Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 74 Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13713 times:
Mrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13683 times:
Just wanted to post the same. Here the list:
1 Cathay Pacific
2 Qantas Airways
3 Emirates
4 Singapore Airlines
5 British Airways
6 Malaysia Airlines
7 Thai Airways
No surprise for me that nothing from Europe and US (except BA) in this list! European and US Airlnes are losing ground with the disgusting prducts the offer..
Edit: Things even become more clear when one looks at rank 8, 9, 10
8. Qatar Airways,
9. Asiana Airlines
10. ANA All Nippon Airways
Surprise for me that ANA is part of teh list, as I was told their seat pitch on only for people below 5 feet
Way to go ASIA! You produce the best airlines in the world
Lovely. Good to see QF up there. MH and TG have come a long way and their cabin products have suddenly jumped above many U.S. and European products. Enhanced by their brilliant cabin services, they are really going to shine in the future.
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1): European and US Airlnes are losing ground with the disgusting prducts the offer..
The U.S. airlines have enough issues with bankruptcy. Good to see JetBlue is the star for the United States.
FlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 7212 posts, RR: 65 Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13317 times:
Between 15 and 20 different airlines receive every year the award of "Airline of the year" !!! Each and every Travel or Business magazine or association nominates its own classification ...
"TOP 10" rankings are bullshit and doesn't mean anything as ranking an airline is one of the most subjective choice ...
RIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1779 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12971 times:
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1): No surprise...nothing from Europe and US (except BA) in this list
No surprise about US, but quite a surprise about Europe. It was always, 1.Asia 2.Europe 3. US (between these three), now it looks like 2 and 3 are getting very close... And, of course, not a surprise at all BA is one of the best. Glad to see Finnair named one of the best in Europe - absolutely deserved but always underrated.
JpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3990 posts, RR: 35 Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12880 times:
And PGA Portugalia ranked 2nd best in europe!
I litereally know nothing about this airline, anyone care to fill me in?
Texdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1265 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12465 times:
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1): Way to go ASIA! You produce the best airlines in the world
ACdreamliner From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 500 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12474 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3): FlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 2098 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted Sat Jun 4 2005 16:39:50 UTC+2 and read 832 times:
Between 15 and 20 different airlines receive every year the award of "Airline of the year" !!! Each and every Travel or Business magazine or association nominates its own classification ...
"TOP 10" rankings are bullshit and doesn't mean anything as ranking an airline is one of the most subjective choice ...
Palladium From Indonesia, joined Apr 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11915 times:
Cathay Pacific is always my favorite airlines and I have flown several times with cathay and their service both on the ground and in the air are superb, no wonder they are number 1 airlines in the world now.
AlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11806 times:
I'm getting a bit tired of these league tables... It's very subjective to say which airline is the best! If what you want is smiling Asian babes serving government subsidized food and drinks onboard subsidized planes then great! For me, I'd rather have clean, safe planes with properly trained pilots, and crew that are human and genuinely interested in providing service, all this gained on merit, not grants...
AirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 1730 posts, RR: 24 Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11774 times:
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1): No surprise for me that nothing from Europe and US (except BA) in this list! European and US Airlnes are losing ground with the disgusting prducts the offer..
With the salaries we have in the western world, it is more difficult to offer luxury service to the same price as asian carriers, because in Asia like in India where you still dont have the same living standards as in Europe and the US, you dont pay as much money to your employees as we do, and you dont have many taxes either, but if you think you can make money on having the best service around on an airline that is based in Europe or the US, then go ahead!
Its just not going to be easy
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11718 times:
Best Financial Performance ?
For some above just putting in a lot of crew, catering, seat pitch & IFE is part of showing national pride, profitability trade-offs are not so important.
Business class (intercontinental)
Gulf Air, United Arab Emirates
Continental, United States
bmi British Midland, United Kingdom
Very, very nice to ONE U.S. based carrier in the TOP 3 Business Class . . .Continental! Since CO doesn't have a First Class, only Business Class, this is indeed a pleasant surprise.
FA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11632 times:
about B6:
"Actually, the U.S. carrier that performed best on the Skytrax survey was JetBlue. The scrappy New York-based discounter was named the world's top low-cost airline.
That makes sense to me. After all, JetBlue combines some of its nation's best cultural values. It's innovative -- love that satellite TV service -- with an energetic workforce. On the operations side, the company hums with an efficiency to make an MBA proud, streamlined from seats to fleet."
Aerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1515 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11253 times:
These ranking means nothing. Hardly a representative survery of people who travel. The way the ranking is done - based upon a select number of people who don't mind answering surveys. I have been part of such a survey myself concerning airline lounges. The interesting thing about that survey, was that it did not have lounges of all airlines. The majority of the lounges in question were those of American carriers 1 Asian and if I remember correctly 2 European carrier
Aa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3289 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11246 times:
Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 5):
and behold! Jetblue ranked below Air Canada?
I guess jetBlue's intercontinental service isn't up to par with their domestic offerings.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11570 posts, RR: 53 Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11149 times:
Quoting Aa757first (Reply 18): I guess jetBlue's intercontinental service isn't up to par with their domestic offerings.
AAndrew
Yeah and where was AA in all of this, domestic or international?
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10815 times:
Congratulations to Qantas!
If you want to be a Millionaire, start with a billion dollars and launch a new airline.
ManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1178 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10768 times:
Agree that these rankings mean nothing. If you travel on the Gatwick Express you'll know that Continental are the world's best airline
= Great point. I totally forgot about them. Wonder why they slipped so bad.
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 13): With the salaries we have in the western world, it is more difficult to offer luxury service to the same price as asian carriers, because in Asia like in India where you still dont have the same living standards as in Europe and the US, you dont pay as much money to your employees as we do, and you dont have many taxes either, but if you think you can make money on having the best service around on an airline that is based in Europe or the US, then go ahead!
Its just not going to be easy
= Is there some new whining disease that people from Europe have got? Isn't the Airbus whining enough? India - I will give you that. But if you have any knowledge, you should know that living standards of Japan, Hong Kong are higher than composite Europe and Singapore, UAE, Australia, Korea very close to it. Their airlines (CX, SQ, NH, QF, EK, OZ) make the top has nothing to do with PPP adjusted wage differentials or national living standards. Even the other ranked Asian airlines - MH, TG, QR all come from middle-income countries - I dont see TAROM, LOT, Olympic making the list.
Dont find faults just because Europe did not do well. If you look at past records, there has been several great european airlines - BA, SR, and I think AY iis superb as well. Dont feel "robbed" please.
MartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9958 times:
A quite agree. except AC best North American Airline....? Give me a break, they should be put on the level system 4/10 (1 worst, 10 best) for their food and especially the crappy service they offer... bah!! and rhaaa!
SQuared From Canada, joined May 2005, 372 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9756 times:
Quoting MartinairYYZ (Reply 23): A quite agree. except AC best North American Airline....? Give me a break, they should be put on the level system 4/10 (1 worst, 10 best) for their food and especially the crappy service they offer... bah!! and rhaaa!
AC has improved significantly over the past few months, and they aren't that bad. Compared to a lot of North American airlines, AC is one of the better ones.
The crew, though less efficient than their counterparts on CX, MH and SQ, are more friendly than in years past. Seat pitch in Y is adequate and more generous than CO's 31". My meals on long-haul with AC have ranged from average to great. So all in all, I'm not that surprised that AC is the best in North Am. I mean, the competition isn't exactly SQ, CX, QR or BA!
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25 N270FT: What about SONG. I think they are the best LCC and always try to get on them when I'm in the US. I have been in Jet Blue one from MCO-JFK and, althoug
26 B787: Are you saying these airlines don't have clean, safe planes with properly trained pilots, and crew that are human and genuinely interested in providi
27 Milan320: I'm not sure if AC isn't getting actually worse. I know it's become the norm to purchase food on board now. Although I know AC has been doing that fo
28 Ronenec: What about EL AL ? Does anyone know if it is on that list ? I know that in the past they won some prizes...
29 Crogalski: I believe SONG would count under DL, since thats pretty much all SONG is.
30 JetBlueAtJFK: Well I am glad B6 tops a couple charts. Their overall product is very good and that is why I like them much more. I can go on and on.... Even though I
31 Crogalski: I love B6 also, although I dont think DL dragged SONG down, because SONG is pretty much a copy of B6. I think SONG was a stupid idea, because DL shou
32 AirWillie6475: No surprises on the rankings except for Frontier who was 3rd in LCCs in North America. No body seems to give Frontier any credit, its always Jetblue,
36 AirbusfanYYZ: Jeez Martin! Enough already with your childish AC bashing... just how many times have you flown them 2-3 times? I have over 150 sectors on them with
37 Trolley Dolley: Sigh, the usual myths are run out when these polls get posted. Skytrax though is one of the most international, with over 3 million votes from around
38 FlyAUA: Thanks for the great info... good to see AUA in the lists And that all of the low-cost airlines in the list fly Airbus aircraft
39 Jaysit: I'd rather have clean, safe planes with properly trained pilots, and crew that are human and genuinely interested in providing service, all this gaine
40 Meerkat: Agreed. One could also argue that the US "legacy" carriers are sub'd, and where are they on the list?[Edited 2005-06-06 03:10:54]
41 VHXLR8: If the level of service onboard an airline equates to the wages of the staff and the taxes in the country of origin, how does Qantas receive such hig
42 MidnightMike: Even when the US airlines were turning a profit, they have never had good service when compared to Singapore & ANA. I used to ride United, American,
43 TAP1972: PGA for the 4th consecutive year (2004) was considered the best Regional Airliner of Europe by Skytrax. Also, in May, for 2nd consecutive year receiv
44 Cornish: Exactly - somehow I don't think its any coincidence that generally the airlines that have reputations for excellent on board service seem somehow to
45 Bmacleod: So are you saying that AC no longer offers purchase food on its flights, only gives out snacks?
46 ExFATboy: Good to see Qantas getting the recognition it deserves!
47 Bearcuban12: No Surprise that LH does not make an appearance anywhere....... I bet they would not even win best FRA based airline....
48 SwissA330: this list is bullshit IMHO... as are almost all these lists. The only fair way to make such a list would be to: -send a couple of hundred people -with
49 Trolley Dolley: I must correct my previous post. Skytrax was voted by over 12million people in 94 countries. 12 million is a large enough sample of the world's flying
50 Econojetter: Of the various organisations that rank airlines, Skytrax is certainly the only one of its kind - the only one that deals exclusively with the merits o
51 AirNZ: Reply 12, posted Sat Jun 4 2005 22:33:14 UTC+2 and read 7315 times: "I'm getting a bit tired of these league tables... It's very subjective to say whi
52 Soundtrack: Thai's business class sucks! Okay - looks like the newer aircraft finally have it in gear - but for the money you pay for bus. class at TG - better of
53 Victor: it's not ture that the salaries we have in the western world is more expensive than far east. i really doubt SQ, NH , CX n QF can offer low pay to th
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