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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

why are there transavia airplanes flying for sun country airlines and sun country airplanes flying for transavia?


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User currently offlinePremobrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

Sun Country has a deal with Transavia to lease some of their aircraft for the winter months when Sun Country's business booms with people from Minnesota wanting to get out of the cold and go to all of the warm destinations in Mexico.


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User currently offlineLarspl From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

because the airlines need the extra capacity during certain months.
its that simple.



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1688 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Cancidas,

They have a similar deal with South African: in fact PH-HZU is operating now with Transavia titles and -tailcolours (rest is white), and is the only winglet operating 737-800 at the moment; during the winter-period, HV is leasing out some -800's to SA for their demand  Wink



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 3):
They have a similar deal with South African: in fact PH-HZU is operating now with Transavia titles and -tailcolours (rest is white),

And the PH-HZZ is doing the same (thus two South African 737-800s are flying for HV)

Quoting Larspl (Reply 2):
because the airlines need the extra capacity during certain months.

the odd thing is that while HV leases two 737s, they've leased out one 737 to KLM (will fly for HV during July and August). They needed the Sun County 737 as they leased one 737 to KLM and one to Air Berlin which returned recently. The Sun Country 737 has been returned to Sun Country a few days ago.


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2387 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

There are a lot of similar relationships between European and North American charter carriers. Excel Airways has similar deals with Miami Air and Zoom Airlines, First Choice Airways and MyTravel with Skyservice Airlines, Thomas Cook with USA 3000 and Ryan International, Futura with Ryan International etc.


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User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2040 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

You all are correct. 807 (the Spirit of Braniff) is home and back to flying with us.


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

I thought the SCY Hybrids were ugly but when Transavia takes a SCY bird and uses it their hybrids are worse! I hope those are stickers that are put over the big "S" on the tail!

User currently offlineSunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2040 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

NIKV69 807 is back to normal, and yes they were stickers. Our MX had 807 back flying for us the day after she came back.


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12099 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3259 times:
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I think it is great how these small carriers can think outside the box and find solutions that work and are cost effective for both parties.


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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 9):
I think it is great how these small carriers can think outside the box and find solutions that work and are cost effective for both parties.

It´s been standard procedure for quite a while and for a number of carriers (see reply #5)



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Air Europe started this exchange of fleets with Air Florida in the early 80s and it was very new idea in those days.

They swapped 737s with Air Florida as AE and Air Florida had differing busy seasons. AE sent a 732 over the pond in winter and Air Florida sent a 732 over to AE for our Summer season.


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 4):
the odd thing is that while HV leases two 737s, they've leased out one 737 to KLM (will fly for HV during July and August). They needed the Sun County 737 as they leased one 737 to KLM

After the Barcelona incident with PH-BTC KL needed a replacement. It was probably the cheapest way to take one from HV (owned by KL) and let HV lease one from Sun Country instead of letting KL lease on from Sun directly. HV has/had already leased out 7 of their 737 to Sun during the winter.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

The Transavia plane which flies for KLM nowadays is primary used on the route between AMS and IST ! Anybody knows why? Kind of charter destination for KLM?

Aircraft I mean is PH-HZM :


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User currently offlineLarspl From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3074 times:

it probably didn't get the businessclass/klm pitch and still has the full 189 Y in transavia config. and IST is probably a destination where they actually can use such a config..


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12099 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3072 times:
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Quoting HT (Reply 10):
It´s been standard procedure for quite a while and for a number of carriers (see reply #5)

I had read that response and my comment was on the fact that carriers did this in effort to help each other and most important to help the bottom line.



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User currently offlineVain~ From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting Larspl (Reply 14):
it probably didn't get the businessclass/klm pitch and still has the full 189 Y in transavia config. and IST is probably a destination where they actually can use such a config..

PH-HZM is in the normal KLM-config with HV-seats (168 or 172 can't remember), standard HV-config 737-800 is 186 seats


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