. I have never seen a KLM 747 in Atlanta.

Can anyone enlighten me?



N863DA.


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 331 times:

KLM names the B747-400 after intercontinental destinations they serve at the time of delivery of the aircraft. Moreover they try to give the aircraft a name starting with the last letter of the registration. The fact that a B747-400 flies to a destination is not important (as no B747 has ever flown to Freetown, Guayaquil and Lima).

As Atlanta is the one of the few intercontinental destination starting with an A it's named after this city. Don't forget that B747's used to come to Atlanta (they stopped sending B747's to Atlanta when KLM started to fly to Memphis).

If KLM discontinues a destination that doesn't mean that KLM will alter the name on the B747-400. KLM doesn't fly anymore to Freetown, Orlando, Melbourne and Karachi but the names haven't been changed (why I don't know). As for the City of Ottawa. KLM sometimes changes the name of an aircraft for an inagrual flight. That's why it's possible that you see aircraft with a different name as the name they usually have (after the inagrual flight KLM gives the plane it's original name back).

The next B747-400's will be PH-BFW (oct200), PH-BFY(apr2001), PH-BFZ(sep2004) and PH-BGB(feb2005). The names are not yet know but it wouldn't suprise me if one of these B744 will be the City of Detroit (just like Northwest has the city of Amsterdam).

Regards
Laurens Janssen



User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (14 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 315 times:

Just like City of Detroit, City of Kuala Lumpur is one of the next in line to be named on a Boeing 747-400  

User currently offlineC-fyow From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 308 times:

Hello Lh423:

To answer your question, Yes, KLM did fly
into Ottawa, from 1987 to 1992??.

The original flight landed in June of 1987 a hot
Wed. afternoon under cloudy, hazy skies. The air
craft that touched down was a 747-238 SCD, named
"Dr Albert Plessman". It departed for Halifax at
around 6:15 as KL676, on Wed, and Friday.
Over the next couple of years, KLM operated a third weekly flight, Wed-Fri-Sun. service. Eventually, the 747's gave way to Martinair's
767-300's.
The last flight was in March of 1992, a 767 of
Martinair. KLM ceased Ottawa service because the
route was not profitable.

I do have MANY photos I took of the 747 and 767
of KLM/Martinair when they were in Ottawa.
My favorite is the first flight into Yow on a
hot wed afternoon, especially when the viewing road quickly filled up with the curious waiting for the flying dutchman to touch down!!


User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (14 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 309 times:

Any possibility of a KLM 747-400 being named after the City of New York or London?


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineRob From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 274 times:

In respons to the 'unknown' to what the MD11's of KLM are named after: KLM MD11 are named after famous women:

PH-KCA Dec-93 Amy Johnson
PH-KCB Mar-94 Maria Montessori
PH-KCC Jul-94 Marie Curie
PH-KCD Sep-94 Florence Nightingale
PH-KCE Nov-94 Audrey Hepburn
PH-KCF Dec-94 Annie Romein
PH-KCG May-95 Maria Callas
PH-KCH Sep-95 Anna Pavlova
PH-KCI Nov-95 Mother Theresa
PH-KCK Apr-97 Ingrid Bergman


User currently offlinePlane holland From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 252 times:

PH-BFW KLM 747-400 SUD "City of Shanghai" newest addition,very recently made its first commercial flight.