Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1081 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5445 times:
Seriously?
Where was this reported? I thought they were going to Airbus....
Damn, Boeing is having themselves a fine May. They better get the production rate ramped up.
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10188 posts, RR: 63 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5390 times:
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5374 times:
738 is ideal for Egyptairs intra African routes and perhaps we will now see more destinations served on the African continent. Cairo is the largest city in Africa so lets see more destinations in Africa served by the 738 which has the required range and suitable capacity.
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1081 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5358 times:
That's 127 orders for the 737 announced this month.
Let alone 23 widebody orders.
Whatever they are feeding the Salespeople ($$) they need to keep doing it.
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5338 times:
Wow...what a score for Boeing. Another shocker. Not as big a shocker as the NW order for the 787, but a shocker nonetheless. I especially thought after the 767 crash and the fingerpointing in the FAA that they would rather die than order another Boeing aircraft.
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3): Egyptair was more or less on a way to a Airbus-only fleet.
MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2477 posts, RR: 28 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5299 times:
this is great news!!!! a month ago i still thought they would sell theire 777's in favour of more A330's/A320's , but it seems like they have a good relationship with boeing agaiN! (after the crash it didn't looked to positive)
Aerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2410 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5242 times:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but their A320s are some of the oldest around aren't they? Delivered late 80s. Though this certainly isn't old by aviation standards. I could see them as pretty strong 739X candidtaes now, though I believe they also have some A321s so that could be messy.
Are those orders quoted above for the 737 inclusive of the Lion Air purchase? Because I have serious doubts about the long term viability of that order and desirability of having it on the books for Boeing.
PHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5127 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3): Egyptair was more or less on a way to a Airbus-only fleet. A 738 would not really fit into that fleet simplification.
You probably said the same thing about Air Canada and Northwest. Congrats to Boeing!
Udo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4995 times:
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 8): Wow...what a score for Boeing. Another shocker.
Shocker? Not even surprising. Egypt Air has always operated a mixed fleet and after their recent A320 and A330 orders it was time to order some Boeings. Egypt is like China, they simply try to keep the political balance.
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 8): I especially thought after the 767 crash and the fingerpointing in the FAA that they would rather die than order another Boeing aircraft.
No way, they would not kill the cow which feeds them...
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7312 posts, RR: 61 Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4870 times:
Their A320s are some of the oldest around, delivered in the 80
Not really.
MS is operating a fleet of 12 A320. The oldest one was delivered in May 1991. 4 more between MAY and Nov. 1991. 2 in 1993 and 5 in 2003. They also fly 2 A321 delivered in 1997.
This is far from being an "old" fleet.
If true, this is a quite surprising order... MS's 737 was reduced to only 3 B735... and extra A320/A321 or even A319 to replace those B735 would have been more logical.
Korg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4424 times:
I'm in shock. Boeing must've offered a really good price on these 738s. They operate the A320 already. I kind of expect the 7 old A320s to be phased out soon. Will egyptair get the winglests on these 737s?
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4302 times:
Politics aside..........
I am surprised by this order - I too thought that Egyptair was moving towards an all-Airbus fleet, atleast for narrowbody airliners. There were rumors that Egyptair was preparing to place an order, but it was assumed that the new order would be for regional jets or small airliners in the 70-90 pax class and that the smaller aircraft would be for expansion, local routes and to possibly replace the remaining 735s. Guess not. While I still expect the 735s to be retired in the medium-term future, Egyptair is looking to expand and my guess would be that they will fly the 738s and A32Xs side by side for atleast a few years. Egyptair has always had a very varied fleet, operating many different types.
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4439 posts, RR: 43 Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4272 times:
I would expect MS to equip these B 738s with winglets thus enabling them to fly 4-6 hour flights across Africa, Europe and the Middle East on low density routes. The B 738 with winglets is a better aircraft than the A 320 on 4-6 hour flights and that was the crucial factor why Air India Express chose it over the A 320s when they ordered 15 of the type.
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4210 times:
Egyptair need more capacity for their expanding North European routes, and also growth into Central Europe.
I'm glad to see them expanding, no matter who they buy from. Egypt is another nation which has geography on its side, and the potential for connections via CAI in the future could be a major money earner for them.
A mixed fleet policy for a flag carrier is an operational decision, and one which has its merits too. I've always been wary of the idea of an airline being a 'hostage' to just one manufacturer. But that's just me...
Advancedkid From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 762 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3269 times:
Like Israel, Egypt is a US aid recipient of several billion US$ annual. So it's not surprising at all if the aid is involved.
26 Lightsaber: Wow, this is a surprise. Egyptair was one of the "harsh users" of the V2500. why? Like Saudi, the sand in Egypt is chemically reactive with nickel. T
27 777ER: Way to go Boeing and Egypt Air . When will Airbus start crying foul?
28 Trent900: Hi all, Has everyone forgotten the weaker dollar?? Because the competing aircraft are so evenly matched of course the airlines are going to go for the
29 DOC: How many planes have they sold so far in 2004
30 WhiteHatter: Boeing are also able to offer better delivery slots at the moment due to extra capacity being made available on the 737 lines. That's a major factor.
31 Trent900: Ok, I see now. But I'm sure Airbus went over to Euros a few years back. Or do they deal in both currencies?? If this is the case, this was an illogic
32 777ER: Boeing are also able to offer better delivery slots at the moment due to extra capacity being made available on the 737 lines. That's a major factor.
33 N1120A: I guess those 777s are now built in TLS why in the world would they do that? Except that the 739X will outperform the A321 in everyway That is comple
34 Udo: There were indeed reports some time ago which suggested Egypt Air were thinking about standardizing on A332/342. One reason mentioned was the B777's
35 Ts-ior: Where is our Egyptian specialist Horus I personally prefer wingletted 737s especially when the airline is a LCC !!! It's not the case of Egyptair anyw
36 VirginFlyer: I have just had to remove a bunch of off topic posts. If you want to discuss the merits of Turkey joining the EU (what that has to do with EgyptAir bu
37 FlySSC: N11201 . Reply 33 : This is completely untrue especially with the A321/738 comparison. The 738 has a much greater range, performance and lower fuel b
38 MauriceB: B737-900 Standard range with 177 PAX and reserves : 3815km (2060nm let me remind you that this is the current 900, wich isn't allowed to take more peo
39 FlySSC: ... the new 900X will be able to carry well over the 200 people ... Maybe ... but for the moment, the new -900X is not yet on the market so I think i
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