CRWDude From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 16 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3064 times:
A friend at work told me that his wife's company, ASA/Comair, is taking over Continental Express counter and ramp operations at CRW. Is this happening anywhere else? Currently, COEX has one ERJ135 flight to IAH and 3 Beech1900 flights to CLE. I'm wondering if this is a sign COEX is pulling out of CRW. Local authorities have been trying to push folks to take COEX's flights to IAH in hopes of adding another or service to EWR, but with the downsizing of Dow Chemical here, fewer business people are taking the flights. I've flown the 2 hr 46 min flight to IAH once and it's a great flight with a decent snack, something I never expected. I'd hate to see them leave CRW.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2963 times:
Probably just a move to save money by taking advantages of the synergy between DL and CO. Seeing as Expressjet only has one flight, and the other 3 are Commutair, whereas Delta Connection has 9 flights, it makes sense to have DCI handle CO flights, and save the money for leasing operating a station on their own. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess you can see (or soon will see) the same procedure at other smaller airports.
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2853 times:
Quoting CRWDude (Thread starter): A friend at work told me that his wife's company, ASA/Comair, is taking over Continental Express counter and ramp operations at CRW. Is this happening anywhere else? Currently, COEX has one ERJ135 flight to IAH and 3 Beech1900 flights to CLE. I'm wondering if this is a sign COEX is pulling out of CRW. Local authorities have been trying to push folks to take COEX's flights to IAH in hopes of adding another or service to EWR, but with the downsizing of Dow Chemical here, fewer business people are taking the flights. I've flown the 2 hr 46 min flight to IAH once and it's a great flight with a decent snack, something I never expected. I'd hate to see them leave CRW.
well continental isnt pulling out. Theyre lf's are probably the best here. IAH Is always going out near to or full. CLe is doing good too but..how could it not lol. CRW is getting the runway taken to 7000ft. and an EMAS system at the end of runway 5 to allow for more takeoff room. I heard that continental didnt want to do anything more to IAH untill the work is done and they can un restrict it.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2699 times:
Excuse the ignorance... but EMAS System... explain please?
That's good for CRW to support the IAH flight. I stumbled across that flight while looking at Flytecomm and was shocked that they got one. I wish we at ABE could get one of those IAH flights on an ERJ-XR... or a flight to EWR instead of the bus... those buses are nearly impossible to work as scheduled... and the flights to CLE if you head toward the Plains area are worthless because you still need to go ABE-CLE-IAH-___ in most cases because the CLE "hub" doesn't get you to many of the "spokes."
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2647 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3): Excuse the ignorance... but EMAS System... explain please?
That's good for CRW to support the IAH flight. I stumbled across that flight while looking at Flytecomm and was shocked that they got one. I wish we at ABE could get one of those IAH flights on an ERJ-XR... or a flight to EWR instead of the bus... those buses are nearly impossible to work as scheduled... and the flights to CLE if you head toward the Plains area are worthless because you still need to go ABE-CLE-IAH-___ in most cases because the CLE "hub" doesn't get you to many of the "spokes."
CRW was negotating an Ewr flight But CO said it wouldnt be profitable due to fuel costs and they couldnt get the plane into the international bank. maybe thats ABE's problem
our IAH flight is a great thing. last summer ther brought in the E 145 and it wasnt even a popular route back then. we need morning flight and larger aircraft. the 135 is always over weight. Does the xr really have enough range fot ABE-IAH? have fun on that 5 hour rj ride.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2499 times:
They run the 145XR IAH-PIT, and OKC-EWR. EWR-OKC is only 13nm less than ABE-IAH according to Airnav. Personally I like ERJ's, so I wouldn't have a problem with the 4 hr ride, to avoid an extra connection. I can think of a company in the ABE area (I won't mention its name though) that flies at least a dozen people a week between ABE-IAH, typically via US lately but othertimes via NW. Add that, to the tons of connections that can be made at IAH compared to our CLE via our ABE-CLE runs, and I think they could make money on that flight... but I don't want to be a typical armchair CEO.
ABE's problem with EWR is that it's only about a 60mi flight, CO doesn't run the B1900's into EWR (because of space I've heard) and any jet would be sooooo unprofitable on such a short hop that we get the bus. The problem is the bus's timing sucks with trying to catch the banks.
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2463 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 7): I can think of a company in the ABE area (I won't mention its name though) that flies at least a dozen people a week between ABE-IAH
Crw has a few companies , with just them sending as many as 10 per day to IAH and vise versa. so a dozen a week wont be enough to convince CO as a reason to start it up.
With ewr... well i know of some short routes that do good. Crw and Hts- cvg both do okay.. Hts isnt as good on the route but those are pretty short.. too short to justify a jet anyway.
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10225 posts, RR: 62 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
IMHO, AA Eagle could easily fill 2-3 daily ERJ-140s from DFW, and maybe 1-2 daily ERJ-140s to ORD as well.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 8):
Crw has a few companies , with just them sending as many as 10 per day to IAH and vise versa. so a dozen a week wont be enough to convince CO as a reason to start it up.
Yeah... I knew that. The only reason I mentioned that company specifically is because it's where I work. I'm sure there are others too lol. Otherwise... the connection possibilities in IAH are ALOT better than the connection possibilities in CLE. The CLE "hub" is alot like US's PIT out-of-focus city, in that you can only get to SOME of the places from there, and for other places still have to fly to the NEXT hub.
PS: Thanks for the demo/description of EMAS! That earned you as the first member of my Respected list, feel proud or something
KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2303 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
PS: Thanks for the demo/description of EMAS! That earned you as the first member of my Respected list, feel proud or something
*feels proud*
and im finally finding out where all the xr's have gone.