LH600 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 130 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2341 times:
This is something that I have been working on for a while now. I know that this is currently impossible due to the political climate. Is this even possible in the future?? I'd love to get comments on whether or not this would work. What do you think???
(PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A POLITICAL DISCUSSION)
(Most of the domestic flights would be operated by other carriers. Iran Air would mostly operate domestic connecting flights for passengers wanting to travel to other cities in Iran via its only hub in Tehran.)
N77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2345 times:
Iran has plenty of cash on hand, almost zero foreign debt, and the technical know-how to acquire Boeing's newest jets. If allowed to, its only problem securing new planes would be the waiting time on the Boeing delivery waitlist.
As far as alliances, Skyteam would be a perfect fit. With EK and other Gulf carriers reluctant to join an alliance, IR, with a huge domestic market, central location, and inherent J-class market, would be an excellent fit in the alliance.
A likely scenario; codeshare with KL/NW/CO on THR-AMS routes with North American destinations. AF is busy with ME right now...how would that work?
Nonstop service on B777-200LR's to EWR, LAX, YYZ?, IAH? SFO?, DTW?
B767-300's an interim step until 787's are ready.
Make THR terminal a worthy alternative to DXB and AUH.
Develope a world class cargo product.
Look into BBJ service for high value oil market and european connections: LHR, VIE, AMS.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2252 times:
My Iran Air vision of the future, is the US still treating them as a pariah state, so no Boeings. I reckon they might get some A300-600Rs off Monarch when MON finally get rid of them!
Poor Iran Air. They really should be allowed to buy some new aircraft.
FlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 6355 posts, RR: 65 Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2205 times:
Not Bad.... But I don't think that an-all Boeing fleet is suitable for IR.
First, instead of the B738, I would see a mix of A319/A320/A321, to offer more adapted frequencies on short/medium routes and operate THR as a regional HUB, rather using 1 or 2 frequencies with a widebody.
BEY-THR for example can handle easily a DAILY A319 ...
I would keep the B777LR but would replace the B767 by a much better A332.
IR needs also a fleet of turboprop or Regional Jet, especially for the domestic market, and to reach the remote point of the country.
2 x Daily IFN-THR with a B767 can't be profitable ... I'd better see a 5 x Daily A319 ...
Planenutz From United States, joined Dec 1999, 1191 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2149 times:
I think that it would almost be necessary to include "Airline of the Islamic Republic of Iran" in any new branding.as opposed to "The Iranian Flag Carrier" or even "The Airline of Iran".
LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2099 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6): IR needs also a fleet of turboprop or Regional Jet, especially for the domestic market, and to reach the remote point of the country.
WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2085 times:
There is no reason why not, and Iran Air could benefit from fleet renewals with leases from another carrier/leasing company such as EK.
The 772ER and A332 could be impoprtant stopgap aircraft cascaded to IR in the short term as EK will potentially have some available as newer aircraft become available. The Rolls Royce powerplants will be easier to source spares for than USA built engines.
LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14): Why not ? IranAir operates already a fleet of 8 F-100...
I know and there's that Iranian airline, Simorgh Airlines which already ordered 25 of the new Fokker 70's. Iran is a constant talk in the Rekkof project.
Fokkerf28 From United States, joined Feb 2004, 137 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1953 times:
Love It, especially the new Livery.. Mixed fleet of boeings and airbuses would be nice. Not to put all of ones eggs in one basket. A330 would be a nice addition and loose the the 767.
T154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1851 times:
Beautiful, wish it could happen one day. If that was the case iran would be a free market economy at that time and with business and tourists flocking to explore the country, therefore i would assume daily services to all regional cities such as Beirut, damascus, amman etc if not 2xdaily with 319/738. More flights to SE asia and N asia. why not australia as well?
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1820 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5):
Poor Iran Air. They really should be allowed to buy some new aircraft.
The EU tried to negotiate with Iran, allow nuclear inspections and in trade for Airbus/Boeing airplanes. Didn't work. If Iran wants airplanes, they can get them, they're just going to have to jump through a western-world hoop to do so.
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6): I would keep the B777LR but would replace the B767 by a much better A332.
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 74 Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1823 times:
That would be great!
Assuming the retarded US embargo is removed, they'll also have to normalise relations with Egypt (which is another hurdle on its own) before launching flights to CAI. If that happens I would imagine MS and IR going for non-stop flights between the two capitals considering they are the largest Middle Eastern countries (in terms of population).
LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1704 times:
Quoting LH600 (Reply 21): What does everyone think of the Airline partners I chose? Would Swiss be a good partner for IR?
Well, you chose 1 SkyTeam member and 1 SkyTeam-to-be-member. Swiss would be a strange one, because it's linked to Star Alliance now due to the Lufthansa take over. I think Air France would make a better fit and with it, Iran can have a partnership with SkyTeam.
AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4372 posts, RR: 60 Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
Slightly wishful thinking in the short run, but let's hope it can happen. I remember N1120A saying that Iran Air has stated that they prefer Boeing jets.
LAX-THR with the 747-SP would be nice for now though, until they get 777-286LRs. Now I'd definitely go down to LAX to see that arriving...
Avek00 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 3272 posts, RR: 22 Reply 25, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1676 times:
Quoting Horus (Reply 19): Assuming the retarded US embargo is removed,
Didn't the OP indicate NO POLITICS in this thread?
Thank you for choosing Continental Airlines, a member of the Star Alliance network.
26 SAS_A330-300: I was quite happy to see a flight between YYZ and ARN but I don't know if you can fly a 777 profitable daily, maybe with an A330 or a 777 with fewer
27 LH600: Swissair/Swiss used to fly to Tehran from Zurich for many years and the flights were only canceled (along with many other destinations) because of th
28 N77014: IAE powered A320 family aircraft have never done well is desert heat. Just ask HP. A hub with more frequencies also depends on O/D more; right now th
29 B727fan: LH600, what a nice dream, and a great job by the way. Hey if THR-TLV ever goes on, you may want to add SYZ-TLV to the list. I know of many many Irania
30 DfwRevolution: Well you can't avoid the obvious... I agree... nice graphics.
31 LY7E7: Certainly not on a daily basis though. But considering the amount of traffic on TLV-THR route before the revolution a 738 maybe a bit small .
32 N1120A: Both of you have to remember the repeated statements by both Iran Air management and the Iranian government (who own Iran Air) that they prefer Boein
33 LH600: What do you think??? Just for fun. Iran Air was actually pretty close to getting these... [Edited 2005-06-06 09:46:23]
34 N1120A: Didn't they order something like 12? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
35 LH600: LOL...I know. I would much rather see IR operating Boeing aircraft.[Edited 2005-06-06 09:53:04]
36 N77014: Any plans for IR to consolidate their current network to offer more frequencies in a less far-flung destination map?
37 LifelinerOne: Yep, But KLM isn't and KLM has been flying to THR for quite a while. Cheers!
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