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AC Announces New Domestic And Transborder Routes  
User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11059 times:

Air Canada introduces new non-stop routes Canada-wide; North American fleet renewal brings more point-to-point services and improved schedules

MONTREAL, June 2 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada today announced the
introduction of a series of new non-stop services between Edmonton-Regina,
Edmonton-Saskatoon, Hamilton-Montreal, Hamilton-Ottawa, Calgary-Las Vegas,
Vancouver-Las Vegas and an improved schedule between Montreal and Las Vegas.
The new routes will be operated by Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz, and are
being implemented to respond to new market opportunities made possible with
the renewal of the carriers' fleets that has now begun with the delivery of
new, smaller jet aircraft.
"With the arrival of new, modern and fuel-efficient aircraft in our North
American fleets, Air Canada is now able to implement significant network
improvements that will benefit consumers with more point-to-point, non-stop
flights and enhanced schedules," said Ben Smith, Vice President, Network
Planning. "The introduction of new Embraer and Canadair Regional Jet aircraft
beginning this year allows us to redeploy existing aircraft to pursue new
market opportunities and meet travellers' needs with the best schedules, the
most choice and the lowest fares on an everyday basis."

With the renewal of its North American fleet, Air Canada will introduce
the following new services:

Edmonton-Regina: Effective August 1, 2005, Air Canada Jazz will introduce
twice daily non-stop flights operated using 37-seat Dash 8-100 aircraft. Air
Canada will thus offer the most flights between these cities and the
opportunity for same-day return itineraries, as well as connections to/from
Grande Prairie and Fort McMurray. To promote the new route, Air Canada is
offering a special introductory fare starting at $99 until July 2, 2005 for
travel until September 30, 2005.

Edmonton-Saskatoon: Effective August 1, 2005, Air Canada Jazz will
introduce twice daily non-stop flights operated using 50-seat Dash 8-300
aircraft. Air Canada will thus offer the most flights between these cities and
the opportunity for same-day return itineraries, as well as connections
to/from Grande Prairie and Fort McMurray. To promote the new route, Air Canada
is offering a special introductory fare starting at $79 until July 2, 2005 for
travel until September 30, 2005.

Hamilton-Montreal: Effective September 18, 2005, Air Canada Jazz will
introduce four daily non-stop flights operated using 50-seat Canadair Regional
Jet aircraft. Air Canada will thus offer the only non-stop flights between
these cities and the opportunity for same-day return itineraries, as well as
convenient connections at its Montreal hub. To promote the new route, Air
Canada is offering a special introductory fare starting at $99 until July 2,
2005 for travel until October 31, 2005.

Hamilton-Ottawa: Effective September 18, 2005, Air Canada Jazz will
introduce three daily non-stop flights operated using 50-seat Canadair
Regional Jet aircraft. Air Canada will thus offer the most non-stop flights
between these cities and the opportunity for same-day return itineraries. To
promote the new route, Air Canada is offering a special introductory fare
starting at $89 until July 2, 2005 for travel until October 31, 2005.

Vancouver-Las Vegas: Effective October 30, 2005, Air Canada will
introduce daily non-stop flights operated using 120-seat Airbus A319 aircraft.
To promote the new route, Air Canada is offering a special introductory fare
starting at $149 for travel until December 11, 2005.

Calgary-Las Vegas: Effective October 30, 2005, Air Canada will introduce
daily non-stop flights operated using 120-seat Airbus A319 aircraft. Air
Canada will thus offer the only daily service between these two cities, in
addition to convenient connections in Calgary to points within Air Canada's
extensive network in Western Canada as well as to/from London, UK and
Frankfurt. To promote the new route, Air Canada is offering a special
introductory fare starting at $149 for travel until December 11, 2005.

Montreal-Las Vegas: Effective October 30, 2005, Air Canada will increase
service from twice weekly to daily non-stop flights operated using 120-seat
Airbus A319 aircraft. In addition, Air Canada will offer an improved schedule
featuring convenient daytime departures.

Air Canada Jazz took delivery of its first 75-seat CRJ-705 aircraft on
May 27, 2005 and will be taking delivery of up to three new CRJ-705 aircraft
per month for a total of 15 by December 2005.
The new CRJ-705s are being introduced on the following routes: Calgary-
Houston (June 1, 2005), Toronto-Houston (July 1, 2005) and Toronto-Dallas
(August 1, 2005). Customers will have a choice of Hospitality or Executive
Class service, a new feature on the Toronto-Houston and Dallas routes.
Executive Class offers 37 inches of legroom, and Hospitality service offers an
industry leading 34 inches of legroom. Both cabins feature all-leather
seating, and in-seat audio and personal television systems will be installed
beginning in the fall 2005.
Air Canada will begin taking delivery of the first of 15 Embraer 175
aircraft in July 2005, joining 45 Embraer 190 aircraft set to begin delivery
in November 2005.

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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11021 times:

Sadly, I don't see YYZ-SAN returning...I miss that one.


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User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11005 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 1):
Sadly, I don't see YYZ-SAN returning...I miss that one.

Wait until 2006. New acft are arriving and this route will return.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10991 times:

Any possibility of the return of RDU-YUL? Will RDU-YYZ go to one of the C75/E75 for the F class?


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32781 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10944 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
Any possibility of the return of RDU-YUL? Will RDU-YYZ go to one of the C75/E75 for the F class?

AFAIK, they never flew it, they flew RDU-YOW.

And there is simply not a market to support RDU-YUL. US Airways Express twice tried, twice failed to fly YUL-CLT, despite the fact both are Star Alliance hubs.



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User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10851 times:

Any chance we will see a YEG-SFO using the CR705??? That is a destination YEG so needs and I think the 75 seater is quite suitable...

User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10818 times:

Lots of Vegas service increase. Is this seasonal only?

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10793 times:

I see Jazz is taking on CanJet on the YHM-YOW route. That one will probably be a bit of a battle ground. When WestJet flew the route they had 5 daily 737s, but had more connecting feed than what will now be available.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32781 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10783 times:

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 5):
Any chance we will see a YEG-SFO using the CR705??? That is a destination YEG so needs and I think the 75 seater is quite suitable...

If Air Canada reenters Spokane, it will be from Calgary (liked it used to be until 2003) or Vancouver, not Edmonton.



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User currently offlineAccargo From Canada, joined Sep 2004, 610 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10770 times:

Quoting N77014 (Reply 6):
Lots of Vegas service increase. Is this seasonal only?

The flights have yet to be loaded in our computers, so I am unsure at this time. However, with HP having a hub in Vegas and the US/HP merger it looks like AC is looking to add feed onto the merged airlines network as well as offer more service to Vegas.


User currently offlineACYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10670 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 5):
Any chance we will see a YEG-SFO using the CR705??? That is a destination YEG so needs and I think the 75 seater is quite suitable...

If Air Canada reenters Spokane, it will be from Calgary (liked it used to be until 2003) or Vancouver, not Edmonton.

um...last I checked SFO was San Francisco, California and not Spokane, Washington.


User currently offlineTsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 10604 times:

how about YUL/BWI...or maybe YYC/NYC?

User currently offlineEnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 10470 times:

I notice that the Vegas flights are in October. It looks like they are moving fast on their HP/US deal. I would imagine these will be permanent additions to the route network since they are aiming to have these run from gates next to HP/US with US codeshares on them. They hope to use Vegas-Vancouver to funnel traffic onto the asian network. Using Vegas-Calgary to go to Europe doesn't make as much sense since they might as well fly to Toronto where there are more European connections, but the connections to western Canada from there should work (Saskatoon, Regina, and Winnipeg).

I would like to see YXU-YWG and YHM-YWG for western connections. YXU-YYZ used to get delayed frequently due to traffic and YXU-YWG would avoid that.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32781 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10397 times:

Quoting ACYWG (Reply 10):

um...last I checked SFO was San Francisco, California and not Spokane, Washington.

Very true. I have no idea why I though Spokane, probably from the "EG" in YEG. None the less, I think YEG-SFO has great potential. I don't see AC doing it though, but it would be a good route for America West. AC flew a daily YEG-SFO service during the summer of 2001. It was launched as a seasonal service, but never returned.



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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10369 times:

Any new AC routes coming to MIA ?


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10331 times:

I still hoping to get the Dash-8's back in PVD... irked 

User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10290 times:

MAH4564...you are correct, YEG-SFO was flown during the summer of 2001 using the old CP 732s...I flew a couple time that summer...allost always full planes both directions....

At any rate, AC has two flights from YYC to SFO in addition to two CR7's flown by UAL ....so the market to Alberta is looked after alright....


User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10233 times:

Interesting, someone mentioned BWI. I feel that BWI was always a possibility for AC from YUL...I don't know why they haven't tried it yet. I guess the market just isn't there.

Regarding YUL-CLT...the market size for that route is about 26,000 pax per year, which is enough for a daily non-stop with a CRJ. I don't exactly know why this route was cut, but last I heard, it WAS doing pretty well.

YUL-RDU: I guess the YUL-RDU market is smaller than the YUL-CLT market. If YUL-CLT can't work, neither can YUL-RDU looks like.

Wait until AC adds more EMBs and CRJ-705s to their fleet...then you'll see them connecting the dots and adding even more route, thin routes.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10100 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 4):
AFAIK, they never flew it, they flew RDU-YOW.

And there is simply not a market to support RDU-YUL. US Airways Express twice tried, twice failed to fly YUL-CLT, despite the fact both are Star Alliance hubs.

Unless I'm not remembering correctly, and that could really be the case, AC has flown RDU-YYZ/YUL.. Canadian Regional (?? or something like that) flew RDU-YOW on F28.. The RDU-YUL was dropped when AC went from flying their DC-9 into RDU to their CRJ.

I don't know the RDU-YUL vs CLT-YUL market numbers.. all I know is AC flies 2 RJ to CLT and 3 to RDU.. US flies 2 RJ and 2 733 to YYZ (probably more for connecting that O&D).. Also, CLT and RDU are 2 different markets.. what could work for one would not necessarily work for the other..

And it is rumored AC wants to return F class to RDU for the business passengers.. but I can't confirm that, so it could be hearsay..



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10026 times:

I dont think it is much of a big secret we may see a lot of connecting the dots between the new US Airways and Air Canada.

User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9999 times:

I don't think Air Canada ever flew YUL-RDU.

User currently offlinePITA333 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 391 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9968 times:

I know that its whishful thinking, and its just something small, but I wish i could see AC make YYZ-PIT a CRJ flight again!

User currently offlineYanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1404 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9923 times:

Anyone know how AC is doing on the DEN-YYZ flight?

signed,
Matthew



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User currently offlineTIMEAIR From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9902 times:

Quoting MIASkies (Reply 14):
Any new AC routes coming to MIA ?

Look for YVR-MIA/YYC-MIA in fall announcements.

Quoting PITA333 (Reply 21):
but I wish i could see AC make YYZ-PIT a CRJ flight again!

Likely be upguaged to a mix of DH8-300's and an odd CRJ flight in the fall.



You can't get there from here.
User currently offlineTIMEAIR From Canada, joined May 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9893 times:

As quoted in forum -ACJAZZ CRJ705'S-



ACJAZZ will ops CR705 YYZ-EWR/IAH/BOS/DFW/YQR/YXE
YYC-IAH/YVR/LAS/DEN/ORD/LAX/SFO
YVR-YWG/LAS/ANA/PHX/IAH/YXY
Western routes will go into effect gradually starting fall schedule change this year, with others starting as soon as proving flights have been completed out east.



You can't get there from here.
25 SuperDash : I guess Air Canada isn't interested in profitable routes. They are only the fifth airline (Alaska, America West/Mesa, Harmony, Philippine) to enter th
26 TIMEAIR : It actually costs less!!! RSM vs PSM is lower = more $
27 SuperDash : Who cares about CASM? It's irrelevant if you dont put the extra revenue on the plane to cover the higher costs. It is the total dollars out the engin
28 TIMEAIR : YYC-IAH is a high yield market with executive class requests and frequent flights..something WS cannot offer. 9 seats x 1515.00CAD = 13635.00CAD vs av
29 MAH4546 : That would be awesome. Air Canada has operated MIA-YVR for the past few winters, but it not operates this past winter. Hope it comes back. I assume b
30 MIASkies : Along with the 319 & 320, I have seen AC 762 and 763 at MIA over the past couple months; are these used as well on the Montreal and Toronto routes?
31 FLYYUL : TIMEAIR, You intrigue me. Tell me where you get these stats.
32 TonyF734 : CLT-YYZ was orginally one CRJ and D9S...then with the Canadian Airlines buyout and the addition of "other" equipment, they were flying Fokker F-28's a
33 MAH4546 : The 767s are used on the MIA-YYZ route between November and April, daily. They are also used on the FLL-YUL route during the same period, also daily.
34 CayMan : As an aside--I recall having seen just about every AC aircraft type modern and current in MIA, save for the 343s. Maybe they have been there but I hav
35 Post contains links and images MAH4546 : The 343s operated MIA-YYZ daily between November 1999 and April 2000: View Large View MediumPhoto © Dirk Jaeger
36 Sebring : I love it when I read a cost-only analysis. Sure, the CASM of the 705 is higher than for the 700, but AC's customer base won't fly in 31-inch seat pi
37 Irishpower : Any chance of new flights to SMF. I had heard that Sacramento was in the picture for AC.
38 Post contains images Bmacleod : No new Atlantic region routes? Why is it we maritimers often get overlooked when it comes to new routes? The only thing we tend to get is cutbacks in
39 Accargo : Doesn't your second comment answer the first? There needs to be demand if you want increased services. PEI got increased service this summer, but had
40 CXH : I wouldn't be surprised if WestJet gets back in YVR-LAS. They use to fly twice a week for years as a charter for various tour operators. (they still
41 EnviroTO : Bmacleod... aren't you answering your own question? If the population isn't increasing, Canjet is in the area, and AC already serves most required dom
42 Yeggerman : As for now, the last charters went out this week, and there is no more YEG-LAS or YYC-LAS scheduled till sometime in October, which is why there is s
43 YOW : For the Maritimes, AC is increasing frequencies on some routes by converting them partially or wholly to CRJs. They're bringing back seasonal YDF-YUL
44 N1120A : With the E-Jets, YYZ-SAN and YYZ-ONT are likely to make a comeback Could be, but Vegas has become a year-round sure bet to fill a plane, so perhaps n
45 FLYYUL : " YYZ-SAN and YYZ-ONT are likely to make a comeback" -E90 YYZSAN may be defying the range limitations of this aircraft.
46 TIMEAIR : To which stats do you refer to??? Thank you!..someone who understands more than just horsepower economics...!!! LoL
47 Bmacleod : Don't you mean YQY-YYZ? This was a profitable summer route for Jetsgo until it's collapse. Canjet or Westjet hasn't shown any interest in pursuing th
48 Post contains links FLYYUL : YQY-YUL started June 1st. www.aircanada.ca
49 Yyz717 : How do you know it was profitable for SG?
50 Post contains images FLYYUL : He knows Neil.. everybody knows
51 N77014 : Will LAX see a return to widebody service like in the L-1011 Tristar days?
52 Accargo : The arrival of the 190's will free 319/320's to do the route.
53 FLYYUL : Is the E90 capable of doing YYZSAN?
54 Accargo : I googled the 190 and it shows a range of 2200nm. So, YYZ-SAN is well within limits.
55 FLYYUL : " 2200nm" -Perhaps at empty. The E90 is not an ideal trans-con aircraft.
56 YUL332LX : The 2200nm is the advertised range of the LR version with a full pax payload (no cargo). However, the operational range of any commercial aircraft is
57 Accargo : Okay, what is the range according to you then? Whether the 190 can do it or not, AC will likely return to SAN once significant numbers of them arrive
58 Tennisace : Robert Milton made a presentation this A.M. at a transportation conference. A copy of it is now available on the AC website (Investor Relations: top l
59 CayMan : If you read Milton's book, it is obvious he detests YYZ, the GTAA and probably the city of Toronto for that matter. I would say Milton intends to dis
60 Yyz717 : Milton needs to remember that AC's biggest hub (and the biggest source of his paycheque) is the YYZ market. Surely you jest. AC would never abandon Y
61 FLYYUL : Cayman, Lets not go down this road again. if Air Canada is to remain competitive in the Canadian industry, it will need to bypass the hubs with smalle
62 Lymanm : Milton won't dismantle the carrier's largest hub out of personal animosity towards Toronto (which is far from factual, I'm sure!). In any event, wher
63 CayMan : I realize it seems a far out prediction but Milton devotes an entire chapter to how bad he thinks YYZ is. He refers to YYZ as AC's "gateway' to canad
64 Yyz717 : Given the sheer size of YYZ, flying to YYZ "in some capacity" means that YYZ will always be the biggest AC hub. There is simply no other possible hub
65 Jean Leloup : I don't see any possibility at all that YYZ would cease to be AC's biggest hub, particularly for international flights. Where else would the big int'l
66 Bmacleod : Yyz717, If Milton has failed as a CEO, why is AC on a big rebound? And why did Jetsgo fail; also not to mention WS recent loss. Milton may be dislike
67 Yyz717 : A rebound? AC has yet to report a profit, let alone a profit with investment grade returns (the basis on which anyone would invest in AC in the first
68 AC7E7 : You have got to be kinding me. I've read the book. He is not fond of the GTAA and the way TI was built, but he doesn't have anything against Toronto.
69 Bmacleod : Yyz717, It was SARS, 9/11, Iraq and an economic downturn that drove AC into bankruptcy protection. I still can't see how Milton is at fault here. You
70 Post contains images YOWguy : The Government of Canada also contributed to AC bankruptcy, and if you read Miltons book, David Collenette was the one setting the rules as to how Air
71 Yyz717 : Only UA, US and ATA are in Chapter 11. That means that all others North American carriers have performed better than AC recently, despite some of the
72 Post contains images Bmacleod : Yyz717, Toronto was hard hit by SARS and being AC main hub was the biggest factor to AC's dramatic drop in revenue during that period. The invasion o
73 Yyz717 : Funny how SARS did not impact any other carrier flying into YYZ. And yet AC was one of the few to file for bankruptcy. Nope, quite awake. Canada's ec
74 AC_B777 : No, and you can't seem to get Milton out of your head. Are you sure you don't have dreams about him at night? I doubt that you know very much about t
75 Hrhf1 : When WS is the size of AC, gains international routes and a fraction of the prestige of the Air Canada name, then I'll read Beddoe's book. He stole t
76 Yyz717 : WS is already larger than AC by several counts, specifically market capitalization and profits. "Stole" a business plan. Please......
77 SQuared : Actually, AC is the second most valuable airline as measured by market capitalization in North America after WN. Granted, WS has been consistently pr
78 Accargo : AC_B777 There is no use having any kind of discussion with this guy. He isn't going to change his mind. He has a hate on for AC and Milton. He consta
79 Boeing744 : AC really has to introduce some more routes to YYJ. YYJ has been so under serviced by AC, all we have are YYJ-YVR, YYJ-YYZ and YYJ-YYC. WestJet has a
80 AirFrnt : I have taken it twice and both times it was either at 90% or sold out. Tried to get bumped up to a earlier flight, which was also sold out.
81 Hrhf1 : YYZ717 please...you're Arguing semantics. You know that AC is a far larger airline in terms of routes flown and world importance than WS. Until they
82 Post contains images Boeing744 : While I agree with you on the fact that AC is certainly larger than WS, WS is in fact an international airline. They are offering scheduled and chart
83 Hrhf1 : Shame on me for bad semantics now! Thanks Boeing 744...what I meant to say was that AC is flying long haul international routes with much more at stak
84 Yyz717 : I was actually refering tongue-in-cheek to the AC common stock when Robert Milton (son of a rich connected man) became CEO. That stock is now worth z
85 Cessnapimp : I think we will see good results this quarter. Indeed it is an exciting time at AC. Can't wait to see those new E75's! Woohoo!
86 Post contains images Yyz717 : The problem Greg is that business travellers often avoid carriers with high load factors (80% or more) and indeed many get bumped since many flights
87 Accargo : Not so rapidly anymore. They do provide flights to Mexico and some Carribean destinations for various charter companies, but do not fly there under t
88 Yyz717 : Given that AC has only posted operating losses for years (which means that 50+% of routes lose money) it would seem that AC's transborder network is
89 CXYYZ : Right, WS definitely doesn't fly to Asia. It was most certainly affected by SARS (not your argument AC_B777, I know). WS also said it was affected by
90 Hrhf1 : Perhaps, Yyz717, your beloved Westjet is able to succeed as it never had to deal with such ridiculous covenants as spelled out in the Air Canada Publi
91 Yyz717 : The current shareholders are largely the creditors of the old AC who were forced into the ownership situation by a bankrupt AC in order to salvage ce
92 Jetpixx : I wonder what the chances of MIA-YVR returning are....I remember they ran a 737-200 between the two, which seemed like a test of range....
93 Bmacleod : Yyz717, just where are your sources for this information?
94 Hrhf1 : Institutional investors who thought it would be a good buy for their clients have snapped up AC. The past creditors were dealt with under the Bankrup
95 Yyz717 : The latest quarterly report. The 1% operating loss means that on a fully burdened basis, just over 50% routes lose money. The large size of the trans
96 AC_B777 : So when did 50% become "most" of the routes? The last time I checked, 50% was half. Come on Neil, you're supposed to be good with numbers. I hardly th
97 Post contains images Yyz717 : This is a discussion forum and hence I will continue to lambast Milton until he proves his CEO credentials, ie. until AC posts investment grade profi
98 AC_B777 : Neil, Milton could be the best CEO and run the tightest ship around and you would still find a reason to blast him, but as you said, this is a discuss
99 AC7E7 : Interesting to note however that AC has been recording operating profits. Considering the state of the rest of the insudtry, AC is in great shape. The
100 MAH4546 : It was never a 737-200, which would never make it. They operated a mix of A319s and 767s on the flight. I wouldn't entirely rule out the chance of it
101 B741 : Looking at the OAG literature from July 2001 until May 2002, only Air Canada A319 equipment was allocated to YVR-MIA routing.
102 MAH4546 : It was a 767-300ER between November 2002 and April 2003. The OAG may show an A319 because that what it was originally scheduled as, but about two mon
103 B741 : Yes, I see it now. The January 03 copy is listing 767-300 service on Saturday and Sunday.
104 Swissy : I personally think AC is on the right track (finally) It is easy for us to bash AC because they are around for so long and perhaps a rich daddy boy is
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