Airman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 981 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4539 times:
In my mind I would have to go with the SST. everyone wants faster!! People are wanting to go places so much faster and get their business done and get home out of it!! But I think that this will take a long time yet. So that is why you are going to see the A-3XX around and some sort of competition aircraft from Boeing. I would guess that it will be a strech of the 747. Or even some huge aircraft from the russians, if people would lose this stupid stigma over the russian planes!! Remember Antonov is known for building the largest aircrafts that the world has seen!! so who knows there might even be a consortium between Russian and the Americans to build the next SST seeing that the americans used the Tu-144 for trials?!?!
ATRpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4537 times:
I think you will see super efficient type airplanes. With the coming reduction in avalibility of fossil fuels and the climbing price of such fuels, I think thats how things are going to shake out. I don't believe that the airplanes will be as big as the A3XX, which is too large to safely evacuate in an emergency. These airplanes probably won't be supersonic, as no forseable technology will produce supersonic speeds efficiently.
Ual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4537 times:
I think that in the future we will see larger and larger aircraft as the demand for airtravel increases. The reason for this is because we already have more people flying, and with already crowded skies, the need for larger jets is great to clear up sky congestion. What we will eventually see is ONLY twin-jets. They will be cheaper to operate, and be super quiet. Kinda like sitting in first class of an MD-80 on take off. I predict that we will see 747X sized aircraft or larger operated with only two MASSIVE engines. The service will continue to get better and better and I think that eventually, we will see airlines go back to the way they were in the golden years of flying. Mabye no piano bars, but definitely an improvement on whats out there now.
ATRpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4528 times:
I agree with you about the twinjets, but not about the size. Not only do you have an obvious passenger evacuation safety issue, but we have just about reached the limit of structural ability as far as metals and composites go.
I think the capacity issue will be handled with better flow control and innovative air traffic control techiniques such as GPS and WAAS. More runways will help as well.
I also agree about service, especially in the US and Europe. I don't think the flying public would have it any other way. You think that maybe eventually we will see two distinctly different types of airlines? One totally service oriented and the other more like a skybus?
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4520 times:
Trans Pacific and Atlantic SST flights to and from major cities as well as long over land routes like Asia, Europe and Africa. I can see SST aircraft being faster and fuel more efficient than the concorde. Boeing and Airbus will have a whole new competition. Also I think SST aircraft will be cheaper for airlines to operate rether than operating the jets currently flying our skies today.
Boeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4501 times:
I am in the "Faster" camp for future growth in the commercial airline industry. Given the choice on long routes, many business travelers will choose the faster option. This would open up new markets for a premium traveler for whom time is money.
Seeing recent developments in powerplants that are much more efficient and can power stealthy military jets beyond the speed of sound without afterburners, I hold out hope that commercial airliners will be powered by higher thrust versions of these powerplants or their derrivatives.
I don't see SST replacing too many existing planes but as a new growth plane. Of the existing fleets, I believe the market for a few super large planes exist, but trends toward fragmentation and improvments in ATC technology will make the market small and probably unprofitable for manufaturers. I like the 747 derrivatives for expanding capacity without breaking the bank.
PH-BZA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4502 times:
Probably efficient aircraft such as McDonnell-Douglass's proposed BWB's (Blended Wing Body), which could seat nearly 800 people. Aircraft such as the Boeing 747 or the A3XX probably wouldn't exist because of their design which has been around ever since the 1st 707's and jet aircraft entered service.
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4497 times:
Well, of course the one that everyone will want will never be built simply because it will not be possible. But, if you can build a plane that:
Can do SST with the range of an MD-11 or 747-400 but retains short range capability of the 717. Can be built for the cost of an A320 or 737NG. Has a life span of 20 years/60,000 cycles. Can carry up to 350 pax. And the airlines can operate it with Midwest Express type service at 21 day Southwest bargain fares.
If any a/c mfr can produce a product like that, they will have the next DC-3.
This criteria is of course based on what the public wants......