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1982: Northeastern DC-8 On ISP's 6000-ft Rwy  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

(Ignore the fake link in the next line)

In the other thread I forgot to mention that when Northeastern was flying DC-8s (-52s, maybe?) to Florida from ISP the longest runway there was 5999 ft. I'm guessing Trans Caribbean never flew their DC-8 out of STT, so: anybody know of any DC-8 or 707 schedule off a shorter runway than that?

[Edited 2005-06-08 01:52:21]

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User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

For the record Northeastern did fly the DC-8-52 and later -62 out of ISP, also HA flew a -62 out of there a few times operating a sub service for Northeastern, My first flight in and out of ISP was on N8973U a former UA DC-8-62. I remember the outboard engines hanging out over the grass due to ISP's narrow taxiways. BTW those -62's had 204 seats and QS sent them out of there full almost every day. After all after flying UA routes like EWR-HNL nonstop ISP-FLL neaded about a 1/4 tank of gas, and like the 757, the -62 was a real HOT ROD !

Regards

LGA777


User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

They used to fly A300s off that runway, too, didn't they? Those flights must have been severely weight restricted quite often. What year did ISP expand their main runway to 7,000 feet?

User currently offlineSspontak From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Did Northeastern really fly their A300's out of ISP? I seem to remember the A300's flew out of JFK. Can anyone confirm?


Go Delta!
User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Unless it was a last-minute swap, Northeastern never flew the A300 out of ISP. They flew them from JFK to Florida for the most part. ISP was served with DC-8's and 727's. Does anyone know why they used QS as their identifier?

User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

The QS identifier was for Steven Quinto, Northeastern's founder.Pres.Ceo among other things. The A-300's never served ISP trust me. The A-300 routes were JFK-MCO/PBI/FLL/MIA. and MCO-MSY-LAX. and MIA-MSY. I was with QS from late 83 thru late 85 so I was there the entire time the AB3's operated.

Regards

LGA777


User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

LGA777,

I hope I am not too nosey, but what did you do for QS? Can you email me at:

e_jwilson@hotmail.com

I have some questions. Thanks!


User currently offlineExitRowAisle From United States of America, joined May 2000, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

I remember in the 80s going with my dad to visit ISP before the new terminal extensions. Back then, there was only a chain link fence between the parking lot and the ramp. The jets would park right up next to the fence. Back then it was just Northeastern, American, and USAir, plus a few commuters. The Northeastern DC-8s were definitely spectacular up close...I'll never forget the way the engines screamed as they came taxiing in, you needed to hold your ears! The roar when they took off was incredible, not to mention the streams of black smoke pouring out of the engines. Never did get to fly on one or see inside one unfortunately. LGA777, I was curious what the QS interiors were like, did they use the old United interiors or did they have their own color scheme inside?

User currently offlinePecoua From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

Did QS offer any kind of IFE on any of their equipment?

User currently offlineLga777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Cody, I don't have email access at work so I will have to email you in a day or two when times permits. But I primarily worked in various stations at different functions including as a Station Manager, I also worked for a few months in the Operations Control Center in FLL.

Pecoua. No IFE, video or audio on any QS aircraft of flights.

ExitRowAisle, while this may sound tacky by today's standards, but one of the coolest thing about Northeastern was most of the aircraft retained the interior of the original operator and to a lesser extent the exterior as well, it made for a fleet with a lot of personality, even most of the registrations where unchanged and we had aircraft with German and French (AB3), Brazil (72S) and Denmark (D8S) registrations. The 3 DC-8-62's had similar but not identical paint schemes


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But the interiors where a different story, N8973U was pure UA including the colorful carpeted bukheads, OY-KTE (Nicknamed Katie) was pure SAS and featured a large fwd cargo door in the cabin, and N162CA (ToJo) was straight from JAL and not only did it have JAL's light green seats, but they seemed small and very upright looking, nothing like I had ever seen. I was lucky enough to fly on all three. We also had some limited DC-8-62 sub service from HA and also Rich International even operating former Braniff Calder N1805 in these colors

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but with Air Florida titles. I fondly remember flying this on this old girl one evening from PIE-FLL with a brown all leather interior. The 727's are to long a story for here but the 4 A-300's had a pure LH interior with 314 seats that seemed like one HUGE cabin with no bulkheads between Row 1 and the last row, reminded me of a large movie theater. And lastly if you pull up one of the first three photo's and click on Northeastern International Airways you can see lot's of great photo's of a very colorful fleet.
Enjoy, it was a Great Ride !

Cheers LGA777


User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

LGA777,

Well can you describe the interiors of Puff and Poof (pink and blue cloud airplanes?) Also, toward the end, was the entire fleet to be painted in that blue and silver striped scheme that was featured on the A300? I recall seeing a 727 in that paint job. Also, what type of equipment was QS planning on taking to Europe? I remember they were planning European routes.

Sorry for all the questions but I have always been fascinated with QS.


User currently offlineLga777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Cody, there were 5 727-100's, 4 -21's ex Pan Am and 1 -35 ex National/Pan Am. All 5 had Pan Am Interiors including hat racks.no overhead bins. Puff and Rosie (357QS and 356QS) where included. The 727-35 (N4617) still had the National sidewalls, you could close your eyes and pretend you where flying on National.

The only aircraft to receive the attractive blue scheme intended to standardize the look of the fleet had QS survived longer where the two A-300's that arrived in those colors (F-ODRD and F-ODRE) and also 727-21's N329QS and N355QS were repainted from their original unattractive dark green scheme into (in my opinion) much more attractive blue scheme sometime in 1984..

As far as the Europe thing I remember very little about it, I don't think the planning ever got far enough that an actual aircraft type was chosen. The A-300's where early model B1C's and did not have the range,although the DC-8-62's sure did.

LGA777


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