Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21890 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13763 times:
old people are scary once dementia kicks in.
one guy killed and maimed 10s of people here in santa monica, ca because he drove through the farmers market. he made a wrong turn, and then hit the gas instead of the brake, and claimed it was a mistake, but people who were watching him said he looked calm, not confused or panicked. and he plowed through lots of people while accelerating.
a few weeks earlier he had turned directly into the front of a bank building. yet they still let him drive...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Human nature just makes people want to do whatever it is the thing is made for. Obviously, the majority of passengers know what the door is, and know not to pull its lever.
However, when confused, if you think something is whatever it is you're looking for, you would use the handle. This is why they work so well in emergencies, they are easy to open, and people know how to do it. No point having an emergency door if no-one can operate it!
The flipside is when people get confused and try and do it mistakenly!!
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8376 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13538 times:
Hawaiian Airlines spokesman Keoni Wagner said..."There was no consequence -- the door did not open, there was no loss of cabin pressure or any of that stuff." Where the hell do Hawaiian Airlines find their so-called spokesmen?! Kindergarten in the San Fernando Valley?! "...Or any of that stuff"?! The mind boggles.
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RDURAMPER From United States of America, joined May 2005, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13508 times:
I know that during provisioning training we were told if you look thru the window and the red flag is down, try to look through to the other side to see who is standing there before you start knocking on the door. You just never know when there will be an elderly person trying to help out the nice young man out there...
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Travatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2175 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13496 times:
I'm still amazed at how many people with apparent full mental capacities, attempt to open the cockpit door or better yet, that tiny closet door, thinking it's the lavatory. Unfamiliar environements make people do strange things.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30102 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13413 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 11): Hawaiian Airlines spokesman Keoni Wagner said..."There was no consequence -- the door did not open, there was no loss of cabin pressure or any of that stuff." Where the hell do Hawaiian Airlines find their so-called spokesmen?! Kindergarten in the San Fernando Valley?! "...Or any of that stuff"?! The mind boggles.
I think he was speaking to that portion of the public, who's only knowledge of airplanes comes from watching the Airport movies, when they first came out. Stupid as it sounds there are people who wonder that.
Quoting Litz (Reply 9): I've always wondered, though ... that big, huge red lever on a CRJ's door ...
and the accompanying sticker on the stair ...
"DO NOT OPEN DURING FLIGHT"
I think it has something to do with Canadian Airplanes.
I remember that DHC had to put out a SB to relable the lav door and the aft gally door on the Dash-8-300 because people where getting the two confused.
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PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2044 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13386 times:
I still marvel at the number of people who can't figure out how to open the folding style lavatory doors. Why on earth manufactures still have ashtrays on the front of these doors I'll never understand. One one flight, I watched over 2 dozen passengers pull the astray out of the door instead of pushing where the door handle says "PUSH". So, I don't blame the old fart for seeing an actual door handle and giving it a tug.
Bwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13318 times:
And the number of passengers who tug on the flight deck door handle instead of the foward toilet on a 737/757, even though the flight deck door has a big sign saying "CREW ONLY" and the toilet door has a big sign saying "TOILET".
We say to the passengers who try that, Don't go through there and do what you were going to do, it doesn't make the Captain a happy chappy".
And the people who tug the ashtray - Turn the handle - it works just like the door on your trailer!
Did you know that's it's a no go item if an ashtray is missing on a door?! Even though smoking's not allowed, you still need somewhere safe to put a ciggy out if some idiot tries to light up. After all, you don't want it going in the toilet bin - full of paper towels.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14531 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13188 times:
I really doubt that this man was able to operate the door handle. The door gets pressed firmly into it´s seat by cabin pressure and even the Governator wouldn´t be able to open it or force the handle.
It is a PLUG TYPE DOOR, g*ddamnit!
Sorry, ANCFlyer, but I have to borrow your Bullshit flag!