UPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 823 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4492 times:
This will be a great link if they can connect some of the larger US stations in the east with PHX. SDF (always my favorite to talk about) is one that comes to mind as not having service to PHX on HP. We do have service to PHX on WN, but it's not my favorite as US has alwasy been my airline of choice.
I guess we'll all sit back and wait to see where the flights and routes fall out.
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5349 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
Quoting John (Reply 9): US Airways' 757s are already EOW equipped. May not take much to get them ETOPS ready.
They will be certifying their own 757s though as they were in the process of planning Hawaii flights prior to this merger talk--plus in the event that the merger falls through they plan on still flying the routes. Hopefully they have some type of service enhancements.
FlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4100 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4): They both depend on that destination, as LAS is the number one vacation destination for Hawaiians.
Vegas actually has a large Hawaiian population and there are loads of Hawaiians who come here to vacation. That Omni DC-10 is chartered by The Boyd Group (Sam’s Town, Cal, Fremont, and others). Go to the Cal – that place is little Hawaii inside.
They also plan on flying to KOA and LIH. Will HP use 752s of their own or the 752s and 762s from US? I doubt they'll use the A332s. LIH is 752 worthy, but KOA can handle heavier aircraft. TZ has increased service to OGG and HNL from PHX on 753s, so maybe fares will drop when US (or HP?) enters the market.
If I recall correctly, HP flew daily PHX-HNL for years with the 747, along with some LAS-HNL flights that were flown at the end before stopping service to HNL altogether by Northwest DC-10's and flight crew that were wet-leased... The NGO route was sold to NWA, which still flies it today (from DTW and NRT). I worked for HP during this time and flew the PHX-HNL route a few times.... HP was also in the process of ETOPS certifying their 757's in 1992-93, but quit the process due to $ constraints before they were done..
WA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3509 times:
HP flew both PHX and LAS nonstop to HNL on 747s. Sometimes the HNL-LAS flight would continue on to PHX and vice versa. On a Vegas trip in 1990, I flew home on the big bird and it was the shortest 747 flight I ever had. For a short time, HP had 747 service to JFK from PHX. This was short lived since they only had three or four 747s and they had to get them them to HNL and NGO, so if there were delays in JFK, the HNL pax in PHX and LAS had their vacations delayed. The NGO from HNL service didn't do well either.
Mtnmanmakalu From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3437 times:
Quoting WA727 (Reply 17): The NGO from HNL service didn't do well either
This is true- when the Gulf War started, there was rumour of an HP 747 NGO-HNL flight with 1 pax on board.... Don't know if it is true, but would like to know from an old crew member... The NWA NGO route does well- always full when I have worked them..
Gift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2985 times:
Well, i dont know about this one. HP used to fly this route, and it didnt work, we'll see i guess.
Another thought, is maybe someone at HP has the inside scoop from WN. becuase if you recall, WN is in the process of ETOPS certifying(spelling?) their 73Gs. Hum? Maybe this is competition. If HP starts the route first, they would have the upper hand on WN. Talk about strategy. Would be nice to see WN/HP go head to head on some new HI routes. WN has to be ready to rid itself of TZ sooner or later.