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Iran Air Of The Future?  
User currently offlineLH600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 164 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

This is something that I have been working on for a while now. I know that this is currently impossible due to the political climate. Is this even possible in the future?? I'd love to get comments on whether or not this would work. What do you think???

(PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A POLITICAL DISCUSSION)



















(Most of the domestic flights would be operated by other carriers. Iran Air would mostly operate domestic connecting flights for passengers wanting to travel to other cities in Iran via its only hub in Tehran.)

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26538 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 5961 times:

Well, not a bad list, though I would like to see some bigger metal (747ADV, 77W) and, of course, more flights to Tabriz


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User currently offlineN77014 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 22 hours ago) and read 5982 times:

Iran has plenty of cash on hand, almost zero foreign debt, and the technical know-how to acquire Boeing's newest jets. If allowed to, its only problem securing new planes would be the waiting time on the Boeing delivery waitlist.


As far as alliances, Skyteam would be a perfect fit. With EK and other Gulf carriers reluctant to join an alliance, IR, with a huge domestic market, central location, and inherent J-class market, would be an excellent fit in the alliance.

A likely scenario; codeshare with KL/NW/CO on THR-AMS routes with North American destinations. AF is busy with ME right now...how would that work?

Nonstop service on B777-200LR's to EWR, LAX, YYZ?, IAH? SFO?, DTW?
B767-300's an interim step until 787's are ready.

Make THR terminal a worthy alternative to DXB and AUH.

Develope a world class cargo product.

Look into BBJ service for high value oil market and european connections: LHR, VIE, AMS.

[Edited 2005-06-05 10:00:34]

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7637 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 21 hours ago) and read 5922 times:

I the US will not sell aircraft to them, then they might have to go elsewhere.

User currently offlineLY7E7 From Israel, joined Jun 2004, 2256 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 21 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

Looks nice and I hope it will come true one day.

BTW, Why the all-Boeing fleet?



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

My Iran Air vision of the future, is the US still treating them as a pariah state, so no Boeings. I reckon they might get some A300-600Rs off Monarch when MON finally get rid of them!

Poor Iran Air. They really should be allowed to buy some new aircraft.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 5842 times:

Not Bad.... But I don't think that an-all Boeing fleet is suitable for IR.

First, instead of the B738, I would see a mix of A319/A320/A321, to offer more adapted frequencies on short/medium routes and operate THR as a regional HUB, rather using 1 or 2 frequencies with a widebody.
BEY-THR for example can handle easily a DAILY A319 ...

I would keep the B777LR but would replace the B767 by a much better A332.

IR needs also a fleet of turboprop or Regional Jet, especially for the domestic market, and to reach the remote point of the country.
2 x Daily IFN-THR with a B767 can't be profitable ... I'd better see a 5 x Daily A319 ...


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PS: What happened to the venerable B747SP in your scenario ???  cry 


User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5807 times:

What happened to THR-GOT ?

/JM



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User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5786 times:

I think that it would almost be necessary to include "Airline of the Islamic Republic of Iran" in any new branding.as opposed to "The Iranian Flag Carrier" or even "The Airline of Iran".

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

Actually, it is already the official name as written on all the a/c :


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User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 5761 times:

Yes, what happened to ARN-GOT-THR ?

I also think they would aquire some Airbus aircraft.
Would work well with many of their destinations.


Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 5736 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
IR needs also a fleet of turboprop or Regional Jet, especially for the domestic market, and to reach the remote point of the country.

Ahh, a nice option for the new Fokker 70 and 100.

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

There is no reason why not, and Iran Air could benefit from fleet renewals with leases from another carrier/leasing company such as EK.

The 772ER and A332 could be impoprtant stopgap aircraft cascaded to IR in the short term as EK will potentially have some available as newer aircraft become available. The Rolls Royce powerplants will be easier to source spares for than USA built engines.


User currently offlineGoodday From Japan, joined May 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 5706 times:

Good planning.
LH600, so you prefer EWR than JFK? Is it because you can catch more traffice thru CO EWR hub ?


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 5706 times:

Ahh ! nice option for the new Fokker 70 and

Why not ? IranAir operates already a fleet of 8 F-100...


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But a fleet of CRJ or ERJ would also be very useful...


User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
Why not ? IranAir operates already a fleet of 8 F-100...

I know and there's that Iranian airline, Simorgh Airlines which already ordered 25 of the new Fokker 70's. Iran is a constant talk in the Rekkof project.

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineFokkerf28 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 5590 times:
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Love It, especially the new Livery.. Mixed fleet of boeings and airbuses would be nice. Not to put all of ones eggs in one basket. A330 would be a nice addition and loose the the 767.

User currently offlineT154M From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 12 hours ago) and read 5488 times:

Beautiful, wish it could happen one day. If that was the case iran would be a free market economy at that time and with business and tourists flocking to explore the country, therefore i would assume daily services to all regional cities such as Beirut, damascus, amman etc if not 2xdaily with 319/738. More flights to SE asia and N asia. why not australia as well?

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 979 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5457 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5):

Poor Iran Air. They really should be allowed to buy some new aircraft.

The EU tried to negotiate with Iran, allow nuclear inspections and in trade for Airbus/Boeing airplanes. Didn't work. If Iran wants airplanes, they can get them, they're just going to have to jump through a western-world hoop to do so.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
I would keep the B777LR but would replace the B767 by a much better A332.

The much better aircraft are the 787/A350...  Wink


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5460 times:

That would be great!

Assuming the retarded US embargo is removed, they'll also have to normalise relations with Egypt (which is another hurdle on its own) before launching flights to CAI. If that happens I would imagine MS and IR going for non-stop flights between the two capitals considering they are the largest Middle Eastern countries (in terms of population).

Horus



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User currently offlineLH600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 164 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 5413 times:

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 7):
What happened to THR-GOT ?



Quoting Tommy Mogren (Reply 10):
Yes, what happened to ARN-GOT-THR ?

You're right we can make YYZ-THR non-stop instead of having YYZ-ARN-THR and add GOT-ARN-THR making that daily w/ a 767/A330/A350 size aircraft.

Quoting Goodday (Reply 13):
LH600, so you prefer EWR than JFK? Is it because you can catch more traffice thru CO EWR hub ?

If CO is an Alliance partner then it would make sence for IR to use EWR instead of JFK.

[Edited 2005-06-05 21:47:40]

User currently offlineLH600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 164 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

Quoting T154M (Reply 17):
why not australia as well?

I thought that if IR had Malaysian as an alliance partner then IR passengers could catch flights to Australia via KUL on Malaysian.

What does everyone think of the Airline partners I chose? Would Swiss be a good partner for IR?



User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 5341 times:

Quoting LH600 (Reply 21):
What does everyone think of the Airline partners I chose? Would Swiss be a good partner for IR?

Well, you chose 1 SkyTeam member and 1 SkyTeam-to-be-member. Swiss would be a strange one, because it's linked to Star Alliance now due to the Lufthansa take over. I think Air France would make a better fit and with it, Iran can have a partnership with SkyTeam.

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 5335 times:

From no flight to a double daily ZRH-THR operation? Sounds interesting to me ...  Wink

There where once rumors, that IR might come back to ZRH soon, but nothing happened till now, unfortunately ...



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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4513 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 5325 times:

Slightly wishful thinking in the short run, but let's hope it can happen. I remember N1120A saying that Iran Air has stated that they prefer Boeing jets.

LAX-THR with the 747-SP would be nice for now though, until they get 777-286LRs. Now I'd definitely go down to LAX to see that arriving...



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25 Avek00 : Didn't the OP indicate NO POLITICS in this thread?
26 SAS_A330-300 : I was quite happy to see a flight between YYZ and ARN but I don't know if you can fly a 777 profitable daily, maybe with an A330 or a 777 with fewer
27 LH600 : Swissair/Swiss used to fly to Tehran from Zurich for many years and the flights were only canceled (along with many other destinations) because of th
28 N77014 : IAE powered A320 family aircraft have never done well is desert heat. Just ask HP. A hub with more frequencies also depends on O/D more; right now th
29 B727fan : LH600, what a nice dream, and a great job by the way. Hey if THR-TLV ever goes on, you may want to add SYZ-TLV to the list. I know of many many Irania
30 DfwRevolution : Well you can't avoid the obvious... I agree... nice graphics.
31 LY7E7 : Certainly not on a daily basis though. But considering the amount of traffic on TLV-THR route before the revolution a 738 maybe a bit small .
32 N1120A : Both of you have to remember the repeated statements by both Iran Air management and the Iranian government (who own Iran Air) that they prefer Boein
33 Post contains images LH600 : What do you think??? Just for fun. Iran Air was actually pretty close to getting these... [Edited 2005-06-06 09:46:23]
34 N1120A : Didn't they order something like 12? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
35 LH600 : LOL...I know. I would much rather see IR operating Boeing aircraft.[Edited 2005-06-06 09:53:04]
36 N77014 : Any plans for IR to consolidate their current network to offer more frequencies in a less far-flung destination map?
37 Post contains images LifelinerOne : Yep, But KLM isn't and KLM has been flying to THR for quite a while. Cheers!
38 Post contains images LH600 :
39 Post contains links and images LH600 : Here's a full list of destinations...
40 LH600 : If IR were to join skyteam, would it make sense for both IR and ME to be in the same alliance??
41 N1120A : Yep, and with big metal too. They do brisk business on the LAX-AMS-THR route Sure, why not? SkyTeam has 3 US members
42 Airzim : Like everything else in politics, not quite that simplistic. Flights to TLV. Not in our lifetime.
43 Post contains images LY7E7 : Depending on your exact age it could be that it already happened in your lifetime
44 Airzim : When did Iranair fly to TLV?
45 N1120A : Yes, actually, it was. Pre-Revolution
46 LH600 : From what I heard there were several flights a day before the revolution. There were even 747s operating the route.
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