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VS Plane Squawking 7500 Over The Atlantic  
User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16601 times:

Just heard it reported on MSNBC, it will be landing in New Brusnswick.

[Edited 2005-06-03 16:56:24]

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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3220 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16549 times:

According to the MSN alert - LHR->NYC flight.


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User currently offlineVunz From Netherlands, joined Jun 2001, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16540 times:

Just heard it too, scary...

User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16510 times:

The pilot called over voice channel to say he was not hi-jacked. But they are being escorted anyway... latest from ABC News.


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User currently offlineMsp753nwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16510 times:
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Hi, They say its diverting to Moncton.


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EDIT It says here That its diverting to Halifax.

[Edited 2005-06-03 16:35:42]


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16473 times:

Yup.. sounds like an accident, but not taking any chances. It's VS flight 45, an A340...should be on the ground shortly. FoxNews is reporting squawking 7500

[Edited 2005-06-03 16:35:31]

[Edited 2005-06-03 16:36:28]


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User currently offlineA319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16469 times:

Well a 7600 (lost communications) isn't that much of a disaster. I'm sure everything will be al right.


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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16449 times:

7600 is communication problem, most likely radio failure.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16415 times:

No, he is squawking 7500, the hijacking code. It is flying from LHR to JFK. Canadaian Forces have scrambled fighters to it. According to FoxNews.

Is this flight an A-340 or B-747?

FoxNews does not have the flight number for Virgin, yet.


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16405 times:

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 3):
The pilot called over voice channel to say he was not hi-jacked.

How could he call if 7600 means they have no communication with ATC?


User currently offlineVunz From Netherlands, joined Jun 2001, 360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16328 times:

NEW YORK - A Virgin Atlantic flight from London to JFK Airport in New York was being diverted Friday after air traffic controllers heard the hijack code coming from the crew.

Virgin Atlantic said it had contacted the pilot, who said the aircraft was not being hijacked, but as a precaution the plane was being sent an airport in Halifax, Canada.

Canadian fighter jets were to escort the jet, which is carrying 271 passengers and 17 crew.


User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16311 times:

It's VS Flight 45 from LHR to JFK.


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London Heathrow Jun 03 09:58 AM New York (JFK) Jun 03 01:09 PM

Departed 5 hrs. and 39 mins. ago. Expected to arrive in 2 hrs. and 31 mins.

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London Heathrow Jun 03 09:47 AM Moncton NB Jun 03 02:09 PM

Departed 5 hrs. and 50 mins. ago. Expected to arrive in 2 hrs. and 31 mins.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16286 times:

FoxNews now says VS-45(H) is an A-340 with 271 passengers aboard. Now he is diverted to Halifax. CF-18s have arrived on her wings.

User currently offlineEADC8 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16289 times:

According to FOX News Channel, the squawk was 7500, not 7600, and there are fighter escorts that are going to meet the plane, which is VS 45 by the way. LHR-JFK


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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7123 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16282 times:

Aircraft is G-VEIL

A346

Departed Heathrow this morning at 09:35L Took off 09:59L

[Edited 2005-06-03 16:43:22]


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13088 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16249 times:

This is a flight LHR-JFK. Apparently it was an error by the pilots whom used the 'hijacking' code. From the above suggestions, it seems to be very close to the code for communications problems. One report said it was being diverted to Halifax, but who knows, maybe they don't want the exact info until on the ground for security reasons. Bet those pax are going to be a bit wired about this!  scared 

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16205 times:

So 7500 or 7600? Quite a difference.

User currently offlineJetBlue From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 393 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16196 times:

Virgin Atlantic 45 is an Airbus A340-600.

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16150 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 15):
This is a flight LHR-JFK. Apparently it was an error by the pilots whom used the 'hijacking' code. From the above suggestions, it seems to be very close to the code for communications problems.

A difficult error to make for trained pilots.


User currently offlineA319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 16066 times:

I can't imagine the pilots accidentily used the 7500 squawk code in stead of 7600. ACARS is probably still on line so they told the Virgin dispatchers nothing was going on, just loss of radio contact.


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User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 15857 times:

Sorry about the title I meant 7500 the hijack code, in my haste to paste i missed it.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 15729 times:

Has VS-45(H) landed in Halifax, yet?

User currently offlineEADC8 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 15650 times:

According to FOX, plane is now on ground


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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 15625 times:

Quoting Vunz (Reply 10):

Virgin Atlantic said it had contacted the pilot, who said the aircraft was not being hijacked, but as a precaution the plane was being sent an airport in Halifax, Canada.

Do they really contact the pilot? IF it had been a real hijacking wouldn't that have made the hijacker angry to find out that the pilot had sounded the alarm?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21515 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 15610 times:

All is well. Just an error/malfunction, according to latest news, and plane will be on way shortly to JFK. 2pm arrival.


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25 KC135TopBoom : I hope they use their second transponder.
26 777WT : According to Aeroseek.com, this is what it shows: FlightID: VIR45 (Commercial Jet) Status: ARRIVED Owner: VIRGIN ATLANTIC Radio Call: VIRGIN Type: A3
27 Post contains images Jkw777 : Good news to hear this was nothing serious. When the news was brought to my attention I feared for the worst possible ending. Out of curiosity, if thi
28 Post contains images FlyKiWi : Squawking 7500 instead of 7600 can get you into trouble... this happened not long ago here in Hungary. An austrian GA aircraft was flying a VFR route,
29 Arrow : Good question. There's no doubt in my mind that in U.S. airspace, with an escort of US fighters, the order to shoot down would come from Washington a
30 MKEdude : Quick question, why divert to Halifax and not Bangor as other Trans-Atlantic diverts have done?
31 Newark777 : Probably becuase it was intercepted by the Canadians, and therefore will divert to Canada. Harry
32 Post contains images Fly727 : To all pilots out there still with the confusion with the special sqwaks: Seven-five: Caught a life. (Hijacking). Seven-six: Need to fix. (duh). Seven
33 AA54Heavy : From what I understand, the US flatly refused the plane clearance to enter US airspace or land in the US until they figured out what was going on...t
34 Post contains images Clickhappy : only 271 pax on the flight How many seats does a Virgin A346 have?
35 Post contains links and images September11 : is this a VS A340? View Large View MediumPhoto © Mike Moores Not bad looking airplane.
36 Posti : Media coverage of this is priceless From MSNBC - The aircraft is a Boeing 340 - Canadian authorities heard the pilots hijacking code Anyways, glad to
37 Robsawatsky : An assumption that ANY hijacking would result in an immediate order to shoot-down when in US airspace is absurd IMHO. Yes, I'll grant that the US auth
38 Post contains links VS747SPUR : More info here on a British site http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4607657.stm My knowledge of this is not too good, could anyone explain to me how this h
39 Post contains links AAFLT1871 : Story from MSN http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8085449/
40 Aerobalance : Thank God you don't run your country, quite an absurd generalization you make there. How fast can you pull a trigger?
41 Post contains links Gladave : http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13363775,00.html sky got wrong picture :p
42 S12PPL : Man, guys...You are all acting like this is the biggest deal of the year...It was a simple mistake and you are all sitting here acting like experts an
43 EnviroTO : If a hijacking signal was sent on the transponder then the pilot accidentally dialed the hijack transponder code or purposely dialed the hijack transp
44 Post contains links BigPhilNYC : http://nycaviation.com/news/virginhijack1
45 APFPilot1985 : MSNBC was pretty dumb with the coverage, their map showed the great circle route going southerly. They showed a picture of an A343 in the old livery.
46 HangarRash : EnviroTO, Thats pretty darn unlikely. In fact, its wrong. If it was "dialed accidentally" as you say, it could have easily been "undialed". On purpos
47 N1120A : A squak is a radar signature, not a radio call
48 DarthRandall : The pilot was probably just cycling his codes, which aircraft do when they enter sovereign airspace, and the beacon interrogator picked up the 7500 sq
49 Lt-AWACS : It would have been CANR not NEADS at that point DarthR. Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns, Capt-AWACS, I'll take Italian Opera for $500 Alex
50 Post contains images Netdhaka : I didn't know that Boeing manufactured 340!
51 Arrow : Other than Halifax, of course.
52 DarthRandall : They would have handed it over to CANR when it entered their ADIZ, but the decision to transfer it to Halifax would have already been handled at NEADS
53 TymnBalewne : ** VS - VIRGIN ATLANTIC AIRWAYS ** 0045/03JUN P LHR/OUT 0935. L/0835.Z DL 37 A/C G-VEIL P LHR/OFF 0959. L/0859.Z A/C G-VEIL P JFK/ON 1634. L/2034.Z DL
54 YYZatcboy : better than, Halifax, Truro, Amherst St. John and Charlottetown. ( not that I would find it remotely likely that someone would target these places.)
55 Myk : So the big question is now : What really happened ? I really can't imagine that an experienced Pilot squawks 7500 !!! Anyone having an info about the
56 DarthRandall : It's just lower on their list of priorities than New York. Don't feel too bad about it. Valdez, Alaska, which is where the pipeline connects to the G
57 Lt-AWACS : No NEADS would not have been involved other than as an observer due to the flight path at that time. Their inputs on destination would be noted up th
58 Derik737 : *Yawn* They are only human after all. It happens. It's happened here in the US after 9/11 and unless there has been a big coverup, the planes weren't
59 VC-10 : That is entirely possible.
60 Post contains images Zvezda : That's why you're not qualified to work at a Microsoft news agency. Who would trust an organization with such an utter contempt for getting anything
61 Abbs380 : Give me a break. Cant you see the headline " AIRCRAFT SHOUTS HIJACK BUT NO ONE LISTENS".
62 DarthRandall : You may be right. I'm not entirely familiar with the eastern half of CANR's ADIZ. I had assumed it would have flown into NEADS territory first. Speak
63 Post contains images Backfire : The A.net coverage hasn't exactly been impressive
64 Mir : ATC will ask the pilot if he or she is really intending to squawk 7500. If the pilot answers yes, then that's that, and ATC will take appropriate ste
65 WJA73G : WHY ARE ALL OF THE BROADCASTERS TELLING THE WORLD THE HIJACKING CODE??!!! Isn't this thing supposed to be a secret? WJA73G
66 Post contains links Flyingbronco05 : Um no. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...safe=off&q=transponder+hijack+code
67 Spike : Why is this news anyway? Just cause everyone wants to see another 9/11 live on TV. Turn off.
68 777STL : Someone needs to revoke your posting privileges for that ignorant generalization.
69 Lt-AWACS : I was, I was at Tyndall in 2000 and did a little time at SEADS even, after the school house. I'm an SD now. Not yet. The ADIZ line as I see it on my
70 Zvezda : A secret of which tens of thousands need to know cannot be kept secret.
71 DarthRandall : That's when I was there too. I probably drove for you at one point. Do you remember Airman Braveboy in Block 4? 7500 is a Mode 3 code, and those are
72 Post contains images FlyAUA : This is all correct, except that we as controllers are not allowed to mention a hijack until the pilot him/herself has mentioned it first. That's wha
73 B744F : Wow look at all the people on edge! Shoot it down immediately?
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