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O&D Traffic From Nigeria To Europe (other Than UK)  
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

I am fully aware that Nigeria was formerly a British colony, hence the great amount of O&D traffic between the two countries. A number of European airlines serve Lagos (some also serve additional cities, like Kano, Port Harcourt and Abuja), but I should think that the majority or vast majority of passengers on such services connect to either Britain or the USA. So, my question is: which European airline, bar those from Britain, transports, in your opinion, the most O&D traffic to and from Nigeria from Lagos?


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User currently offlineQM001 From Portugal, joined Mar 2004, 282 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3761 times:

Pe@rson,

As far as I would estimate, I would say KLM who effectively can get pax into almost any regional airport in the UK. This is where KLM Cityhopper assists KLM in offering a vastly superior product to even BA to non Major UK airports. In addition KLM service Shell very well. After KL, I would say LH would be next on the list.

Just my opinion.

QM001 (167 Air Malawi)



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

Hi QM001,

I was asking which European airline - excluding British ones - have the most Origin and Departure traffic (like Amsterdam-Lagos-Amsterdam). I realise that a large proportion of people will be heading for Britain or the USA, but I'm curious about the local demand from other European countries to Nigeria and vice-versa.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

What is O & D?.

I keep hearing this term but never an explanation.


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Origin and Departure. So if I were, say, travelling London-Amsterdam-London, then I would be 'O&D traffic.' If, say, I were flying from Amsterdam to New York, then I would not be this, but rather connecting traffic.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3186 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

A little addition to Pearsons explanation:

If he is traveling London-Amsterdam-London, he will be considered O&D-traffic both in Amsterdam and in London.

If he is traveling London-Amsterdam-New York-Amsterdam-London, he will be considered O&D traffic in London and New York, but connecting traffic in Amsterdam.

Amsterdam relies heavily on connecting traffic. The O&D-traffic in Amsterdam is somewhere between 50%-60%, whereas the connecting traffic makes up for the rest.


User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
Origin and Departure. So if I were, say, travelling London-Amsterdam-London, then I would be 'O&D traffic.' If, say, I were flying from Amsterdam to New York, then I would not be this, but rather connecting traffic.

Just a minor nitpick, the D stands for destination, as in the end point of the journey of the passenger.



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Yes, I was thinking about something different.  Smile


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

In other words O & D is simply a return journey with no intermediate stops.

User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 8):
In other words O & D is simply a return journey with no intermediate stops

No, O&D for a city/airport refers to the passenger traffic either originating from that city/airport or whose final destination is that city/airport. For a city-pair or airport-pair it refers to passenger traffic that originates at one of the cities/airports whose final destination is the other city/airport. Round trips would be origin traffic for both cities/airports as well as destination traffic for both cities/airports, whereas a one way journey would be origin traffic for the starting city/airport and destination traffic for the other city/airpot. Intermediate stops along the way are not part of origin or destination traffic for the stopover city/airport as long as the passenger continues on his way without leaving the airport. Passengers transfering to a connecting flight at a city's airport or transiting through on the same plane are not part of O&D traffic for a city/airport.

O&D traffic for a given city is important because it indicates how much non-connecting traffic a particular city can generate, either from residents from the city and surrounding region departing from and returning to the city or from visitors coming to the city/area and going back to their city of residence or another city. It is a measure of the captive audience that a city/regional market can provide. O&D traffic between a city-pair is a measure of how much traffic travels between two cities regardless of whether the trip has stops or is nonstop. It is used to determine what aggregate capacity on the route between those cities, either non-stop or through a hub(s), can be supported, and whether nonstop flights are warranted or not.



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

I don't have the figures but AZ has a huge traffic on its MXP-LOS-MXP, although the LOS-MXP stops at ACC


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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4850 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3652 times:

After LHR, I would imagine CDG sees the most O&D movement for Nigeria-EU flights compared to FRA, MXP or AMS!

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 11):
After LHR, I would imagine CDG sees the most O&D movement for Nigeria-EU flights compared to FRA, MXP or AMS!

I it's a close call between France - Nigeria and The Netherlands Nigeria. There is a sizable Nigerian community in Amsterdam and then you've the oil business. However France has more exports and imports with Nigeria,


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