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ASA/Comair To Take Over CO Express Ops @ CRW  
User currently offlineCRWDude From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 16 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

A friend at work told me that his wife's company, ASA/Comair, is taking over Continental Express counter and ramp operations at CRW. Is this happening anywhere else? Currently, COEX has one ERJ135 flight to IAH and 3 Beech1900 flights to CLE. I'm wondering if this is a sign COEX is pulling out of CRW. Local authorities have been trying to push folks to take COEX's flights to IAH in hopes of adding another or service to EWR, but with the downsizing of Dow Chemical here, fewer business people are taking the flights. I've flown the 2 hr 46 min flight to IAH once and it's a great flight with a decent snack, something I never expected. I'd hate to see them leave CRW.

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

Probably just a move to save money by taking advantages of the synergy between DL and CO. Seeing as Expressjet only has one flight, and the other 3 are Commutair, whereas Delta Connection has 9 flights, it makes sense to have DCI handle CO flights, and save the money for leasing operating a station on their own. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess you can see (or soon will see) the same procedure at other smaller airports.

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Quoting CRWDude (Thread starter):
A friend at work told me that his wife's company, ASA/Comair, is taking over Continental Express counter and ramp operations at CRW. Is this happening anywhere else? Currently, COEX has one ERJ135 flight to IAH and 3 Beech1900 flights to CLE. I'm wondering if this is a sign COEX is pulling out of CRW. Local authorities have been trying to push folks to take COEX's flights to IAH in hopes of adding another or service to EWR, but with the downsizing of Dow Chemical here, fewer business people are taking the flights. I've flown the 2 hr 46 min flight to IAH once and it's a great flight with a decent snack, something I never expected. I'd hate to see them leave CRW.

well continental isnt pulling out. Theyre lf's are probably the best here. IAH Is always going out near to or full. CLe is doing good too but..how could it not lol. CRW is getting the runway taken to 7000ft. and an EMAS system at the end of runway 5 to allow for more takeoff room. I heard that continental didnt want to do anything more to IAH untill the work is done and they can un restrict it.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

Excuse the ignorance... but EMAS System... explain please?

That's good for CRW to support the IAH flight. I stumbled across that flight while looking at Flytecomm and was shocked that they got one. I wish we at ABE could get one of those IAH flights on an ERJ-XR... or a flight to EWR instead of the bus... those buses are nearly impossible to work as scheduled... and the flights to CLE if you head toward the Plains area are worthless because you still need to go ABE-CLE-IAH-___ in most cases because the CLE "hub" doesn't get you to many of the "spokes."


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
Excuse the ignorance... but EMAS System... explain please?

That's good for CRW to support the IAH flight. I stumbled across that flight while looking at Flytecomm and was shocked that they got one. I wish we at ABE could get one of those IAH flights on an ERJ-XR... or a flight to EWR instead of the bus... those buses are nearly impossible to work as scheduled... and the flights to CLE if you head toward the Plains area are worthless because you still need to go ABE-CLE-IAH-___ in most cases because the CLE "hub" doesn't get you to many of the "spokes."

CRW was negotating an Ewr flight But CO said it wouldnt be profitable due to fuel costs and they couldnt get the plane into the international bank. maybe thats ABE's problem

our IAH flight is a great thing. last summer ther brought in the E 145 and it wasnt even a popular route back then. we need morning flight and larger aircraft. the 135 is always over weight. Does the xr really have enough range fot ABE-IAH? have fun on that 5 hour rj ride.

EMAS is an Engingineered Materials Arresting system http://www.esco-usa.com/com/instal.html#top

Basically , its 2x an overrun. say you have 250 ft. ov Emas..it counts as a 500 ft. overrun.


User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

WOW, that EMAS video is pretty awesome, that is a topic of its own.

http://www.esco-usa.com/com/video.html

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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4193 times:

yea its really cool. Its supposed to add 500 ft. of takeoff room for runway 23.. not sure how but theyll have 6,802 for takeoff.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

They run the 145XR IAH-PIT, and OKC-EWR. EWR-OKC is only 13nm less than ABE-IAH according to Airnav. Personally I like ERJ's, so I wouldn't have a problem with the 4 hr ride, to avoid an extra connection. I can think of a company in the ABE area (I won't mention its name though) that flies at least a dozen people a week between ABE-IAH, typically via US lately but othertimes via NW. Add that, to the tons of connections that can be made at IAH compared to our CLE via our ABE-CLE runs, and I think they could make money on that flight... but I don't want to be a typical armchair CEO.

ABE's problem with EWR is that it's only about a 60mi flight, CO doesn't run the B1900's into EWR (because of space I've heard) and any jet would be sooooo unprofitable on such a short hop that we get the bus. The problem is the bus's timing sucks with trying to catch the banks.


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4135 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 7):
I can think of a company in the ABE area (I won't mention its name though) that flies at least a dozen people a week between ABE-IAH

Crw has a few companies , with just them sending as many as 10 per day to IAH and vise versa. so a dozen a week wont be enough to convince CO as a reason to start it up.

With ewr... well i know of some short routes that do good. Crw and Hts- cvg both do okay.. Hts isnt as good on the route but those are pretty short.. too short to justify a jet anyway.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4090 times:
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Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 4):
weight. Does the xr really have enough range fot ABE-IAH?

CO Ex. does IAH-YYZ 4x daily with the E145xr.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11559 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4072 times:

IMHO, AA Eagle could easily fill 2-3 daily ERJ-140s from DFW, and maybe 1-2 daily ERJ-140s to ORD as well.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 8):

Crw has a few companies , with just them sending as many as 10 per day to IAH and vise versa. so a dozen a week wont be enough to convince CO as a reason to start it up.

Yeah... I knew that. The only reason I mentioned that company specifically is because it's where I work. I'm sure there are others too lol. Otherwise... the connection possibilities in IAH are ALOT better than the connection possibilities in CLE. The CLE "hub" is alot like US's PIT out-of-focus city, in that you can only get to SOME of the places from there, and for other places still have to fly to the NEXT hub.

PS: Thanks for the demo/description of EMAS! That earned you as the first member of my Respected list, feel proud or something  Smile


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):

PS: Thanks for the demo/description of EMAS! That earned you as the first member of my Respected list, feel proud or something

*feels proud*

and im finally finding out where all the xr's have gone.


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