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User currently offlineJetskipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 381 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

I saw a Midwest B-717 land at CLE at around 0800 this morning. Did Midwest bring back mainline to CLE or was it a charter.

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User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

I checked ... photos of Midwest Airlines jets in airliners.net data base, came up with nothing  thumbsdown  I have no knowledge of Midwest operation in CLE.


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User currently offlineDaus From United States of America, joined May 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting Jetskipper (Thread starter):
Did Midwest bring back mainline to CLE or was it a charter.

Flight schedules only show Midwest Connect's RJs into Cleveland.


User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Skyway only flies into CLE. I'll be at work tonight so if my other MKE buddies don't beat me to it, I should have an answer later today. It was probably a diversion.

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

However, there was Midwest EXPRESS Airlines jet in CLE


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Midwest Airlines & Midwest Express Airlines -- TWO different airline?

Their planes look identical?


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User currently offlineSkyexRamper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 4):

Midwest Express = Original airline in the original livery. Also had the real 4 star meals onboard for free....yuuuummm.

Midwest = the new name, same carrier, people and seating, just new name. HQ wanted to get rid of the "express" as these days it refers to small regional airplanes and HQ thought people were getting confused so they weren't flying us.


User currently offlineUswyjer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

September11, a couple years ago Midwest Express and Skyway rebranded to Midwest Airlines and Midwest Connect; in an attempt to shed the Express connotations of being a regional airline.

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

Quoting Uswyjer (Reply 6):

thanks for the explanation!

here's photo of Midwest CONNECT planes
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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

There is an old Midwest Dc-9 sitting on the Air Services pad, its been there for almost a year now.


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User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

YX should start mainline CLE services. By the way, since I often start YX threads I was happy that someone else did this time... As long as we're on the YX subject, is there any market for overseas traffic from MCI?? Ok, maybe YX ever flying more than 2500 nm direct sounds crazy, but I know I'm not the only one here who has thought about YX starting up long-distances services.

Staying with the original topic, is YX afraid to go into well-established markets or the big-boys' hubs? What about SLC, Oakland, PDX, SEA, DET(??), etc?

Hope I didn't digress too much on that one.


User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 588 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Long distance services by YX is impossible. The current fleet can't do it and its much too costly to acquire aircraft, parts, and train flight crews, maintenance, and ground crews. Long distance costs a great deal of money. Money YX has never had.

User currently offlineIlovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Jeb94-- I'm mostly talking about once they've built up their domestic network. I would think they could maybe offer some competitive prices from their MCI hub. Obviously this would be way down the road, but it would be a good plan to have on the shelf when they get out of their financial quagmire and start growing a little more.

User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

The aircraft diverted to CLE from EWR this morning due to a MTC issue. MTC from MKE is being sent to CLE to fix it. Passengers were rerouted to MKE.
One can only wish Mainline came back to CLE.
By the way, the flight that diverted was YX273.

[Edited 2005-06-07 22:33:46]

User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

I saw that plane sitting there on the ride in from Riveredge. I got excited for a moment but figured it was probably a maint. issue since YX hasn't been in CLE for years. Would that be CLE's first ever 717 or has/did TW, FL or YX diverted planes in before?

By the way, I saw CO's 757 with winglets at CLE today, it looked a lot better than I expected it to!

-Andrew


User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4356 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting Ilovenz (Reply 11):
Jeb94-- I'm mostly talking about once they've built up their domestic network. I would think they could maybe offer some competitive prices from their MCI hub. Obviously this would be way down the road, but it would be a good plan to have on the shelf when they get out of their financial quagmire and start growing a little more.

Midwest grows very slowly and doesn't take very many risks as far as routes go. There will be opportunities to add a few new routes with the rest of the 717's coming, but not too much. I doubt anyone would be remotely thinking about long range international service this decade. Just curious, but why do you think they would do this out of MCI predominantly?



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User currently offlineConcentriq From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 4):
Midwest Airlines & Midwest Express Airlines -- TWO different airline?

this brings up another question. (this one is to the mods). Since A.net tries to keep an accurate and quality database, how do they handle name changes of the airlines? this here serves as a perfect example. i think that A.net should change all the "Midwest Express" images to "Midwest Airlines" and add a caption someplace "(Formerly Midwest Express)". also make them searchable by both: new and old names. a simple SQL command. Your thoughts?



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

Quoting Ilovenz (Reply 9):
YX should start mainline CLE services. By the way, since I often start YX threads I was happy that someone else did this time... As long as we're on the YX subject, is there any market for overseas traffic from MCI?? Ok, maybe YX ever flying more than 2500 nm direct sounds crazy, but I know I'm not the only one here who has thought about YX starting up long-distances services.

Staying with the original topic, is YX afraid to go into well-established markets or the big-boys' hubs? What about SLC, Oakland, PDX, SEA, DET(??), etc?

Hope I didn't digress too much on that one.

Since there flights right now to MKE force you to have long connections in one direction or another I can not really see it happening.



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User currently offlineConcentriq From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

I fly MKE-CLE often via YX (about 6-7 times per year), and nearly every time the planes are full, or have 1 or 2 seats empty. I dont know exact loads on that route, but it SEEMS that demand is higher that the capacity, which then would naturally make sence to bring a higher capacity B717 onto that route. can anyone confirm that or am i full of it?


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

TW did have a 717 in CLE at least once, I remember seeing it.


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