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Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?  
User currently offlineDCAflyboy From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 143 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3430 times:

With Air Wisconsin and Republic now onboard as commuter carriers for the new HP/US, couldn't that mean more Midwest cities or even possibly an RJ hub in the Midwest like CVG is for DL? Remember, when reports of the merger were first released they stated a larger presence in the Midwest along with service to Hawaii.

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User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Republic is not solidly on board. They were originally offering financing to help bail US out but with the merger, they have pulled out of the agreement. ZW still has there agreement in place and their 125 million is being used to help finance the agreement. I doubt there will be a midwest hub right away, because ZW is going to have hubs at PHL, opening in September, DCA opening a month later, and one other yet unnamed city, likely to be PIT.

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4612 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Air Wisky planes will primarily go to replace Trans States and Mesa flying initially in the Airways network. Of course post merger, there are 18 CRJ-900s (Mesa) that will leave the HP network for Airways.

As far as Republic, the option is still being weighed to sell the 170 fleet to them. There is also the option for the commuter slot sale/lease back option that was initially discussed. However, US/HP have chosen not to exercise any part of that agreement yet.

As far as a midwest build up. I doubt you'll see a hub, you will likely just see more connecting the dots between the US hubs and HP hubs. Places like OMA, OKC, etc will get flights to both sides of the country.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

As was stated on the day of the merger, US/HP will be increasing their presence in the Midwest. However, no mention of a midwest hub was announced and will more than likely never happen. US/HP has clearly stated where their footholds will be located (HUBS: CLT, PHL, PHX - Secondary Hubs: LAS, PIT - Focus Cities: FLL, DCA, LGA, BOS). So no IND, no MCI, no STL, no OKL, no MDW, no DEN, no DFW.. none of that).


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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

I wonder what "secondary hub" VS "focus city" will come to mmean in HelPUS nomenclature.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

It is going to be very interesting in 2-3 years from now, when all the dust settles, to see what happened with all of the RJ sluts that are out there right now trying to get their planes in with any network carrier that will take them. Between Republic, Chautaqua, Shuttle America (all three are one company!), Mesa, Air Wisconsin, Mesaba, etc., it will be fun to see how it all turns out and whether the consistency and performance of RJ operations for the legacy airlines involved (DL, NW, UA, US) suffers because of all the change.

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4612 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 4):
I wonder what "secondary hub" VS "focus city" will come to mmean in HelPUS nomenclature.

Don't read too much into secondary hub verus focus city. People in PIT got all excited when they heard one person refer to them as a secondary "hub"...US Airways immediately corrected back to focus city.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
So no IND, no MCI, no STL, no OKL, no MDW, no DEN, no DFW.. none of that).

OKL? Where's that? That's a new one.  Smile


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Sorry Ouboy79, I was just trying to think of airports in the midwest.. not quite as easy to recall as these on the east coast...


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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

OKLahoma City, of course.  Wink

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting DCAflyboy (Thread starter):
With Air Wisconsin and Republic now onboard as commuter carriers for the new HP/US, couldn't that mean more Midwest cities or even possibly an RJ hub in the Midwest like CVG is for DL?

These fleets are very transient,meaning, just because they currently are involved in operations centered on the Midwest US, doesn't mean necessarily that is where they will stay once the merger details are cemented...

The consolidation of the Mainline airlines will have a residual effect on these Feeder operations as well. I expect a quarter of the (national) fleet of RJs will be found redundant in about 12 to 18 months time. We are still dealing with issues of overcapacity, and that extends to Republic and Air Wisconsin as well.

These guys better figure out what their going to do with these fleets quick lest be caught with their pants down.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

As I said, even just a few years ago who would've thought:

-Shuttle America flying Saabs, now E170's for UAX
-Colgan flying for Continental Connection in IAH
-ACA dropping UAX flying, and becoming Independence Air and flying A319's
-Air Wisconsin flying for USAirways
-Mesa becoming a Delta Connection carrier

and the list goes on and on....
This industry changes by the day.


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