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Egyptair To Buy 12 737-800s  
User currently offlineBsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

Just in, Egyptair is buying 12 737-800s, did not see this one coming. Way to go Boeing!

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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6292 times:

Seriously?

Where was this reported? I thought they were going to Airbus....

Damn, Boeing is having themselves a fine May. They better get the production rate ramped up.



Knowledge Replaces Fear
User currently offlineBsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6259 times:

Just saw it on Reuters. Sorry, I'm having problems posting the link.

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

Egyptair was more or less on a way to a Airbus-only fleet. A 738 would not really fit into that fleet simplification.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11121 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6237 times:

Link

More good news for Boeing!


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6221 times:

738 is ideal for Egyptairs intra African routes and perhaps we will now see more destinations served on the African continent. Cairo is the largest city in Africa so lets see more destinations in Africa served by the 738 which has the required range and suitable capacity.

User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6205 times:

That's 127 orders for the 737 announced this month.

Let alone 23 widebody orders.

Whatever they are feeding the Salespeople ($$) they need to keep doing it.



Knowledge Replaces Fear
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7027 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6201 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3):
Egyptair was more or less on a way to a Airbus-only fleet. A 738 would not really fit into that fleet simplification

Egyptair is famous for its mixed fleet and the change of aircraft on certain routes.



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6185 times:

Wow...what a score for Boeing. Another shocker. Not as big a shocker as the NW order for the 787, but a shocker nonetheless. I especially thought after the 767 crash and the fingerpointing in the FAA that they would rather die than order another Boeing aircraft.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3):
Egyptair was more or less on a way to a Airbus-only fleet.



One Nation Under God
User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2487 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6146 times:

this is great news!!!! a month ago i still thought they would sell theire 777's in favour of more A330's/A320's , but it seems like they have a good relationship with boeing agaiN! (after the crash it didn't looked to positive)

User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6089 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but their A320s are some of the oldest around aren't they? Delivered late 80s. Though this certainly isn't old by aviation standards. I could see them as pretty strong 739X candidtaes now, though I believe they also have some A321s so that could be messy.

Are those orders quoted above for the 737 inclusive of the Lion Air purchase? Because I have serious doubts about the long term viability of that order and desirability of having it on the books for Boeing.


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6073 times:

I would think the 739s would be good for MS too. Those 321s must suffer from payload penalties at some of Egyptairs hot airfields!

User currently offlinePHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5974 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 3):
Egyptair was more or less on a way to a Airbus-only fleet. A 738 would not really fit into that fleet simplification.

You probably said the same thing about Air Canada and Northwest. Congrats to Boeing!



Keepin' it real.
User currently offlineDAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5948 times:

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 12):
You probably said the same thing about Air Canada and Northwest. Congrats to Boeing!

About AC, yes, about NW, never, if just for their 747s. And I second your Boeing comment  Wink .


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5909 times:

The big question is: will Airbus throw a fit and sue or threaten?  Wink

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5842 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 8):
Wow...what a score for Boeing. Another shocker.

Shocker? Not even surprising. Egypt Air has always operated a mixed fleet and after their recent A320 and A330 orders it was time to order some Boeings. Egypt is like China, they simply try to keep the political balance.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 8):
I especially thought after the 767 crash and the fingerpointing in the FAA that they would rather die than order another Boeing aircraft.

No way, they would not kill the cow which feeds them...  Yeah sure


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5780 times:

Would these new 738's only replace the 737's or the A32X's aswell?

The 900X would be a great choice also for MS!

Rob!


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2487 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5754 times:

Would these new 738's only replace the 737's or the A32X's aswell?

The 900X would be a great choice also for MS!

Rob!


it say's its for expansion...


User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5717 times:

Their A320s are some of the oldest around, delivered in the 80

 no  Not really.

MS is operating a fleet of 12 A320. The oldest one was delivered in May 1991. 4 more between MAY and Nov. 1991. 2 in 1993 and 5 in 2003. They also fly 2 A321 delivered in 1997.
This is far from being an "old" fleet.

If true, this is a quite surprising order... MS's 737 was reduced to only 3 B735... and extra A320/A321 or even A319 to replace those B735 would have been more logical.


User currently offlineKorg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5271 times:

I'm in shock. Boeing must've offered a really good price on these 738s. They operate the A320 already. I kind of expect the 7 old A320s to be phased out soon. Will egyptair get the winglests on these 737s?


Please excuse my English!
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

Politics aside..........

I am surprised by this order - I too thought that Egyptair was moving towards an all-Airbus fleet, atleast for narrowbody airliners. There were rumors that Egyptair was preparing to place an order, but it was assumed that the new order would be for regional jets or small airliners in the 70-90 pax class and that the smaller aircraft would be for expansion, local routes and to possibly replace the remaining 735s. Guess not. While I still expect the 735s to be retired in the medium-term future, Egyptair is looking to expand and my guess would be that they will fly the 738s and A32Xs side by side for atleast a few years. Egyptair has always had a very varied fleet, operating many different types.

Another nice surprise for Boeing.


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5119 times:

I would expect MS to equip these B 738s with winglets thus enabling them to fly 4-6 hour flights across Africa, Europe and the Middle East on low density routes. The B 738 with winglets is a better aircraft than the A 320 on 4-6 hour flights and that was the crucial factor why Air India Express chose it over the A 320s when they ordered 15 of the type.

User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5057 times:

Egyptair need more capacity for their expanding North European routes, and also growth into Central Europe.

I'm glad to see them expanding, no matter who they buy from. Egypt is another nation which has geography on its side, and the potential for connections via CAI in the future could be a major money earner for them.

A mixed fleet policy for a flag carrier is an operational decision, and one which has its merits too. I've always been wary of the idea of an airline being a 'hostage' to just one manufacturer. But that's just me... twocents 


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

Another coup for Boeing.

Looks like the Egyptair/Boeing relationship has improved then since the Egyptian 763 pilot suicide.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineAdvancedkid From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4116 times:

Like Israel, Egypt is a US aid recipient of several billion US$ annual. So it's not surprising at all if the aid is involved.

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25 Futurestar68 : Will those 738s have winglets?
26 Lightsaber : Wow, this is a surprise. Egyptair was one of the "harsh users" of the V2500. why? Like Saudi, the sand in Egypt is chemically reactive with nickel. T
27 Post contains images 777ER : Way to go Boeing and Egypt Air . When will Airbus start crying foul?
28 Post contains images Trent900 : Hi all, Has everyone forgotten the weaker dollar?? Because the competing aircraft are so evenly matched of course the airlines are going to go for the
29 DOC : How many planes have they sold so far in 2004
30 WhiteHatter : Boeing are also able to offer better delivery slots at the moment due to extra capacity being made available on the 737 lines. That's a major factor.
31 Trent900 : Ok, I see now. But I'm sure Airbus went over to Euros a few years back. Or do they deal in both currencies?? If this is the case, this was an illogic
32 777ER : Boeing are also able to offer better delivery slots at the moment due to extra capacity being made available on the 737 lines. That's a major factor.
33 N1120A : I guess those 777s are now built in TLS why in the world would they do that? Except that the 739X will outperform the A321 in everyway That is comple
34 Udo : There were indeed reports some time ago which suggested Egypt Air were thinking about standardizing on A332/342. One reason mentioned was the B777's
35 Post contains images Ts-ior : Where is our Egyptian specialist Horus I personally prefer wingletted 737s especially when the airline is a LCC !!! It's not the case of Egyptair anyw
36 VirginFlyer : I have just had to remove a bunch of off topic posts. If you want to discuss the merits of Turkey joining the EU (what that has to do with EgyptAir bu
37 Post contains images FlySSC : N11201 . Reply 33 : This is completely untrue especially with the A321/738 comparison. The 738 has a much greater range, performance and lower fuel b
38 MauriceB : B737-900 Standard range with 177 PAX and reserves : 3815km (2060nm let me remind you that this is the current 900, wich isn't allowed to take more peo
39 FlySSC : ... the new 900X will be able to carry well over the 200 people ... Maybe ... but for the moment, the new -900X is not yet on the market so I think i
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