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Etihad Confirmed For YYZ In October  
User currently offlineFiaz From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 94 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3619 times:
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I have heard that Etihad airlines is comfired to start servce to yyz starting in october...has anyone else heard this to

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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

It has been planned for some time. I believe it will operate AUH-BRU-YYZ. I'm not sure whether or not they will be free to sell tickets on the BRU-YYZ-BRU sectors, although I suspect this is the plan - can anyone confirm?

User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2336 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

I have a feeling that they will use the A340-300 on route instead of the A330.


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 2):
I'm not sure whether or not they will be free to sell tickets on the BRU-YYZ-BRU sectors, although I suspect this is the plan - can anyone confirm?

I heard from several sources that SN Brussels Airlines are going to do the sales for BRU-YYZ-BRU passengers.

And October is also the date I heard circulating...

Frederic


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Oct 31st is what EYs Guest Affairs Manager in AUH has said is the starting date of the route and it will be A 332s flying AUH-BRU-YYZ 3 times a week initially.

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3338 times:
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Quoting Behramjee (Reply 4):
Oct 31st is what EYs Guest Affairs Manager in AUH has said is the starting date of the route and it will be A 332s flying AUH-BRU-YYZ 3 times a week initially.

Let's wait and see. AFAIK Etihad has no ETOPS experience and maybe they could be obliged to fly the A343 at first.
Spotting wise here at BRU, an A340 would be great to us !!  Wink
I really hope SNBA and EY will soon become partner.

FB.



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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 5):
Let's wait and see. AFAIK Etihad has no ETOPS experience and maybe they could be obliged to fly the A343 at first.

I'm not sure this should make a massive difference. From a flight planning point of view, they may have to contract this out to another carrier, i.e. Lufthansa, who issue the ETOPS flight plans for bmi, for example.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3275 times:
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Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 6):
I'm not sure this should make a massive difference. From a flight planning point of view, they may have to contract this out to another carrier, i.e. Lufthansa, who issue the ETOPS flight plans for bmi, for example.

Well AFAIK, ETOPS is a certification. So the airline has to prove its capability to fly in such conditions.
3 years ago when VG Airlines was flying from BRU to NYC/BOS and LAX they had this major ETOPS problem with the A332s though they were flying with ex-Sabena planes and crews. They a probe period before it got granted but as a result they were flying 45 minutes longer than AA and DL on the BRU-JFK route !!

FB.



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Yes EY doesnt have 5th freedom traffic rights on this route but it is codesharing with SN who will be selling the seats for them.

EY is hopeful that yields out of BRU will be high as it will be the only Arab airline flying there plus perhaps the only Asian one too? Am I right or wrong or does another Asian airline fly to BRU?


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2942 times:
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Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
EY is hopeful that yields out of BRU will be high as it will be the only Arab airline flying there plus perhaps the only Asian one too? Am I right or wrong or does another Asian airline fly to BRU?

Don't forget that Jet Airways will launch its BOM-BRU-EWR service "anytime soon"... And that negociations are still on the way to have a chinese route before the end of 2005.

But indeed coming to BRU is a very smart move from EY.

FB.



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User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1286 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Finally we can admire some possible activity out of BRU. It will be really nice if EY is working together with SN on these routes. We could see a strategic partnership arise. Let's hope Jet Airways materializes, as well as that Chinese route. And why wouldn't SQ return to BRU?

BRU cannot support dozens of flights to Asia but I think that links to North Asia, North East Asia, South Asia & South East Asia are viable.



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

I hope EY don't send the 343 to YYZ and BRU because they will be stealing her away from LGW Big grin

Good luck EY!

Rob!


User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):
EY is hopeful that yields out of BRU will be high as it will be the only Arab airline flying there plus perhaps the only Asian one too? Am I right or wrong or does another Asian airline fly to BRU?

Well, I would think that Tunisair, RAM, Air Algérie and Egyptair all qualify as Arab airlines!



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User currently offlineGuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 838 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 12):
Well, I would think that Tunisair, RAM, Air Algérie and Egyptair all qualify as Arab airlines!

The major difference is that ETIHAD won't be a dry airline when it comes to inflight service.


User currently offlineACB777 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 350 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Will EK still have the chance of flying to YYZ despite Ethiad flying to Toronto?

User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Quoting ACB777 (Reply 14):
Will EK still have the chance of flying to YYZ despite Ethiad flying to Toronto?

I see no reason why EK would not make a bigger success of YYZ than EY. Emirates operates a more global network and would be able to provide convenient connections to/from South Asia and East Africa. Etihad operates a MUCH smaller network with few frequencies.



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User currently offlineShawnnyc From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 15):
I see no reason why EK would not make a bigger success of YYZ than EY. Emirates operates a more global network and would be able to provide convenient connections to/from South Asia and East Africa. Etihad operates a MUCH smaller network with few frequencies.

Would anyone connect from YYZ to East Africa on EK or EY? The flight seems like it is primarily meant for Canada - South Asia and Iran traffic.


User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting ACB777 (Reply 14):
Will EK still have the chance of flying to YYZ despite Ethiad flying to Toronto?

Current Canada-UAE bilateral agreement only allows for one carrier from each country to operate flights between the countries. So unless the bilateral is amended, EY starting a route to Canada (YYZ) would effectively block EK out of Canada.

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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2074 times:
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Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 17):
Current Canada-UAE bilateral agreement only allows for one carrier from each country to operate flights between the countries. So unless the bilateral is amended, EY starting a route to Canada (YYZ) would effectively block EK out of Canada.

In this case, that YYZ-AUH service would defenitly be a smart move from EY !!

FB.



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