Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7256 times:
738 is ideal for Egyptairs intra African routes and perhaps we will now see more destinations served on the African continent. Cairo is the largest city in Africa so lets see more destinations in Africa served by the 738 which has the required range and suitable capacity.
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7220 times:
Wow...what a score for Boeing. Another shocker. Not as big a shocker as the NW order for the 787, but a shocker nonetheless. I especially thought after the 767 crash and the fingerpointing in the FAA that they would rather die than order another Boeing aircraft.
MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2492 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7181 times:
this is great news!!!! a month ago i still thought they would sell theire 777's in favour of more A330's/A320's , but it seems like they have a good relationship with boeing agaiN! (after the crash it didn't looked to positive)
Aerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 3069 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7124 times:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but their A320s are some of the oldest around aren't they? Delivered late 80s. Though this certainly isn't old by aviation standards. I could see them as pretty strong 739X candidtaes now, though I believe they also have some A321s so that could be messy.
Are those orders quoted above for the 737 inclusive of the Lion Air purchase? Because I have serious doubts about the long term viability of that order and desirability of having it on the books for Boeing.
Udo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 week ago) and read 6877 times:
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 8): Wow...what a score for Boeing. Another shocker.
Shocker? Not even surprising. Egypt Air has always operated a mixed fleet and after their recent A320 and A330 orders it was time to order some Boeings. Egypt is like China, they simply try to keep the political balance.
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 8): I especially thought after the 767 crash and the fingerpointing in the FAA that they would rather die than order another Boeing aircraft.
No way, they would not kill the cow which feeds them...
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7494 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 week ago) and read 6752 times:
Their A320s are some of the oldest around, delivered in the 80
MS is operating a fleet of 12 A320. The oldest one was delivered in May 1991. 4 more between MAY and Nov. 1991. 2 in 1993 and 5 in 2003. They also fly 2 A321 delivered in 1997.
This is far from being an "old" fleet.
If true, this is a quite surprising order... MS's 737 was reduced to only 3 B735... and extra A320/A321 or even A319 to replace those B735 would have been more logical.
Korg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6306 times:
I'm in shock. Boeing must've offered a really good price on these 738s. They operate the A320 already. I kind of expect the 7 old A320s to be phased out soon. Will egyptair get the winglests on these 737s?
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6184 times:
I am surprised by this order - I too thought that Egyptair was moving towards an all-Airbus fleet, atleast for narrowbody airliners. There were rumors that Egyptair was preparing to place an order, but it was assumed that the new order would be for regional jets or small airliners in the 70-90 pax class and that the smaller aircraft would be for expansion, local routes and to possibly replace the remaining 735s. Guess not. While I still expect the 735s to be retired in the medium-term future, Egyptair is looking to expand and my guess would be that they will fly the 738s and A32Xs side by side for atleast a few years. Egyptair has always had a very varied fleet, operating many different types.
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 5356 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6154 times:
I would expect MS to equip these B 738s with winglets thus enabling them to fly 4-6 hour flights across Africa, Europe and the Middle East on low density routes. The B 738 with winglets is a better aircraft than the A 320 on 4-6 hour flights and that was the crucial factor why Air India Express chose it over the A 320s when they ordered 15 of the type.
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6092 times:
Egyptair need more capacity for their expanding North European routes, and also growth into Central Europe.
I'm glad to see them expanding, no matter who they buy from. Egypt is another nation which has geography on its side, and the potential for connections via CAI in the future could be a major money earner for them.
A mixed fleet policy for a flag carrier is an operational decision, and one which has its merits too. I've always been wary of the idea of an airline being a 'hostage' to just one manufacturer. But that's just me...