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Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9169 times:

Wanted to get a sense from people what orders will be announced for Boeing?

Types, airlines and numbers please.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9081 times:

Boeing doesn't set the timing of their product announcments. Rather, Boeing leaves the timing up to the preference of the airlines.

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9048 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Boeing doesn't set the timing of their product announcments. Rather, Boeing leaves the timing up to the preference of the airlines.

I understand that, I was just looking for opinions (informed or otherwise) from A.Net members.



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8729 times:

Ok, my predictions...

LOT order for 6 + 6 787s
Formal launch of 737-900X with Lion Air & JAL as launch customers
Formal launch of 747Adv with Cargolux and Cathay as launch customers
Maybe some 787 orders from leasing companies
More 737 orders


User currently onlineER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2594 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8717 times:

l know this is a longshot, but what the heck
AA - a dozen 787's


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8700 times:

l know this is a longshot, but what the heck
AA - a dozen 787's


If that were to happen, I would be more interested in what the livery would look like, considering the lack of metal.

Harry



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User currently offlineAeroPiggot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8681 times:

Quote:
Reply:3 FriendlySkies: LOT order for 6 + 6 787s
Formal launch of 737-900X with Lion Air & JAL as launch customers
Formal launch of 747Adv with Cargolux and Cathay as launch customers
Maybe some 787 orders from leasing companies
More 737 orders

In addition to what friendlyskies stated above, I believe that SQ, might order some 772LR, and UAE may also order some 772LR and more 773ER. Plus a few surprise 787 orders?  Smile



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User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1722 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8532 times:

i'm thinking British Midland International (BD) going for 3/4 787-3's


CZ 787 to AKL can't wait.
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8511 times:

Quoting AeroPiggot (Reply 6):
In addition to what friendlyskies stated above, I believe that SQ, might order some 772LR, and UAE may also order some 772LR and more 773ER.

EK adding a 773ER/772LR isn't out of the question. Could go something like: dump order for 20 A346HGW, convert to 50 A350, replace A346 with 777 products.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Boeing doesn't set the timing of their product announcments. Rather, Boeing leaves the timing up to the preference of the airlines.

True... but have the last 18 months been typical convention for Boeing? While they didn't hold the Air Canada, Northwest, and Air India bombshells for Paris... I'd expect something of mild suprise to be announced.


User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1597 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8508 times:

Qatar for 60 787 frames....


Airbus or Boeing - it's all good to me!
User currently offlineNirvarma From New Zealand, joined May 2005, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8474 times:

I am hoping the 747A gets the green light.  spin 

Cheers
NV


User currently offlineMoose1226 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 250 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8420 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 8):
I'd expect something of mild suprise to be announced.

What have these surprises been in past years? I don't remember anything too interesting happening for B last year at Paris that would indicate a surprise should be expected every year.


User currently offlineBeauing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8349 times:

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 11):
I don't remember anything too interesting happening for B last year at Paris

That's why it will be a surprise this year...


User currently offlinePyxisnautica From Kiribati, joined May 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8030 times:

http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_s.asp?storyid=94087

"While Emirates is set to order a combination of A350s and Boeing's ultra-long range B777-200LRs, Qatar Airways is set to order as many as 50 to 60 B787s."

If Emirates is set to order 50 A350s, and Qatar Airways orders 50-60 787's, and the net orders are supposed to total 120 aircraft, then Emirates must also be set to buy 10-20 777-200LRs. Not bad.


User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7025 times:

Who is the new A380 Customer?

PARIS AIR SHOW Airbus says will announce new A380 order during air show
06.13.2005, 09:08 AM

PARIS (AFX) - Airbus SAS vice-president Philippe Delmas said the plane maker will announce a new order for its A380 double-decker 'superjumbo' at the Le Bourget air show.

Asked whether Airbus would be announcing a new A380 order this week, Delmas replied: 'One can expect that.'

Airbus will hold a press conference tomorrow morning.

The company has so far received 154 orders for the A380, of which 144 are firm deals. Breakeven on the project has been put as high as 300 planes should the dollar remain weak.

Airbus is owned 80 pct by the European Aeronautic Space and Defence Co (EADS) and 20 pct by BAE Systems PLC.

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2005/06/13/afx2089314.html


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6910 times:

Alaska, (24) 738 via leasers.....in Seattle Time though not confirmed

ASSFO



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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5263 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6846 times:

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 9):
Qatar for 60 787 frames....

Sorry, Qatar just ordered 60 A350's and 20 777's........
See the other thread about this..

KL911


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6456 times:

First Boeing order at the show , was 5 737-800 for FR.
Surely the confirmation of the 737-700 order by Sky Europe.
787 for QR is over as KL911 mentionned.
No way to see an EK order at Paris.
No way to see the official launch of the 747ADV at Paris , since it will probably be announced at the next Boeing boarding meeting at the end of this month.
Any new customers for 787s at Paris ? A mystery !!!!!!!!


User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1904 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6292 times:

Quoting FCKC (Reply 17):
Any new customers for 787s at Paris ? A mystery !!!!!!!!

I was hoping for LOT order to be made official, but they keep postponing it and now with A350 in the race it would be interesting to see who gets to renew LOTs widebody fleet...



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User currently offlineDalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6024 times:

Quoting FCKC (Reply 17):
No way to see an EK order at Paris

Well it's heavily rumored that EK will indeed announce their 777 order at Le Bourget and wait until Dubai in November to announce their A350 commitment.


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5928 times:

Quoting ER757 (Reply 4):
AA - a dozen 787's

ROFL! Thanks fot the laugh.

Quoting Pyxisnautica (Reply 13):
Qatar Airways is set to order as many as 50 to 60 B787s."

Where is this coming from? They only got (20) 777's non-specific to type.



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User currently offlineZoom1018 From Taiwan, joined May 2005, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5575 times:

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 21):
Yeah, what a surprise. I bet Boeing are happy as pigs in sh** at getting totally blown away by Airbus at Paris.

I am childish and you are even more childish with confined perception.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5575 times:

Might the QR "order" for 60 A350s tip the scales for the 789 to EK, just out of shear competition?


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User currently offlineM27 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 21):
Yeah, what a surprise. I bet Boeing are happy as pigs in sh** at getting totally blown away by Airbus at Paris.

I bet Boeing wouldn't trade the orders it received at Paris for the ones Airbus received.


User currently offlinePyxisnautica From Kiribati, joined May 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5367 times:

Quoting M27 (Reply 25):
I bet Boeing wouldn't trade the orders it received at Paris for the ones Airbus received.

Indeed, as most seem to be spectulative "commitments" from a few questionable (or at least extremely new) airlines with no track record or much of a business plan that Airbus seemed desperate to make then and there. We shall see, I suppose.

As far as Boeing "getting totally blown away", I'll only note that they outsold Airbus by a margin of 9 to 1 when it comes to actual firm orders - I really dont think Boeing had a bad week at all. They still have twice the number of firm orders to date, almost twice the number of announced commitments, and the year is hardly half over. And going by the number of rank announcements made at Paris, Id say Airbus is pretty well spent for the rest of the year until Emirates and a few others make their next mega-batch of orders sometime in September.


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