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Mojave - Can You Go Inside To Look At The Planes?  
User currently offlineSnn2003 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7029 times:

Can you get in there and look at the stored planes?


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7020 times:

Try this FAQ file from the Mojave Group over on Yahoo!

http://f6.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YIGfQsK...buACwNaB1On/Mojave%20Airport%20FAQ

Let me know if it doesn't work...


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6977 times:

I went to MHV last year, you cannot get into the airport and view the aircraft but.......

You can visit the Cafe which provides good views across the apron, but you need a long zoom on a camera to get good pics! Also you can drive round the airport stopping at various places to get photos! You can also drive round the perimeter of the airport and stop, you then cross the rail line and walk up to fence, right by the VS 742's!

MHV is a great airport, well worth a visit! Big grin

Rob!


User currently offlineDacman From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 444 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6788 times:

Tours are available at MHV.

You must go to the Airports Ops Office and ask for Javier (he is an aircraft fueler). If he is available he will take you on a 30 minute tour of the stored aircraft. You must remain in the vehicle and the cost is $10 US dollars. It is best to go during the week (Monday thru Friday before 3:00pm ) as that is when Javier works.

It is best to visit MHV in the winter as this is when the sun is best and most importantly cool temps.

Hope this helps.

Mike (dacman)
lgbguy



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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6780 times:

When I went to Kingman AZ, I was able to go right up to the planes.. I couldnt actually get inside the aircraft, but thats because they were wide-bodys and too high up.


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6727 times:

You sure can. Went there a few years ago with B747-437B and ACVitale from this site, and a few other folks.

Sean got kind of choked up looking at the old AI birds there.  Big grin


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6567 times:

When I went in Dec 03 I was taken out by Don in Security. I got to go into the tower,too .


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6540 times:

A simple question with difficult answers......

I have been to Mojave several times and there are security issues - you cannot simply walk around and look at the aircraft on an unescorted basis. If you poke around for a while, it is likely that a security person will ask you what you are doing and why you are there - in general, the security people are very kind and do realize that a lot of airliner enthusiasts make trips to Mojave and will try to make your visit a pleasant one. Work with them, treat them with respect, and they will help you out. One time, I was able to walk around on the ramp for a while without an escort to take some pictures, other times thats not possible, and you will be so advised.

Several employees at Mojave will arrange unofficial tours of the storage areas - as mentioned above - if they are available, they will take you on a tour of the area and be sure to give them some type of gratuity - tours are not part of their job and they do it because they realize that Mojave is a tourist attraction for many of us. Let them know is there is something specific that you want to see or if there is a particular group of airliners that is of special interest to you, and I have found that they will do their best - if they say NO, they mean NO and do not force the issue. As far as I know, its not possible to get on board any of the parked aircraft, everything in storage is locked down and even if an aircraft would be opened for inspection, the only access is via a ladder and this is prohibited for many reasons, including insurance issues.

There are several good viewing areas in town, the parking lot behind the K-mart comes to mind, so after you visit the airport, drive around a bit (Mojave is not a big place) and you may stumble upon some very good views of the aircraft.

Its worth the the trip - its very cool when you are driving through the desert and as you approach the airport, you begin to see the tails of the stored airliners on the horizon - its an exicting yet sad place - seeing all of those airplanes parked and knowing that many will never fly again.

And, avoid the summer months, its very hot. Even during the Spring or Autumn, get their early and avoid the mid-afternoon sun.


User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6478 times:

I just last week drove past Marana Arizona and saw a similar scene. Lots of old NW 747's.

User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6208 times:

I have found a video clip about the airplane storage at MHV on a Canadian homepage. It may be of interest to some of you. Info text below.
I do not recall having seen many videos from MHV.

Plane Graveyard
A giant airfield in the Mojave desert is both graveyard and resting place for scrapped planes, or those that are waiting to be put to use. It's been in high demand since the aviation down-turn after the events of September 11,2001.


Yours in realtime
JHSfan



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6065 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 4):
When I went to Kingman AZ, I was able to go right up to the planes.. I couldnt actually get inside the aircraft, but thats because they were wide-bodys and too high up.

How did you get inside? Myself and FlagshipAZ went there last March. We didn't try to gain access but I would love to this winter when I am there!


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

If you fly in GA, you will also have more ramp access.


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5611 times:

Hmmm. I am going to have to call Tom. I would love to get inside at IGM when we go! BTW just got one of my shots from there accepted!  biggrin 



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Having been to both MHV and VCV, I'll say that both visits were very pleasant and I sure did take more photos than I had film for!

At Mojave, we came on a weekend and there was nobody handy to watch the desk AND drive some photopgraphers around, but he was kind enough to tell us where to go get some good angles. There are many many many areas along the fence that will give you great angles on some of these jets. Really there's 3 "pods" of aircraft there, and all are reasonably easy to get shots of. Just look for breaks in the fence between hangars, somewhere where you can get your lens through...that'll even afford you good angles of the F-4 drones out there!

Walk along the railroad tracks along one of the perimeter fences, right along where the Virgin 747's are....even with an 80mm lens, you'll be able to capture these jets as if you were right up next to them. I walked along those tracks and took probably 15 photos, having oriented my body the same way along the fence. I was able to take all those photos and tape them together to form one long panoramic photo, about 8 feet long, of that whole pod of heavies..pretty cool!

Victorville is about the same, plenty of fence line you can go along. Off the base, to the west, is a long dirt road that parallels the fence, which leads to a huge dirt mound...follow it, and you can get some excellent angles of the scrapyards. The people in the development office were very helpful and very nice, there was a man there by the name of Rich/Richard (memory is foggy now!) I believe, he toured us around there and put up with our annoying questions lol.

Definately go make the trip, it's worth the hot desert drive!

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5172 times:

I am definitely making the trip this winter when I am out there, it won't be so hot in January! Big grin

User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5028 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 7):
only access is via a ladder and this is prohibited for many reasons

Up through the hatch behind the nose gear on 747 and 767 is easy.
The biggest issue that I've run into is needing the aircraft owner's permission.
Plus, if the plane is all closed up and dark inside, it's not all that much fun after a while anyway. I only do it because people pay me to.


User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4802 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 7):
One time, I was able to walk around on the ramp for a while without an escort to take some pictures, other times thats not possible, and you will be so advised.

Recieved this in e-mail through the Mojave group and am passing this on as requested....

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If anyone here is a member of airliners.net, they may wish to let Dutchjet, who posted


One time, I was able to walk around on the ramp for a while without an escort to take some pictures

know that the guy who let him into the ramp without an escort got into quite a bit of trouble for it. If you do not work on the flight line, you MUST have a flight line escort to be on the ramp. If you want to go out to the boneyard, your escort must also have permission from Flight Test Associates (bought AVTEL) to escort visitors out there. Even GA pilots and passengers aren't supposed to leave the transient parking area.

The security guys are nice about it, but trespassing on an airport is illegal.

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