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Jet Airways India (9W) A Security Threat To US?  
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15596 times:

...claims "Delaware-based Jet Airways Inc", some wannabe Airline.. ! They have filed objections against 9Ws planned flights to the US, as "this would allegedly give Al-Qaeda "scope to fly and control aircraft" over American cities. These people claim there to be a financial connection to Al-Quaeda.

This article is absolut hillarious! Either it is Hoax, or these people from that other Jet Airways have swallowed their own nuts, or are just dumb and destructive, or they see them - without reason - in conflict to own bisuness interests, or...???

My thesis is that they are just a crew of dumbasses. REead this core quote:

"No matter how wonderful the service and the (Jet) airline may be in India, it is still an enterprise which is used to launder money for Al-Qaeda and is still an Al-Qaeda airline," alleged Nancy M Heckerman, chief executive officer and president of the Jet Airways Inc.

 bigthumbsup  ! Jet an Al-Queda Airline! So what is United then? Air George Bush, and US Airways?

How stupid and unethical can people be? Read the article, it is hillarious! A bad business practice



Setback to Jet Airways Mumbai-Newark flight launch


The plan of the Jet Airways to launch the Mumbai-Newark flight - the first by any private Indian airlines -- from June 23 seems to have received a major setback.

A little known American airlines with the same name tag has challenged before the US Department of Transportation (DOT) the Jet Airways application seeking a "foreign air carrier permit" under the open skies agreement signed between the two countries in mid-April.

The Delaware-based Jet Airways Inc - which is yet to launch its commercial operations -- in its objection on May 23 before DOT claimed that the Jet Airways (India), if given the permit, would threaten the US' national security as this would allegedly give Al-Qaeda "scope to fly and control aircraft" over American cities.


Full Article: http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1384546,00050001.htm



What do ya guys think? For me, a good laugh.. Big grin

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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15563 times:

Mrniji,

This has to be the most hilarious article I've ever read. I'm sorry to say, but the COO of the Delaware's Jet Airways... does not make any sense. Oh well...  duck 

Thanks for the laughs man!


Cheers! wave 
Gastón - The MD-11 Junkie



There is no such thing as Boeing vs Airbus as the queen of the skies has three engines, winglets and the sweetest nose!
User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15558 times:

there are couple of question i'd like to ask that US company...

what happenes when 9W comes over to SEA to take delivary of their aircrafts? Isn't it a security threat then!!

I think 9W should consider Europe this time.

Quoting Mrniji (Thread starter):
This article is absolut hillarious! Either it is Hoax, or these people from that other Jet Airways have swallowed their own nuts, or are just dumb and destructive, or they see them - without reason - in conflict to own bisuness interests, or...???

I'd say we A.netter are to blame for so much publicity of 9W well before its launch. I think these folks can hear 9W's cash register ringing. You bet the noise must be quite deafening.

Quoting Mrniji (Thread starter):
"No matter how wonderful the service and the (Jet) airline may be in India, it is still an enterprise which is used to launder money for Al-Qaeda and is still an Al-Qaeda airline," alleged Nancy M Heckerman, chief executive officer and president of the Jet Airways Inc.

just overheard somewhere that FBI is hiring...not a bad proposition to drop a defunt airlines and join a govt job....

cheers!!
VT-ASJ

[Edited 2005-06-01 17:56:09]


ala re ala, VT-ALA ala
User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15551 times:

I laughed so much that I almost fell of my chair. Jet Airways Limited has been flying since 1993. Jet Airways Inc. has yet to commence services. The CEO of Jet Airways Inc. should be taken to court for making such baseless allegations.

May be Naresh Goyal can hire Jay to pursue the case against her.



An airplane might disappoint any pilot but it'll never surprise a good one.
User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1785 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15545 times:

This was going to happen. There have been some issues with Jet Airways, like their supposed links to some Dubai mafia underworld and also that their holding company is registered in Cayman Islands or some other such shady tax haven.

Quoting Mrniji (Thread starter):
Jet Airways (India), if given the permit, would threaten the US' national security as this would allegedly give Al-Qaeda "scope to fly and control aircraft" over American cities

This is sheer bullshit, whatever the ownership of 9W may be!



Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15531 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 2):
I'd say we A.netter are to blame for so much publicity of 9W well before its launch. I think these folks can hear 9W's cash register ringing. You bet the noise must be quite deafening.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was some lame ass extortion scheme that failed, so now they are carrying out their threats to make Jet's life more difficult. The question is who are these people and are they acting independently or do they have any ties to anyone else, say Air India.



ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15518 times:

Naresh Goyal has done his share of shady deals over time, but Jet Airways today is about as squeaky clean as it gets. He's been cleaning things up since his big investigation a few years ago and its all nicely transparent and public now.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of Jet's competitors (I'd say Air India but I know they aren't this resourceful but some other private carriers might be) actually put these guys up to it to delay things and hence reduce Jet's first mover advantage in the market.


User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15495 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Thread starter):
The Delaware-based Jet Airways Inc - which is yet to launch its commercial operations -- in its objection on May 23 before DOT claimed that the Jet Airways (India), if given the permit, would threaten the US' national security as this would allegedly give Al-Qaeda "scope to fly and control aircraft" over American cities.

The scoop?!?! So they're only worried they'd do it first? Is that the plan for the DE based JET? Sell airplane rides to terrorists?



When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlineSnehnath From India, joined Apr 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15486 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 2):
I'd say we A.netter are to blame for so much publicity of 9W well before its launch. I think these folks can hear 9W's cash register ringing. You bet the noise must be quite deafening.

I agree. I saw this article a few days back in Aviation Week. I didn't post the message due to the unneccessary hullabaloo it will create for people who don't know 9W.


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15462 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 6):
I wouldn't be surprised if some of Jet's competitors (I'd say Air India but I know they aren't this resourceful but some other private carriers might be) actually put these guys up to it to delay things and hence reduce Jet's first mover advantage in the market.

I had the same suspect... the S2-Parivar? Big grin


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5737 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15403 times:

Ok, I tried to Google Jet Airways Inc. and all I found is a logistics company. Makes no mention of Jet Airways in India and the CEO isn't the same person as menitoned in the article. These guys don't even have planes. I wonder where the Hindustan Times gets their information?

I have a feeling that the article might be BS.

http://www.jet-airways.com



That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15267 times:
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I think that logistics company is different although both seem to be operated by women (not that there's anything wrong with that).

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21478 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15244 times:

I wouldn't worry. Morons like to yell loudly and wave their arms a lot. But if you yell back, all they hear is "who wants cake?" And friend, they all do. They all want cake...


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineTundra767 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2005, 430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15190 times:

This article is ridiculous. It just shows you how ignorant and greedy some companies really are. Its a shame! I hope this is thrown out of the courts and the Jet Airways of India takes some actions against this company.

User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1040 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15103 times:
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Ia Orana all !!!

These people are total idiots ! Jet Airways 9W should send back all Boeings to SEA as Boeing has been laundering Al-Qaeda money too by selling them to 9W.
Jet Airways should threaten to go all Airbus and we'll see what the DOT and department of homeland security will do ! I bet Airbus would be very happy to dump a few A320 family aircraft with Jet Airways on top of the announced A330/A340 family !
Wat a bunch of morons !!! They just want money that's all !!!



Ia Maitai to tatou tere !
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 4756 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 15051 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 6):
I wouldn't be surprised if some of Jet's competitors (I'd say Air India but I know they aren't this resourceful but some other private carriers might be) actually put these guys up to it to delay things and hence reduce Jet's first mover advantage in the market.

I also think that this is the case and totally agree with Sean...it did cross my mind that AI and S2 could have been initially behind it lets say that 9W eventually clears out everything and wins approval for flying to USA...then this Delaware person better start practicing for the marathon because 9W should sue her for damaging the airline's name etc in a very important market.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14963 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 10):
These guys don't even have planes.

They have an IATA code QJ, but their "schedules" on their website is for truck feeder service between airports. http://www.jet-airways.com/timetables/schedules.html

They appear to be a ground handling company and a trucking company rather than an actual airline.

Quoting Mrniji (Thread starter):
..claims "Delaware-based Jet Airways Inc

Just because the company is registered out of Delaware doesn't make them a Delaware-based company. Delta Air Lines is a Delaware-registered company, as is UAL Corp, but we don't refer to them as "Delaware-based".


User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14944 times:

These guys look real enough. Maybe they just wanted money and didn't get it.


ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
User currently offlineMoose1226 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 250 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14870 times:

Quoting AF Cabin Crew (Reply 14):

These people are total idiots ! Jet Airways 9W should send back all Boeings to SEA as Boeing has been laundering Al-Qaeda money too by selling them to 9W.
Jet Airways should threaten to go all Airbus and we'll see what the DOT and department of homeland security will do ! I bet Airbus would be very happy to dump a few A320 family aircraft with Jet Airways on top of the announced A330/A340 family !
Wat a bunch of morons !!! They just want money that's all !!!

Boeing has nothing to do with this. The government of the US has no objection to 9W coming to EWR. It is just this one company that you should be taking objection to. Please don't pin this on the entire US, as that is quite ignorant.

As for the lawsuit, if the government thought that 9W was a risk, they would not allow them into the country. Why should a private company have to 'fight terrorism,' as they seem to think they are doing.

Don't use this as an oppotunity to Bash the US.


User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3033 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14825 times:

Jet Airways 9W, can sue this company or person of this so called other Jet Airways for making this kind of comments, because they are basically trying to damage this airlines image. I'm sure the DOT will not pay attention to what the Jet Airways say about 9W.

Quoting AF Cabin Crew (Reply 14):

You need to read all the posts again, so you get an idea what the main topic is.


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 14752 times:

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 18):
Don't use this as an oppotunity to Bash the US.

AF Cabn Crew was just being sarcastic  Wink


User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1040 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 14673 times:
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Thank you Mrniji ! You got me !

Mexicana757, Moose 1226, you guys should chill !!!
Have a look at things from another perspective !
I love the US and its people (but a few, obviously...). I just can't get with the fact that some people could go to such length to get a few bucks from a foreign company... Come on !!!



Ia Maitai to tatou tere !
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21478 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 14664 times:

Oh come now. One idiot says one stupid thing and you STILL imply that this is indicative of a US problem, and only a US problem. Your words can't be taken any other way. If you didn't want to try and advance this position, you wouldn't mention the US at all, yet you continue to do so...


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 14638 times:

Please, people.. when I read AF Cabin Crews post, I smiled, because he showed with an ironic response how dumb these Jet USA people are - nothing against the US as such - his reference to Boeing only underlined his argument..

now people, don't make a big fish out of this and read out stuff he didn't want to say.. it rather looks like you (the others) are looking for an opportunity to say: "Look, again an antiamerican!".. - make peace, there are other things one can battle (A vs B Big grin )


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14588 times:

Is this serious.Im still laughing  Smile
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
25 Karan69 : SO AM I
26 AF Cabin Crew : I always wondered why some of my friends left this site... Now I know !!! Funny enough these people all worked in the airline industry and had high re
27 Post contains images HAWK21M : I havn't stopped laughing yet Amusing Thread. At times I think this thread was posted just to get People to laugh.It succeeded. regds MEL
28 Post contains links Blrsea : Interview with US-based Jet Airways Inc CEO...
29 Post contains images HAWK21M : Is it just Good old revenge rivalary regds MEL
30 Atmx2000 : It seems to be an overblown trademark dispute, with both sides digging in.
31 HAWK21M : Whats the US Govt reaction to all this. regds MEL
32 Atmx2000 : Well, the Port Authority of NY and NJ, which owns the airports has supported the Jet Airways (India) application. Of course that agency is not the US
33 HAWK21M : Will the June 23rd Launch be delayed. regds MEL
34 JoyA380B747 : Reports say that the Jet airways Inc US Dosent have any aircraft either...neither have I found any Pic on the database here. Regds Joy
35 Post contains links HAWK21M : I think its a Logistics company providing for outside Party Aircraft. regds MEL
36 Sammyk : What's interesting is that the CEO listed on that website is not the same as the one mentioned in the news articles. Also shows that their offices ar
37 Jaysit : The filing date for TM of the DE based Jet Airways ("JA") was December 17, 2002. 9W filed their TM in the US in February 2004. This earlier filing dat
38 Post contains images JoyA380B747 : Well, speaking practically, that Lady CEO has lots of guts fighting over such a petty matter. I say just change the name into something like Jet Airsy
39 HAWK21M : Looks like the 9W Launch would be delayed. regds MEL
40 Post contains links WestWing : But perhaps not by more than a couple of weeks. I posted some extracts from recent news articles in Jet Airways Rejects Rival's Al-Qaeda Claims (by Y
41 Skyguy : Bizarre & absurd. By the same measure that the CEO of Jet Airways Inc. asserts that Jetairways finanicing came from "Al-Qaeda" and that US generated r
42 HAWK21M : I heard 9W is planning to Sue Jet Airways Inc.This could shut down the Latter. regds MEL
43 Post contains links Airish : Some more articles on the subject. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1395526,00050001.htm http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1395529,00050001
44 AngelAirways : disgusting tactics. unfortunately the "Q" word is a big soft spot for the US gov and they have temporarily banned 9W from commencing services, despite
45 HAWK21M : What happens to Jet Airways Inc when the Claims are proven to be False & 9W starts Operations. regds MEL
46 PVD757 : It all depends on if Jet Airways (US) is found to have any reasonable merit to it's claims. If the claims are found to be totally unsubstantiated or
47 HAWK21M : Whats the Latest on this. regds MEL
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