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The End Of Zantop Airlines  
User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9802 times:

Well, unfortuneatly it finally happened. Zantop has closed its doors for good. I sure will miss the sound of the old Allison engines on the L-188's. Anyone here a former pilot/employee of Zantop, or have any good memories of them? Share them here.


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User currently offlineRG828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9737 times:
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A good friend of mine flew for them while on furlough from UA.

I can tell you though, he had no good memories at all!



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9736 times:
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A good friend of mine used to fly Electras for Zantop. I remember getting a tour through their hangars, and it was like going back in time. The workers all rode cool 1950s cruiser bicycles to get from one place to another. The bikes were covered in decades of grease and grime, but it preserved them surprisingly well.

The bathrooms in that hangar each had gigantic (~15 foot diameter) round sinks, where large numbers of factory workers would all wash up after a hard day's work.

It almost seemed a little eerie to be the only one wandering around in a place that was once so active and busy.

Several years ago, I was practicing maneuvers west of Ann Arbor at about 4000', when an Electra passed overhead, from right to left, about 1000' above me. It was leaving four thin, whispy trails of exhaust as it lumbered out into the afternoon sun.

I wish I had a camera then...it would have been a perfect shot to post in memory of the airline.



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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9688 times:

Although I never knew the company, the old Zantop hanger is still here in MSP just across the tower. Just a sign that old things still exist in a ever growing world!


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User currently offlineFRA2DTW From Germany, joined Feb 2004, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9664 times:

I spent some time in the Ypsilanti area in the 70's and remember their planes coming in overhead on their final into Willow Run. Quite a busy operation for a time. I guess they flew mostly parts for the automobile industry.

User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2224 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9497 times:
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Wow. That names a flash from the past. Sorry put I'd assumed they were L-o-n-g- gone. Obviously not. My memories are all about Burbank and the oil stains from DC4's. Loved the growl from one end of the rnwy to the other to get over the cemetery at the south end. Always an interesting fleet. Holding them (the company) together this long has to be a really interesting story.

Several times the topic of carriers that still have the names of the owners like Reeves has come up here but I never heard Zantop mentioned. Was that in fact, a family name?



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User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9493 times:

Zantop's History from their website.

C.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7464 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9397 times:

What is going to happen to the L188.

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9306 times:

Quoting M404 (Reply 5):
Several times the topic of carriers that still have the names of the owners like Reeves has come up here but I never heard Zantop mentioned. Was that in fact, a family name?

Sure was. Ronnie Zantop was my age, and I think we went to some of the same schools in the 80s back in suburban Detroit. Complicated situation because I went to schools based on curriculum, while most people went to ones based on where their house was.

In any case, being fairly close to Willw Run, we'd have their electras flying over low constantly. Loved the sound.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9294 times:

Having grown up in MI this is sure a blast from the past for me. Having went by Willow Run numerous times to just see the planes and all.


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User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9196 times:

Bennett123, only 2 or 3 L-188's were still airworthy. About 10-15 others are not; most don't have engines and have been parked for years. From what I have heard, they will be cut up for scrap on site.


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User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9191 times:

this IS sad news. we've had their L-188's into CLE not too long ago. i sure will miss the sounds of those allison's......


chris



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User currently offlineAtcrick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9154 times:
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I remember Zantop coming into Minot AFB, ND about 3 times a week back back in 1980/81. Apparently they had one the contract from (IIRC) some outfit called Trans America or something similar. I believe they also operated Electras.


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User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 9096 times:

Does anyone know why the shutdown of Zantop? Did the family just decide to retire, or get out of the business? Or, did it go bankrupt?

I wasn't able to find a news on the shutdown on 'google'.

C.



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 9087 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 7):
What is going to happen to the L188.

Air Atlantique is always on the lookout for parts or frames at Coventry.


User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 9064 times:

Basically a lack of business coupled with high mx costs finally put them out. The mechanics there said the L-188's were hangar queens, and they have rather poor fuel economy. With the downturn in the auto industry, there was just not enough business to keep them afloat. I am surprised they made it this far.


"It starts when you're always afraid; You step out of line, the man come and take you away" -Buffalo Springfield
User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 9050 times:

Quoting Atcrick (Reply 12):
I remember Zantop coming into Minot AFB, ND about 3 times a week back back in 1980/81. Apparently they had one the contract from (IIRC) some outfit called Trans America or something similar. I believe they also operated Electras.

That was a Logair flight into Minot. TransAmerica ran primarily Hercs for Logair vs L188s. The Hercs did the transcon portion of LogAir vs L188s doing regional routes. I spent 5 years at Wright-Patt doing LogAir in the early '80s. Got real familiar with Zantop L188s N290F, N289F, N285F, and N345HA amongst others. The L188s seemed to have power for days!! Never seemed to use much runway, of course none of our flights were much over 3 hours so I'll assume they weren't carrying a lot of gas.....

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